Utba Draft - Page 2

CONN CHRIS · 08-26-2006, 12:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

This may take a while

Yep.

Congrats on bagging Baer Shane!

SAL · 08-26-2006, 12:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

This may take a while

Hopefully everyone will read their PM and be on board sometime tonight or tomorrow morning.
I neglected to send you and Chris a PM, I knew you guys were ready.

Claybor · 08-26-2006, 12:49 AM

I am working tomorrow, so I will send a 2 man draft list by PM before I crash for the night if my pick has not come up.

vistaman44 · 08-26-2006, 01:26 AM

Can't wait any longer. Must sleep. Up at 5:30 a.m. to be at work before 7 a.m.

Will check in from there. G'nite, all.

CONN CHRIS · 08-26-2006, 01:27 AM

I'm shuffling off to bed too, 'night gents.

mh2365 · 08-26-2006, 01:30 AM

Me also

Romdawg88 · 08-26-2006, 01:33 AM

Ya, bunch of lightweights if the sun ain't coming up there ain't no reason to go to sleep on a friday night.

CONN CHRIS · 08-26-2006, 01:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

Ya, bunch of lightweights if the sun ain't coming up there ain't no reason to go to sleep on a friday night.

Four kids and a construction project at my church tomorrow to name five.

Night.

SAL · 08-26-2006, 02:52 AM

How long should I wait for Catalion to respond before I make a selection for him?

The draft came up quick and I didn't send out PMs informing all managers of the draft to much in advance.

The managers that I'm not sure are aware of the draft taking place are: jbergey, Tosti, umk, Catalion, Ian Lord and IceTea.

* The trade wire is now closed *

The draft pool has been updated on page one.
Just a note. When I update the draft list here, I'll also update your teams roster on the Utba thread with the new boxer added plus the change in your cap points.

2nd Pick..................Punching Gatitos are now on the clock.

.......on deck, Juggernaut

mh2365 · 08-26-2006, 09:05 AM

I'd give it 24 hours from the time you sent out the email

Romdawg88 · 08-26-2006, 09:37 AM

24 hours sound good. I think BigMatt knows about the draft since he's posted in the thread after you sent the PM and Shane made his pick.

CONN CHRIS · 08-26-2006, 09:53 AM

As much as I want to get this going, I am willing to be pretty patient this time. I'd even wait untill next weekend. The problem is that we haven't discussed penalties, et cetera.

For the next one however, I would like to see us discuss and establish fair rules and hold everyone to them.

My off-the-cuff rules suggestions for next season:

1) Draft to be held within one week of the finals*
2) No PMs need to be sent from commissioner
3) A person has four hours from the previous pick to make their selection.
4) After four hours, the player's pick is moved to the end of the draft (not the end of the round)
5) If the draft is complete and moved picks have not yet been made, those picks are forfeited within 24 hours.

Those are just quick suggestions. We should not need to be PM'd by Scot about this stuff all the time. I realize that people have busy schedules, but if a person cannot keep up with this, they should not be involved in it to begin with.

As it is the first season and people don't know what to expect, I say we give lots of time for this to play out and be tough but fair next time.

mh2365 · 08-26-2006, 10:06 AM

Post when the draft is going to start 48 hours ahead of time then no PM's needed. I think they should be moved to the end of the round first, then end of the draft.

Also PM Sal ahead of time for him to make your pics if you are going to be gone.

vistaman44 · 08-26-2006, 10:13 AM

... I've been in, for basketball and baseball, with online drafts, each drafter is given a time limit (4-5 hours?), then bypassed if he still hasn't picked and the next person goes. When the delinquent person gets around to checking in, they can post their pick at any time, but will continue to be bypassed and shuffled down the string.
If they get more than 5-6 picks behind, the commish tries to contact them and warn them to pick ASAP, then moves them to the end of the round if necessary. Still no pick? Time to think about moving them to the end of the draft or getting a new manager.
Warning on the draft is usually 48 hours, and some leagues require you send a preference order list to the commish if you know you will be unavailable or offline, as Mike said.

CONN CHRIS · 08-26-2006, 11:16 AM

Those sound like decent rules Mark. I would say that a guy who misses the four hour draft time frame should automatically go to the end of the round though. Wouldn't it just cause confusion if he was able to simply jump in when he felt like it?

