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[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by SAL

Just a heads up for everybody. Matt and I had big plans on driving to this years boxing HOF but our plans crashed and burned. Since the HOF date happened to be the same time as my wedding anniversary and I'm not going to New York now, my wife is going to make me pay dearly for planning a trip during this time with someone else and not including her.

D'Oh!!! The double whammy! Nothing's worse than being made to pay for something you didn't even get to do!

I have to say, as the party that scuttled our HOF travel plans, I feel mighty responsible partner. I think I will have to owe you a beer or two if you ever get out this way.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

D'Oh!!! The double whammy! Nothing's worse than being made to pay for something you didn't even get to do!

I have to say, as the party that scuttled our HOF travel plans, I feel mighty responsible partner. I think I will have to owe you a beer or two if you ever get out this way.

I'll see how my trip goes first and it might be a case I'm wanting to collect by the time I get back.

Also I might be paying for last years trip too. It was my year to pick and I used to always pick somewhere I thought she would enjoy but not last year. I chose to spend our anniversary last year fishing for four days on Texhoma.

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by SAL

I chose to spend our anniversary last year fishing for four days on Texhoma.

I may not know much, but I know that ain't good. I convinced Kathryn to spend our first night away from the kids in a few years at the casino for Clay-Bey's last hurrah a few years back. I am reminded of this often; and it ain't good.


I am getting nervous about this first match - I hope that I didn't change too many variables.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I may not know much, but I know that ain't good. I convinced Kathryn to spend our first night away from the kids in a few years at the casino for Clay-Bey's last hurrah a few years back. I am reminded of this often; and it ain't good.


I am getting nervous about this first match - I hope that I didn't change too many variables.

I know enough now to know that you're right.

[kenyan_cheena]

I was just wondering if anyone has done a calculation where you divide the points a fighter has scored for his team during a season by his rating. This would be a good way of determining how valuable each fighter is.

Example: a 10 rated fighter scores 40 points during a season.

40/10 = 4

Another 10 rated fighter scores 35 points.

35/10 = 3.5.

In this example, the first fighter would appear to be more valuable. But you would also have to take into account the ratings of his opponents, I guess.

Just something I was pondering.

[bear]

Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

I was just wondering if anyone has done a calculation where you divide the points a fighter has scored for his team during a season by his rating. This would be a good way of determining how valuable each fighter is.

Example: a 10 rated fighter scores 40 points during a season.

40/10 = 4

Another 10 rated fighter scores 35 points.

35/10 = 3.5.

In this example, the first fighter would appear to be more valuable. But you would also have to take into account the ratings of his opponents, I guess.

Just something I was pondering.

I'll give your idea some consideration.

What I do to determine value utilizes what I've come to call Bear's "eyeball test". It isn't any secret. I've mentioned beforeit in numerous posts. I look at the fighter's rating and figure that he's pulling his freight if he gives me three times his rating in points. It doesn't take into account career stages but it seems to be better than nothing.

Bear

[CONN CHRIS]

I've been doing that for a few seasons now to decide who I wanted to trade for. I would make my decisions based on the ratings formula and give up whatever draft picks were needed to get the deal done.

I have sort of beat that horse to death so now I need to work a different side of the street.

[bear]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I've been doing that for a few seasons now to decide who I wanted to trade for. I would make my decisions based on the ratings formula and give up whatever draft picks were needed to get the deal done.

I have sort of beat that horse to death so now I need to work a different side of the street.

It seems to have worked for you last season, Chris.

Bear

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I may not know much, but I know that ain't good. I convinced Kathryn to spend our first night away from the kids in a few years at the casino for Clay-Bey's last hurrah a few years back. I am reminded of this often; and it ain't good.


I am getting nervous about this first match - I hope that I didn't change too many variables.

Makes me so happy I am on to wife #2 the trophy wife and the boy is 17 because Kelly will be 36 and I can take her anywhere LOL. Plus now she likes boxing so a trip to Connecticut for a fight is perfectly acceptable to her.

Did I mention my wifey is perfect????

