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[Claybor]

My team is built solely on KO guys so I would be hurt as much as anyone. No, I was not suggesting an immediate change, but perhaps say in a 3 to 5 year period so teams could prepare for it. I know it's not realy doable at this point, perhaps the next time around. :]

[Romdawg88]

Well it was KC's idea so he gets the credit for coming up with it. However, I'm putting in a vote for the switch cause otherwise there's no real reason to have conferences if we're not going to have conference championships.

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by Claybor

My team is built solely on KO guys so I would be hurt as much as anyone. No, I was not suggesting an immediate change, but perhaps say in a 3 to 5 year period so teams could prepare for it. I know it's not realy doable at this point, perhaps the next time around. :]

An in-between option might be to award the extra points for stoppage wins and unanimous decisions. Then, good defense can be somewhat on a par with good power. Any split or mixed decisions would get the lower point value.

[bigMatt]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

An in-between option might be to award the extra points for stoppage wins and unanimous decisions. Then, good defense can be somewhat on a par with good power. Any split or mixed decisions would get the lower point value.

I like that idea. very much.

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

An in-between option might be to award the extra points for stoppage wins and unanimous decisions. Then, good defense can be somewhat on a par with good power. Any split or mixed decisions would get the lower point value.

I don't have any problems with that idea.

[Romultiltus]

I think that the scoring system should be left alone as is. Fighters should be rewarded for a spectacular victory (ala - stoppage). Sure slick fighters may not get awarded as many points, but they do serve as an equalizer. Fighters with a good defense and little power tend to have their fights go the distance, thereby negating the power of the sluggers. IceTea has proved that a dominant team can be assembled w/o sluggers and still compete with the other teams.

Just look at the UTBA power rankings... IceTea was at or near the top of the Points Scored catagory, while was far and away the leader in the Points Allowed catagory. I don't see how a change in the system will do anything but overcomplicate things.

Also, (using IceTeaBoxing as an example) slick defensive fighters are not at a serious disadvantage qualifying for the EOY Tournaments. IceTea sent a league leading 12 fighters to the tournaments while slugging teams such as the Muckboys and Tomato City only sent 9 and 7 fighters respectively.

Basically "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" should apply here. I vote for no change but will not complain if the majority of managers want a change.

[CONN CHRIS]

I side with Dave. It ain't broke, but whatever the majority wants is fine by me.

[bigMatt]

It's difficult imagining that anyone is objective post-draft. If I'd just nabbed a tremendous power punching LW in the draft, I wouldn't want the rules changed either. That said, it does seem unfair to change any rules after the draft. If there is anything we do, it should be pre-draft, maybe next season.

Personally, I only pick the bigger hitter if all else is equal. After all, Carmen Basilio was my second best fighter for 2 seasons and he is far from a power puncher. Both Eddie Cotton and Bernard Taylor have thus far proven to be good value contributors and neither are thunder packers.

[Romdawg88]

I truthfully don't care either way. I like our scoring system I think it works just fine and doesn't need to be changed but if the rest of the league feels some minor tweaks needed to be added thats cool.

[Claybor]

I shouldnt have said anything, but there is a definate trend towards most teams picking the big power guys, so many with low power wont see much use. I definatley dont think any change should be made for at least a few seasons, if at all.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by Claybor

I shouldnt have said anything, but there is a definate trend towards most teams picking the big power guys, so many with low power wont see much use. I definatley dont think any change should be made for at least a few seasons, if at all.

I'm glad you said something and this is the time to do so. I feel every manager here has an equal voice and if you would like to see something added or changed in league operations, please voice your opinion.
I like where you're going with this and Romy can attest to it, I built my original roster on control factors, defense and punches landed and dis-regarded the hitting power. So I guess what I'm saying is, I'm going against the trend for power.
I'm for amending the current point system and I think most here are willing too. We just need to figure out what we want to change and how. Whatever the majority wants is what we'll do.

[kenyan_cheena]

Originally Posted by SAL

This one is a biggie. Some guys will have no problem with it but I think others may.

Items in blue are what I changed or added.



When we get ready to draft after the next season, I can set up a schedule.
Example:
3:00 - 3:05 pm CST - Oakland Assassins
3:05 - 3:10 pm CST - McCune Mitt Slingers
3:10 - 3:15 pm CST - Left Jab Inc
3:15 - 3:20 pm CST - Hebron Haymakers
3:20 - 3:25 pm CST - Muckboys
.......and so on
This way everyone will know exactly what time it will be when their turn in the draft is up.
If you know you will not be around, send a list and you will not miss a pick.