Has anyone tried sending an email rather than a PM to our wayward owners?

vistaman44 · 08-26-2006, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Those sound like decent rules Mark. I would say that a guy who misses the four hour draft time frame should automatically go to the end of the round though. Wouldn't it just cause confusion if he was able to simply jump in when he felt like it?

... and Scot is doing a good job of keeping a rein on things and updating all the lists (rosters, eligibles, picks so far, etc.) here, so shouldn't be a problem. I'm good with the tougher rules if everyone else is, though.

bigMatt · 08-26-2006, 12:12 PM

I'm getting married in October and our engagement party is this evening, so I won't be around at all tonight. However, I don't pick until the end of the second.

I'll be available any time tomorrow (after clean up) and Monday. I think if we are all just paying attention and checking in periodically, this should work pretty well.

CONN CHRIS · 08-26-2006, 12:25 PM

Congratulations Matt!

I'm off to the church construction project (our original structure burned down three years ago and we are just finishing up the new building and site). I get to dig holes two feet across and four feet deep all afternoon - yay.

I won't be back until after Matt is gone but given that I have his 1st round pick it should all work out.

SAL · 08-26-2006, 01:29 PM

I have sent Catalion a PM and email informing him that it is his turn to pick. I gave him till 4:00pm CST to make a selection. If by 4:00pm CST he has not made a selection, I told him by email that I would make a selection for him and the draft would move along.

Does this sound fair to everyone?

Catalion · 08-26-2006, 01:29 PM

Punching gatitos go after... Battling Battalino

-apologies for the delay

-

08-26-2006, 01:26 AM	#24 (permalink)
vistaman44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Auxvasse, Mo. Posts: 3,143	11:29 p.m. Can't wait any longer. Must sleep. Up at 5:30 a.m. to be at work before 7 a.m. Will check in from there. G'nite, all. __________________ ---Mark (vistaman44) "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters, compared to what lies within us." — Ralph Waldo Emerson, American essayist, philosopher and poet (1803-1882) ----------------------------------- Currently operating 1980s JM-HW, 1940s, African, 1980s LW and women's boxing universes Last edited by vistaman44 : 08-26-2006 at 10:14 AM.

08-26-2006, 01:27 AM	#25 (permalink)
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 21,322	I'm shuffling off to bed too, 'night gents. __________________ REC World Prizefighter Rankings

08-26-2006, 01:33 AM	#27 (permalink)
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08-26-2006, 02:52 AM	#29 (permalink)
SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: McCune, Kansas Posts: 4,756	How long should I wait for Catalion to respond before I make a selection for him? The draft came up quick and I didn't send out PMs informing all managers of the draft to much in advance. The managers that I'm not sure are aware of the draft taking place are: jbergey, Tosti, umk, Catalion, Ian Lord and IceTea. * The trade wire is now closed * The draft pool has been updated on page one. Just a note. When I update the draft list here, I'll also update your teams roster on the Utba thread with the new boxer added plus the change in your cap points. 2nd Pick..................Punching Gatitos are now on the clock. .......on deck, Juggernaut __________________ Standings Schedule Free Agent Pool/Waiver Ranks Top 20 Ranks Roster Links UTBA II Almanac Traded Draft Picks Draft Entry Ratings Draft Order Draft Pool Last edited by SAL : 08-26-2006 at 01:16 PM.

08-26-2006, 09:37 AM	#31 (permalink)
Romdawg88 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 3,702	24 hours sound good. I think BigMatt knows about the draft since he's posted in the thread after you sent the PM and Shane made his pick. __________________ Romy "Iceman" Alvarez First TBCB Forum Tournament Champion, 10-6 (5). IBL: 5-0 (3) UTBA-II: Muckboys 1-0, 1st Place, 17-15 (13), 56 points Fighter of the Week 1. Sergei Artemiev 2-0

08-26-2006, 12:49 AM	#23 (permalink)
Claybor All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 1,194	I am working tomorrow, so I will send a 2 man draft list by PM before I crash for the night if my pick has not come up.