[lethal liberal]

[quote=SAL;2212108]May 29, 2007, Highland Park Boxing Arena, Indiana

Left Jab Inc. @ Fightin' WildKats

Bout Results:
(Left Jab Inc. listed first)

Fly- Luis Maldonado W KO 4 Hussein Hussein
(time of stoppage - 03:00,scorecards: 27-30, 28-29, 27-30)

Fly- Octavio Gomez L TKO 3 Vic Darchinyan
(time of stoppage - 02:26,scorecards: 19-19, 18-20, 19-19)

BW- Willie Smith L TKO 3 Veeraphol Sahaprom
(time of stoppage - 02:30,scorecards: 18-19, 19-18, 18-19)

BW- Owen Moran L UD 12 Elley Bennett
(scorecards: 116-112, 118-110, 116-112)

FW- Ronnie Clayton Draw(m) Johnny Famechon
(scorecards: 115-115, 116-114, 115-115)

FW- Terry McGovern L KO 8 Jeff Fenech
(time of stoppage - 03:00,scorecards: 63-69, 65-68, 63-69)

LW- Orzubek Nazarov L UD 12 Sean O'Grady
(scorecards: 109-115, 109-116, 109-115)

LW- Miguel Callist L TKO 9 Jesse James Leija
(time of stoppage - 00:17,scorecards: 74-79 on all three)

WW- Joey Limas L KO 9 Jack Carroll
(time of stoppage - 02:38, scorecards: 71-80, 71-80, 71-80)

WW- David Kamau Draw 12 Julian Holland
(scorecards: 113-113, 113-113, 113-113)

MW- Michael Nunn L MD 12 Ken Overlin (Michael Nunn advances to pre-prime)
(scorecards: 111-116, 115-115, 111-116)

MW- Brent Cooper L TKO 5 Lester Ellis
(time of stoppage - 02:43,scorecards: 34-40 on all three)

LHW- Glencoffe Johnson W TKO 8 Eddie Owens
(time of stoppage - 02:58,scorecards: 68-65, 69-64, 68-65)

LHW- Michael Moorer W KO 5 Tony Mundine
(time of stoppage - 00:53,scorecards: 38-38 on all three)

HW- Earnie Shavers W TKO 2 Denver Ed Smith
(time of stoppage - 02:27,scorecards: 10-8 on all three)

HW- Tony Tucker W KO 6 Max Baer
(time of stoppage - 03:00,scorecards: 47-47, 48-46, 47-47)

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Halftime Score:
Left Jab Inc. 5-9-2 (5) = 17
Fightin' WildKats 9-5-2 (6) = 26
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Fly- Octavio Gomez W SD 12 Hussein Hussein
(scorecards: 115-112, 112-116, 115-112)

Fly- Luis Maldonado L TKO 6 Vic Darchinyan
(time of stoppage - 02:58,scorecards: 44-50 on all three)

BW- Willie Smith L MD 12 Elley Bennett
(scorecards: 114-115, 115-115, 114-115)

BW- Owen Moran L DQ 11 Veeraphol Sahaprom
(scorecards: 94-94, 94-95, 94-94)

FW- Ronnie Clayton L KO 6 Jeff Fenech
(time of stoppage - 02:40,scorecards: 44-50 on all three)

FW- Terry McGovern W TKO 11 Johnny Famechon
(time of stoppage - 02:54,scorecards: 99-88, 99-89, 99-88)

LW- Miguel Callist L TKO 9 Sean O'Grady
(time of stoppage - 02:48,scorecards: 71-78, 70-80, 71-78)

LW- Orzubek Nazarov W TKO 8 Jesse James Leija
(time of stoppage - 01:59,scorecards: 69-62, 68-65, 69-63)

WW- David Kamau L TKO 12 Jack Carroll
(time of stoppage - 02:55,scorecards: 100-106 on all three)

WW- Joey Limas L UD 12 Julian Holland
(scorecards: 118-107, 118-108, 118-107)

MW- Brent Cooper L UD 12 Ken Overlin
(scorecards: 108-120, 111-118, 109-120)

MW- Michael Nunn W UD 12 Lester Ellis
(scorecards: 116-109, 114-111, 116-109)

LHW- Glencoffe Johnson W UD 12 Tony Mundine
(scorecards: 116-111, 115-114, 116-111)

LHW- Michael Moorer W TKO 4 Eddie Owens
(time of stoppage - 02:43,scorecards: 28-29, 28-29, 27-29)

HW- Earnie Shavers L KO 1 Max Baer
(time of stoppage - 02:03)

HW- Tony Tucker W KO 8 Denver Ed Smith
(time of stoppage - 01:50,scorecards: 67-65, 68-66, 67-65)

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Final Score:
Left Jab Inc. 12-18-2 (9) (DQ-1) = 34
Fightin' WildKats 18-12-2 (11) = 49


Well...looks like the more I change..the more things stay the same. The locals are screaming for the head of the owner of Left Jab..oops..thats me!! Seriously,Congrats to TC..I welcomed you in style my friend. I just hope this week isnt an indication of the rest of the season...just know this team is better than last seasons...isnt it??? LOL. Take care guys.

[Lee]

Originally Posted by SAL

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Final Score:
420th Street Gym 19-12-1 (9) = 48
Chilton Roughnecks 12-19-1 (7) = 32
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Sorry Lee but the streak lives on.
I'm getting to the point where I almost hate to post results for the Roughnecks.

