Utba

[Brooks TVB]

UTBA Draft

Ideal Draft:
HW Ernie Terrell 9
HW Tommy Morrison 6
LHW Jeff Lacy 8
LHW Tony Mundine 4
MW Fernando Vargas 7
MW Jesse Brinkley 5
WW Aissa Hashas 8
WW Ramon Campas 8
LW Paul Spadafora 7
LW Manny Pacquiao 11
FW Wayne McCullough 6
FW Johnny Jamito 5
BW Roger Galicia 4
BW Speedy Dado 8
FLY Daniel Reyes 7 (SW)
FLY Carlos Salazar 6
Total 105 points

As you can see there are some good fighters and some bums in there. I selected one fighter over a 10 rating and spread the points out the rest of the way.

[CONN CHRIS]

I have been kind of wrapped up in other things of late. Was I supposed to have submitted a draft roster to Scot already? I assume that we are using whatever is the most recent stock TBCB2.5 DB.

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I have been kind of wrapped up in other things of late. Was I supposed to have submitted a draft roster to Scot already? I assume that we are using whatever is the most recent stock TBCB2.5 DB.

No, SAL hasn't said anything about sending in draft roster to him yet.

[SAL]

Just sent out a few more invites to join the UTBA II as we are still one team short. As soon as we get the final team.......we'll be just a couple of days away from sending in our rosters.

I hope to post the list of non-draftee's by tomorrow evening, maybe tonight, we'll see how it goes.

It looks like we will be staying with the two conferences. Does anybody have a problem with going to a 14 week season. That will give all teams a chance to face every team in their own conference once and still face your divisional foes twice.
If this is OK with all............I'll need to tweak the aging parameters for the fighters a little.

I plan on setting up the aging where a fighter will advance from beginner to pre-prime somewhere around the halfway point of their first season and give all fighters a chance to fight at PRIME 4 to 6 seasons. If a fighter sticks around in the league for 6 or more seasons........he'll have somewhere between 168 - 250+ fights on his record.

[Romultiltus]

A 14-week season is ok by me. For continuity sake with respect to keeping stats, I hope this will not change, even if the league's size changes (either up or down). In UTBA-I, a lot of the stats/records from Season 1 were wiped out quickly because we went from a 7-week to a 10-week season.

[Romdawg88]

I'm cool with a 14 week schedule.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by Romultiltus

A 14-week season is ok by me. For continuity sake with respect to keeping stats, I hope this will not change, even if the league's size changes (either up or down). In UTBA-I, a lot of the stats/records from Season 1 were wiped out quickly because we went from a 7-week to a 10-week season.

Agreed............If we go to a 14 week schedule, we'll stay that way no matter how many teams we lose over the course of time. I don't plan on gaining any extras, 24 teams is enough.

[kenyan_cheena]

Might be a good idea to post a poll about the league structure.

With 24 teams in two conferences, we can do two things:

* Have three divisions of four teams and play a fourteen week schedule (6 in division, 8 out of division). Playoffs could be three division champs and a wildcard.

* Have two divisions of six teams and play a sixteen week schedule (10 in division, 6 out of division). Playoffs could be either two division champs or two division champs and two wildcards, which could both be from the one division.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

Might be a good idea to post a poll about the league structure.

Well..........the poll about conference and divisions won't be over for 2 1/2 days......so nothing is official yet. The poll asked if we want to do away with the conferences and have divisions instead or keep the league formatted the way it was. I was assuming that if the vote tallied to stay with the Gold/Silver conferences, all would remain as it used to be.

I'd rather see how much discussion we get on restructuring the 2 conferences before posting a poll.

[Romultiltus]

I prefer the 2 Conference, 3 Division per Conference and 1 Wildcard model that was used in UTBA-I.

The UTBA should not turn into the NHL where almost everyone makes the playoffs. 4 teams per conference is my vote.

Keep in mind that the more teams that make the playoffs, the number fights by playoff bound fighters increases - thereby potentially shortening his career.

Of course there will probably be some playoff deserving teams left out, but that just sparks more fuel to build a better team.

As for the length of a season, I don't think that it should be any longer than 12 weeks. Depending on how Scot (SAL) plans on running each league week, with 24 teams, its quite time consuming to run and post 12 matches in a single real-time week. At 2 real-time weeks per 1 league week, a single regular season will run 24 weeks (6 months). Add in the time for the initial draft, playoffs, and a well deserved off-season rest for Scot (SAL)

A final point is that keeping the stats for the league is very time consuming and getting it all updated in a single real-life week is tough.

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by Romultiltus

I prefer the 2 Conference, 3 Division per Conference and 1 Wildcard model that was used in UTBA-I.

The UTBA should not turn into the NHL where almost everyone makes the playoffs. 4 teams per conference is my vote.

Keep in mind that the more teams that make the playoffs, the number fights by playoff bound fighters increases - thereby potentially shortening his career.

Of course there will probably be some playoff deserving teams left out, but that just sparks more fuel to build a better team.

As for the length of a season, I don't think that it should be any longer than 12 weeks. Depending on how Scot (SAL) plans on running each league week, with 24 teams, its quite time consuming to run and post 12 matches in a single real-time week. At 2 real-time weeks per 1 league week, a single regular season will run 24 weeks (6 months). Add in the time for the initial draft, playoffs, and a well deserved off-season rest for Scot (SAL)

A final point is that keeping the stats for the league is very time consuming and getting it all updated in a single real-life week is tough.