08-26-2006, 01:30 AM	#26 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Me also

08-26-2006, 09:05 AM	#30 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	I'd give it 24 hours from the time you sent out the email

08-26-2006, 09:53 AM	#32 (permalink)
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 21,322	As much as I want to get this going, I am willing to be pretty patient this time. I'd even wait untill next weekend. The problem is that we haven't discussed penalties, et cetera. For the next one however, I would like to see us discuss and establish fair rules and hold everyone to them. My off-the-cuff rules suggestions for next season: 1) Draft to be held within one week of the finals* 2) No PMs need to be sent from commissioner 3) A person has four hours from the previous pick to make their selection. 4) After four hours, the player's pick is moved to the end of the draft (not the end of the round) 5) If the draft is complete and moved picks have not yet been made, those picks are forfeited within 24 hours. Those are just quick suggestions. We should not need to be PM'd by Scot about this stuff all the time. I realize that people have busy schedules, but if a person cannot keep up with this, they should not be involved in it to begin with. As it is the first season and people don't know what to expect, I say we give lots of time for this to play out and be tough but fair next time. __________________ REC World Prizefighter Rankings

08-26-2006, 10:06 AM	#33 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Post when the draft is going to start 48 hours ahead of time then no PM's needed. I think they should be moved to the end of the round first, then end of the draft. Also PM Sal ahead of time for him to make your pics if you are going to be gone.

08-26-2006, 10:13 AM	#34 (permalink)
vistaman44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Auxvasse, Mo. Posts: 3,143	In other leagues ... ... I've been in, for basketball and baseball, with online drafts, each drafter is given a time limit (4-5 hours?), then bypassed if he still hasn't picked and the next person goes. When the delinquent person gets around to checking in, they can post their pick at any time, but will continue to be bypassed and shuffled down the string. If they get more than 5-6 picks behind, the commish tries to contact them and warn them to pick ASAP, then moves them to the end of the round if necessary. Still no pick? Time to think about moving them to the end of the draft or getting a new manager. Warning on the draft is usually 48 hours, and some leagues require you send a preference order list to the commish if you know you will be unavailable or offline, as Mike said. __________________ ---Mark (vistaman44) "What lies behind us and what lies before us are small matters, compared to what lies within us." — Ralph Waldo Emerson, American essayist, philosopher and poet (1803-1882) ----------------------------------- Currently operating 1980s JM-HW, 1940s, African, 1980s LW and women's boxing universes Last edited by vistaman44 : 08-26-2006 at 11:10 AM.

08-26-2006, 11:16 AM	#35 (permalink)
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 21,322	Those sound like decent rules Mark. I would say that a guy who misses the four hour draft time frame should automatically go to the end of the round though. Wouldn't it just cause confusion if he was able to simply jump in when he felt like it? Has anyone tried sending an email rather than a PM to our wayward owners? __________________ REC World Prizefighter Rankings

08-26-2006, 12:12 PM	#37 (permalink)
bigMatt Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Are you kidding? It's finals week. Posts: 2,202	I'm getting married in October and our engagement party is this evening, so I won't be around at all tonight. However, I don't pick until the end of the second. I'll be available any time tomorrow (after clean up) and Monday. I think if we are all just paying attention and checking in periodically, this should work pretty well. __________________ Owner of the Bonner Springs Bald Beavers, winner of the UTBA II Season 1 World Championship! Season 2 MVPs: Week 1: BW Hideyasu Ishihara Week 2: HW Mike Schreck

08-26-2006, 12:25 PM	#38 (permalink)
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 21,322	Congratulations Matt! I'm off to the church construction project (our original structure burned down three years ago and we are just finishing up the new building and site). I get to dig holes two feet across and four feet deep all afternoon - yay. I won't be back until after Matt is gone but given that I have his 1st round pick it should all work out. __________________ REC World Prizefighter Rankings

08-26-2006, 01:29 PM	#39 (permalink)
SAL Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: McCune, Kansas Posts: 4,756	I have sent Catalion a PM and email informing him that it is his turn to pick. I gave him till 4:00pm CST to make a selection. If by 4:00pm CST he has not made a selection, I told him by email that I would make a selection for him and the draft would move along. Does this sound fair to everyone? __________________ Standings Schedule Free Agent Pool/Waiver Ranks Top 20 Ranks Roster Links UTBA II Almanac Traded Draft Picks Draft Entry Ratings Draft Order Draft Pool Last edited by SAL : 12-16-2007 at 10:55 PM.

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Catalion Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 229	Punching gatitos go after... Battling Battalino -apologies for the delay -