It's all good, I am building for the future and sticking with these guys......We will come around........sometime

[Claybor]

I was just wondering if anyone has done a calculation where you divide the points a fighter has scored for his team during a season by his rating. This would be a good way of determining how valuable each fighter is.

Example: a 10 rated fighter scores 40 points during a season.

40/10 = 4

Another 10 rated fighter scores 35 points.

35/10 = 3.5.

In this example, the first fighter would appear to be more valuable. But you would also have to take into account the ratings of his opponents, I guess.

Just something I was pondering.

I think this is a pretty good way to judge the value of a fighter.

[bear]

Don't know what this might mean in the grand scheme of things, but
looking at ways to judge a fighter, I just compiled points per match fought for the Unstable:

(9)Oscar Bonavena 17-22-2 (14) *pre-prime produced 50 points in 41 = 1.22
(7)Elmer Ray 36-27-2 (24) *PRIME produced 98 points in 65 = 1.51
LHW
(7)Jimmy Adamick 43-20-1 (33) *PRIME produced 120 in 64 = 1.875
(13)Archie Moore 39-6-0 (37) *PRIME produced 115 in 45 = 2.55
MW
(6)Eduardo Lausse 33-29-0 (25) *PRIME produced 91 in 62 = 1.47
(1)John LoCicero 3-39-0 (1) *PRIME produced 7 in 43 = 0.163
(7)Rocky Graziano 0-0-0 (0) *beginning
WW
(9)Pipino Cuevas 44-18-4 (37) *PRIME produced 129 in 66 = 1.95
(5)Dave Green 39-46-3 (24) *PRIME produced 105 in 88 = 1.19
(7)Kid Azteca 9-13-0 (3) *pre-prime produced 21 in 20 = 1.05
LW
(4)Andy Ganigan 17-24-1 (12) *pre-prime produced 47 in 42 = 1.12
(5)Fabian Tejeda 43-36-0 (27) *PRIME produced 113 in 79 = 1.43
FW
(4)Carmelo Negron 15-32-0 (10) *pre-prime produced 40 in 47 = 0.85
(6)Enrique Sanchez 38-26-0 (25) *PRIME produced 101 in 64 = 1.58
BW
(9)Jose Becerra 56-14-2 (37) *PRIME produced 151 in 72 = 2.10
(5)German Ohm 12-29-2 (6) *pre-prime produced 30 in 43 = 0.70
Fly
(3)Chartchai Chionoi 28-49-2 (16) *PRIME produced 74 in 79 = 0.94
(12)Ricardo Lopez 0-0-0 (0) *beginning

Archie Moore and Jose Becerra are the only two guys on the team averaging over 2 points per bout fought on their careers. Becerra has starred for me since day one, when, as an expansion club I was trounced for eight straight weeks.

Bear

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by Tommysixfingers

I just realized that the 3rd judge in Corrie Sanders both fights must be his dad, a close friend or someone that Corrie has incriminating photos of.

I just looked at the bout logs and it was the same guy Shafeaq Rashada. I demand that the UTBA look into the connection between Shafeaq Rashada and Corrie Sanders. Also, that Shafeaq Rashada be barred from judging again due to his obvious corruption.

[Tommysixfingers]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

I just looked at the bout logs and it was the same guy Shafeaq Rashada. I demand that the UTBA look into the connection between Shafeaq Rashada and Corrie Sanders. Also, that Shafeaq Rashada be barred from judging again due to his obvious corruption.

What can I say? Corrie obviously has a photo of Rashada "involved" with a german sheperd, two bald midget wrestlers and a pool cue

[Romdawg88]

Ha, that sounds like a good time. If I was you Tommy I would ask SAL to assign Rashada to all of Corrie's matches.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

Ha, that sounds like a good time. If I was you Tommy I would ask SAL to assign Rashada to all of Corrie's matches.

As of right now..........he is and always will be.
The same three judges and referee work all of the fights held in the UTBA. They are listed in the rules of the UTBA. I can't remember off of the top of my head who they are but I do know the referee is Rudy Battle.

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by SAL

As of right now..........he is and always will be.
The same three judges and referee work all of the fights held in the UTBA. They are listed in the rules of the UTBA. I can't remember off of the top of my head who they are but I do know the referee is Rudy Battle.

Well, in that case Corrie Sanders is going to be a tough man to take a decision off of.

