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[SAL]

moved..........

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by SAL

• Hebron Haymakers (1 duplicate so far....)

I'll bet it's one of Matt's.

[bear]

I'm assuming that we won't be informed of the duplicate claims until the remaining 9 rosters are submitted. With seven dupe's so far I'm trying to guess on who they are and make alterante plans. I'll be away from my PC for most of tomorrow and wed. So I'm doing my spade work now.

Bear

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

I'll bet it's one of Matt's.

booooo!!!

Like I have any guys worth swiping. I traded them all, which accounts for most of my 9 duplicates..

[SAL]

Roster duplicates..................

All fighters that have been duplicated on one or more rosters will be listed by fighter name and who picked them when all rosters have been submitted. The list will be posted on this thread.

This will allow all owners a chance to make some deals (trades) if they really want a fighter on their roster. No faster than this process is going, I don't think I'll have any trouble keeping up with any trading some owners might want to do.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by mh2365

9 and 7 dups ... almost like they are trying to do it.

Since I have no idea what your roster looks like, it would be pretty tough to do this on purpose, dontcha think?

It's more like - we submitted rosters after you guys did, so naturally there will be more duplicates.

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

Since I have no idea what your roster looks like, it would be pretty tough to do this on purpose, dontcha think?

It's more like - we submitted rosters after you guys did, so naturally there will be more duplicates.

Actually it would be quite easy ... I would imagine if I tried I could have posted a roster with 7-10 dupes on it.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Actually it would be quite easy ... I would imagine if I tried I could have posted a roster with 7-10 dupes on it.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I read that all fighters were available to all owners. I just picked the guys I wanted - most of them resided on my team at one point or another. Others didn't. I figured everyone else was doing the same thing.

Did I misread the rules?

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought I read that all fighters were available to all owners. I just picked the guys I wanted - most of them resided on my team at one point or another. Others didn't. I figured everyone else was doing the same thing.

Did I misread the rules?

No, you have the rules dead on but what I think Mike is getting at that it won't be real hard to look over the other team and figure out who the owners want to keep. All it takes is some common sense and I know you have plenty of that. Heck, I'm pretty damn certain one of those doubles is a guy I have on my roster and when I picked him I figured there was a good chance that you would as well.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

No, you have the rules dead on but what I think Mike is getting at that it won't be real hard to look over the other team and figure out who the owners want to keep. All it takes is some common sense and I know you have plenty of that. Heck, I'm pretty damn certain one of those doubles is a guy I have on my roster and when I picked him I figured there was a good chance that you would as well.

Wait a sec. No one gets to keep anyone. This is a whole new league. No keepers. I'm just picking the guys I want, most of whom, coincidentally, were original members of the Beavers.

I'd of course wish to have Walker back, but the rules forbid me to do so. Since this is not possible, I'm hoping to get as many of my original favs as possible. And yeah, I picked 3-4 guys who never played on my team. But what's wrong with that? Isn't everyone else doing the same thing?

The accusation that I'm setting out to create a situation where there are duplicates is really off base. I'm just picking the guys I want and hope to get as many as possible. If others have a problem with that, then perhaps we should rethink the rules.

[mh2365]

Oops ... sorry Matt ... seems you are reading too much into my posts ... it is a strategy that I thought about using and in fact did on one fighter. You are well within the rules to pick all 16 of your fighters off of other rosters. I wasn't implying that you were doing anything wrong. I was just stating that it would have been very easy to end up with 7-10 dupes.

This is the exact reason why there should have been 2-3 keepers ....

[bear]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

No, you have the rules dead on but what I think Mike is getting at that it won't be real hard to look over the other team and figure out who the owners want to keep. All it takes is some common sense and I know you have plenty of that. Heck, I'm pretty damn certain one of those doubles is a guy I have on my roster and when I picked him I figured there was a good chance that you would as well.

Matt and I both had successful clubs in the past league. Like him I opted to keep some guys (in my case six) whose performanceI was familiar with. Others were familiar with their performances and seem to have wanted them too. I'm assuming that most of my dupes are from my old squad. It's kind of flattering.

Bear

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Oops ... sorry Matt ... seems you are reading too much into my posts ... it is a strategy that I thought about using and in fact did on one fighter. You are well within the rules to pick all 16 of your fighters off of other rosters. I wasn't implying that you were doing anything wrong. I was just stating that it would have been very easy to end up with 7-10 dupes.

This is the exact reason why there should have been 2-3 keepers ....

There is only one guy I picked knowing full well he would be picked by at least one other owner...



Just kidding.

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

There is only one guy I picked knowing full well he would be picked by at least one other owner...



Just kidding.

Nothing would surprise me ... like I said I almost went the same route and just picked fighters I wanted out of the league. Once again the decision not to have 2-3 keepers was an out and out mistake and will end up causing hard feelings.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by mh2365

This is the exact reason why there should have been 2-3 keepers ....

New league.........Fresh start......... of an old league once run here on these forums.

So if it is new, how can there be any keepers when there is nothing to keep.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Nothing would surprise me ... like I said I almost went the same route and just picked fighters I wanted out of the league. Once again the decision not to have 2-3 keepers was an out and out mistake and will end up causing hard feelings.

I can see it both ways, especially for the guys who had no one they really wanted to keep and fighters they never had a chance to own.

Maybe if we all approached the new league in the spirit of a true start over, then no one would have hard feelings. After all, we all have equal opportunity to own any fighter (not named Mickey Walker ). We can negotiate to ensure we get our absolute favorites.

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by SAL

New league.........Fresh start......... of an old league once run here on these forums.

So if it is new, how can there be any keepers when there is nothing to keep.

6 of one, half a dozen of another ... we all know it's not a new league, it's just a restart of an abandoned league.

[Romultiltus]

After looking a little closer at my proposed roster, I realize that my team will really stink - so I'm almost happy that I have 4 duplicates listed so far. With a few more rosters left to go, I'm hoping the number will rise...

[mh2365]

I'm not sure how mine will be. I went decidingly hispanic this time. Whenever I was debating between two fighters I picked the hispanic.

It will also depend on who the other duplicate I have is ... I know who one is for sure.

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by bigMatt

Wait a sec. No one gets to keep anyone. This is a whole new league. No keepers. I'm just picking the guys I want, most of whom, coincidentally, were original members of the Beavers.

I'd of course wish to have Walker back, but the rules forbid me to do so. Since this is not possible, I'm hoping to get as many of my original favs as possible. And yeah, I picked 3-4 guys who never played on my team. But what's wrong with that? Isn't everyone else doing the same thing?

The accusation that I'm setting out to create a situation where there are duplicates is really off base. I'm just picking the guys I want and hope to get as many as possible. If others have a problem with that, then perhaps we should rethink the rules.

No, we don't have any official keepers but I'm sure pretty much all the owners have guys on their old rosters that they want to get on their new teams. I didn't even bother to pick guys on other rosters since I figured that would only increase the chance of doubles. I did pick one guy who spent a large amount of time on your team until I acquired him at the start of last season. Also, I wasn't accusing you of anything just following up on Mike's point that picking a team with a large amount of doubles would be very easy if someone wanted to. I don't think you did it on purpose nor did I ever think that.

After looking a little closer at my proposed roster, I realize that my team will really stink - so I'm almost happy that I have 4 duplicates listed so far. With a few more rosters left to go, I'm hoping the number will rise...

Excellent news, maybe that number not raise at all. All I know about my new team is that it won't be challenging the KO record anytime soon.