I agree with everything said here.

[SAL]

Good news............the league is now full, I'm strictly the commish with no team.

Tosti has changed his mind and our old friend Shane is back with his Boxing Kangaroos.

I'll submit the can't draft list later tonight and post an announcement here in the thread and send out PMs saying it is time to submit your rosters.

Also........I agree 100% with Dave's post. A 10 week schedule is plenty. I'd like the season to stay at 10 matches per season. Would make life easier for Dave and I.

[SAL]

A note on the fighters when selecting them for the roster. If a fighter is rated in more than one weight class.....say CW and HW, we will use his official rating in the HW class even though his CW rating is higher after I combine all the weightclasses.

[Romultiltus]

Originally Posted by SAL

Good news............the league is now full, I'm strictly the commish with no team.

Too bad you don't have a team Scot. But at least now you can make commissioner decisions without the possibility of getting flak for being biased to yourself and your team.

[SAL]

There has been some debate going on in one of the polls about the starting rosters.

Lets call the UTBA II a new league except most owners will have the advantage of having a background of the fighters performance over 4 1/2 seasons in the UTBA.

I made some bad choices of who (overall ratings of fighters) to add in the draft pool in the UTBA and learned from it. So here is my suggestion for setting up your initial roster for the UTBA II.

• The starting cap will be 100 points. It will move to 105 at mid-point of season 1.
  
• You will be allowed only 1 fighter rated 10, only 1 fighter rated 9 and 2 fighters rated 8. You will not be allowed to have any fighter on your initial roster rated less than a 3. You can fill in the rest of your roster with 3 to 7 rated fighters however you see fit to total the 100.
  
• Rosters will be submitted to me by PM by all teams. If there are any duplicate choices of fighters on two or more rosters, I'll notify the concerned owners informing them they need to make corrections to their roster.
  
• Past owners will not have any special privileges on fighters they may have had on a roster in the UTBA. All fighters in the 2.5 db will fair game to all owners.

The reason for the overall rating guideline is I'm going to add fighters to the draft pool this time around on a pro-rated basis of their overall rating. This is a new start so to speak, so forget the past and those 11 rated fighters. The 11+ fighters will be added to the draft pool on a pro-rated basis.
If every team was allowed one 11 rated fighter to start with, we would not see another one added to the draft pool for the next 13-15 seasons.

[SAL]

Update on rule change poll #3.

The vote now stands at 9 to 7 to do away with the conference structure of the league and have just divisions.

8 owners still have not voted on this one and it will close soon.

[Romultiltus]

Originally Posted by SAL

There has been some debate going on in one of the polls about the starting rosters.

Lets call the UTBA II a new league except most owners will have the advantage of having a background of the fighters performance over 4 1/2 seasons in the UTBA.

I made some bad choices of who (overall ratings of fighters) to add in the draft pool in the UTBA and learned from it. So here is my suggestion for setting up your initial roster for the UTBA II.

• The starting cap will be 100 points. It will move to 105 at mid-point of season 1.
• You will be allowed only 1 fighter rated 10, only 1 fighter rated 9 and 2 fighters rated 8. You will not be allowed to have any fighter on your initial roster rated less than a 3. You can fill in the rest of your roster with 3 to 7 rated fighters however you see fit to total the 100.
• Rosters will be submitted to me by PM by all teams. If there are any duplicate choices of fighters on two or more rosters, I'll notify the concerned owners informing them they need to make corrections to their roster.
• Past owners will not have any special privileges on fighters they may have had on a roster in the UTBA. All fighters in the 2.5 db will fair game to all owners.

The reason for the overall rating guideline is I'm going to add fighters to the draft pool this time around on a pro-rated basis of their overall rating. This is a new start so to speak, so forget the past and those 11 rated fighters. The 11+ fighters will be added to the draft pool on a pro-rated basis.
If every team was allowed one 11 rated fighter to start with, we would not see another one added to the draft pool for the next 13-15 seasons.

Great news Scot.

Now Romy has a chance to pickup Paul Pender and return to his lost days of glory...

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by Romultiltus

Great news Scot.

Now Romy has a chance to pickup Paul Pender and return to his lost days of glory...

You're a bastard, thats really low. Pender still makes me angry. I like the changes to the roster system as it makes putting together my team alot easier as I was having a tough time deciding on my final keeper.

EDIT:

The starting cap will be 100 points. It will move to 105 at mid-point of season 1.

This the one part of what you posted that I disagree with. I think the cap should start at 100 throughout the whole first season and then move up to 105 during the offseason.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

I like the changes to the roster system as it makes putting together my team alot easier as I was having a tough time deciding on my final keeper.

Just trying to find some middle ground here.

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

EDIT:

This the one part of what you posted that I disagree with. I think the cap should start at 100 throughout the whole first season and then move up to 105 during the offseason.

Since you don't like this part........the Muckboys must roster both Pender and Cintron on their initial roster.

Really, the reason behind the cap change is I'll be introducing the draft pool at the midway point and some teams might want to improve their team and make a push for the playoffs instead of waiting till the draft after season 1 to better their team.

[IceTea]

Do I get to keep (3) from my roster?

MJ