I sat in front of my computer for 13 hours with few and little breaks Friday.
Spent another 9 hours today. That's to much. With this new format, it will only require that I be on for 5 hours. I can handle that a lot better.

I don't have a problem with this either, Sal. Whatever makes running this beast easier for you is fine by me. And also, anyone who is truly dedicated to this league should always be ready to go when it's their turn to pick, so it's cool.

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by SAL

I'm glad you said something and this is the time to do so. I feel every manager here has an equal voice and if you would like to see something added or changed in league operations, please voice your opinion.
I like where you're going with this and Romy can attest to it, I built my original roster on control factors, defense and punches landed and dis-regarded the hitting power. So I guess what I'm saying is, I'm going against the trend for power.
I'm for amending the current point system and I think most here are willing too. We just need to figure out what we want to change and how. Whatever the majority wants is what we'll do.

If we're going to make a change on the scoring system then I think Chris's idea is probably the best way to go. It puts really slick, defensive fighters on the same level of usefullness as the big power punchers and it won't force teams to make massive changes to their rosters.

Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

I don't have a problem with this either, Sal. Whatever makes running this beast easier for you is fine by me. And also, anyone who is truly dedicated to this league should always be ready to go when it's their turn to pick, so it's cool.

Plus, if you think there is the slightest chance that you won't be ready when your pick is up then just send a draft list to SAL and he'll make the picks for you. As SAL will tell you I sent him six or seven different lists as the draft progessed and my needs changed. Really there is no excuse for a team to miss their pick at all.

[Ian Lord]

Originally Posted by Ian Lord

The Tile Hill Top Team cut bantamweight Willie Smith [4] from their roster.
We also offer HW Paulino Uzcudan [9], and MW Dick Tiger [11] up for trade for first round draft picks next season. First come, first served.

Still had no offers so far. Just to let you all know, if no-one comes in for them then I will keep them, so no hanging around hoping I will drop them anyway

[jbergey22]

This should probably be implemented atleast 3-5 years from now. Imagine when the Magic drafted Shaq, then after the draft stern made a rule that you would lose a point for missing FT's. They may not have taken shaq. I realize this is an extreme comparison, but it really isnt. A lot of people have drafted their team on power(mike), because of the x-tra point awarded for a KO.

I'm not saying that a change cant be made in the future. But when teams have reworked there entire roster to get the power punchers to utilize the rule structure. It would seem very unfair to change this at this point. If this is changed please dont allow the change for atleast 3 years.

I may be a bit bias here as I started out with a team that couldnt knock out a fly but could win fights, I have re structured my entire team to fit the rule structure and would get a bad taste if I had to start back over. On that note, it is a public league and with whatever is decided I can go with that.

[SAL]

No changes will be made in the scoring for the next season/seasons to come. This has just been opened up for discussion, that's all. It will require a league vote before any changes took place anyway and we're a long way from voting on anything.

[mh2365]

I really have no opinions one way or the other on the point system. I have overlooked some guys because of their lack of KO power, but I've also kicked some power punchers off my team.

Like the draft idea .. people should have plenty of time to get Sal a list if they aren't going to be around.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by mh2365

I really have no opinions one way or the other on the point system. I have overlooked some guys because of their lack of KO power, but I've also kicked some power punchers off my team.

Like the draft idea .. people should have plenty of time to get Sal a list if they aren't going to be around.

I might amend the draft schedule a little. With the 5 minute time limit, it kinda of knocks out the trading. I might put in a 20 minute break between the first/second round and one between the second/third round. That will give teams an opportunity to make a deal if they wish during that 20 minute break.

[Ian Lord]

Originally Posted by SAL

Romy posted a request to change the current team playoff system.
Instead of seeding the teams, he suggested we change the format to:
Round 1, East/West winner of the Gold and North/South winner of the Silver match-ups.
Round 2, winner from the two conference championships meet to determine team champion.
(This would give us a Conference Team Champ as well as overall league champion)

Posted below is the current rules for the playoffs.

This sounds good. I'd go with this.

[umk]

I agree with this proposal

Originally Posted by SAL

Romy posted a request to change the current team playoff system.
Instead of seeding the teams, he suggested we change the format to:
Round 1, East/West winner of the Gold and North/South winner of the Silver match-ups.
Round 2, winner from the two conference championships meet to determine team champion.
(This would give us a Conference Team Champ as well as overall league champion)

Posted below is the current rules for the playoffs.