[SAL]

Ok guys. I know you've been waiting for more results from week one. The big reason for going to a 2 week schedule for one game week is my daughter's softball tournament team on the weekends this summer. I just finished up a long weekend about 2 hours ago (26 hours at the ball park in two days) which has caused the delay in week 1 so far but I'm going to start work on running some matches right now late into the night. I may not get the results posted until tomorrow but week 1 should end by Wednesday night before I'm off on my little vacation.

[SAL]

June 3, 2007 - Fenway Park, Boston, MA

Hebron Haymakers @ Juggernaut

Bout Results:
(Hebron Haymakers listed first)

Fly- Johnny McCluskey W KO 9 Irene Pacheco
(Scorecards: 75-77, 75-77, 77-75)

Fly- Pitchit Siriwat L UD 12 Roberto Vasquez
(Scorecards: 108-115, 108-115, 110-115)

BW- (CH)Alfonso Zamora W KO 1 Tommy Kelly
CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT (bout stopped at 02:53)

BW- Rodolfo Martinez W KO 4 Miguel Martinez
(Scorecards: 29-28, 29-28, 30-28)

FW- Antonio Esparragoza L UD 12 Diego Morales
(Scorecards: 111-116, 111-116, 113-114)

FW- Eddie Santry L KO 9 Wilfredo Gomez
(Scorecards: 74-76, 74-76, 75-75)

LW- Rodolfo Gonzalez W TKO 8 Howard Davis Jr
(Scorecards: 68-63, 68-63, 69-63)

LW- Claude Noel L UD 12 Greg Haugen
(Scorecards: 112-115, 112-115, 113-116)

WW- Marlon Starling W UD 12 Young Jack Thompson
(Scorecards: 116-113, 116-113, 116-115)

WW- Andrew Lewis W KO 3 Randy Shields
(Scorecards: 18-20 all three cards)

MW- Ilyas Ahmed L TKO 5 Tony Zale
(Scorecards: 36-38 all three cards)

MW- John Mugabi W KO 4 Rito Ruvalcaba
(Scorecards: 29-26, 29-26, 30-26)

LHW- John Conteh W TKO 6 Larry Marks
(Scorecards: 47-46, 47-47, 48-46)

LHW- David Telesco L TKO 7 Paul Berlenbach
(Scorecards: 51-60, 51-60, 53-58)

HW- Max Schmeling W KO 6 Gerry Cooney
(Scorecards: 49-45, 50-45, 50-45)

HW- Paolino Uzcudun L TKO 8 Ken Norton
(Scorecards: 67-65, 67-65, 67-66)

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Halftime Score:
Hebron Haymakers 9-7-0 (8) = 26
Juggernaut 7-9-0 (4) = 18
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Fly- Pitchit Siriwat W UD 12 Irene Pacheco
(Scorecards: 117-112, 117-112, 116-113)

Fly- Johnny McCluskey L KO 12 Roberto Vasquez
(Scorecards: 100-106, 100-106, 101-107)

BW- (CH) Alfonso Zamora W KO 2 Miguel Martinez
CHAMPIONSHIP BOUT (Scorecards: 10-9 all three cards)

BW- Rodolfo Martinez W KO 9 Tommy Kelly
(Scorecards: 75-77, 75-77, 77-77)

FW- Antonio Esparragoza L UD 12 Wilfredo Gomez
(Scorecards: 109-117, 109-117, 110-117)

FW- Eddie Santry L KO 8 Diego Morales
(Scorecards: 65-66, 65-66, 66-65)

LW- Claude Noel L UD 12 Howard Davis Jr
(Scorecards: 112-117, 112-117, 113-118)

LW- Rodolfo Gonzalez L MD 12 Greg Haugen
(Scorecards: 111-111, 111-112, 110-112)

WW- Andrew Lewis W TKO 11 Young Jack Thompson
(Scorecards: 97-92, 97-92, 99-90)

WW- Marlon Starling W KO 9 Randy Shields
(Scorecards: 77-75, 77-75, 76-76)

MW- Ilyas Ahmed L UD 12 Rito Ruvalcaba
(Scorecards: 108-117, 108-116, 108-116)

MW- John Mugabi W TKO 2 Tony Zale
(Scorecards: 10-8 all three cards)

LHW- John Conteh W UD 12 Paul Berlenbach
(Scorecards: 116-111, 116-111, 117-110)

LHW- David Telesco W KO 10 Larry Marks
(Scorecards: 87-84 all three cards)

HW- Paolino Uzcudun W SD 12 Gerry Cooney
(Scorecards: 114-113, 114-113, 112-117)

HW- Max Schmeling W UD 12 Ken Norton
(Scorecards: 116-113, 116-113, 120-111)

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Final Score:
Hebron Haymakers 19-13-0 (14) = 52
Juggernaut 13-19-0 (6) = 32
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