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Old 11-26-2007, 05:50 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Thanksgiving Tournament of the Turkeys

This is my first thread, and, as it involves a universe of heavyweight tomato cans, and a limited one at that, it’ll probably be of interest only to a few viewers.

I have been doing some surfing on Boxrec, and found a number of legitimate tomato cans. I looked at Bear’s Parade of the Tomato Cans thread, and found some viable tomato cans, and found others on posts by Chris Conn, Rocco and others. Soon, I hope to post some of my non-duplicative finds on Bear’s thread.

In any event, I put all of my heavyweight level 1 boxers into a separate database on Thanksgiving morn, found I had 130 boxers, and decided it would be appropriate to have a Tournament of the Turkeys with this esteemed body of fighters, to see who the top level 1 fighter is (and, as an old board gamer, I’ll be rooting for Mel Turnbow). 130 is just over the magical 128 number, but I’ll find a way (draws, box-offs) to get things to the right multiple of 2.

The first two sets of matches are being held at the Mohegan Casino in Connecticut, then the venue may change to Massachusetts. The first two sets will be 8 round fights, then probably going up to 10 rounds (can a tomato can last 10 rounds?). The winner, in addition to the prestigious Campbell’s TC Belt and a frozen turkey and a dozen cases of Campbell’s finest, will get to challenge boxers in the next higher flights such as Chuck Wepner or James J. Beattie. And the winner must grant Mr. Turnbow a shot at the title. The losers get to feed at the turkey buffet offered at each venue.

Will football players who masqueraded as boxers such as Mark Gastineau or Too-Tall Jones win the belt? Doubtful. Will Mel Turnbow reign supreme? Doubtful, but I’ll be pulling for him. Will Dangerous Danny Wofford emerge triumphant? I’m sure he’ll have his fan contingent rooting for him. And I have to root for my namesake, Sam O’Leary, but only after Mel. So let the games begin!

Round 1 Matchups to follow.
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Old 11-26-2007, 05:53 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Here's the opening schedule of 65 bouts.

Fighter 1 Fighter 2

Charlie Jordan Art Jimmerson
Olian Alexander Joe Cox
Elmo Henderson Charley Polite
Joseph Smith Elgie Waters
Wild Bill Hardney Mark Gastineau
Dwayne Hall Art Card
Brian Nix Dick Wipperman
Vic Brown Lou Strydom
Tony LaRosa Unknown Winston
Carmine Vingo Freddy Hubert
George Logan Tony Booth
Cookie Wallace Mario Cawley
Edward Baines Tony Musto
Garing Lane Marcus Rhode
Charley Powell Al Cole
Joe Bygraves Gunnar Barlund
Johnny Erjavec Harley Breshears
Sam O'Leary Sam Shumway
Pedro Agosto Sedrick Fields
Valere Mahau Rudi Lubbers
Charlie Green Don warner
Jack Bodell Derek Amos
Victor McLaglen Dicky Ryan
Mel Turnbow Henry Glass
Colin Wilson Eric Esch
Ed Too Tall Jones Joe Lannon
Guy Casale Robbie Robinson
Mel Harris Tim Anderson
John Basil Jackson Wayne Llewelyn
Sailor Bott Terrence Lewis
Bert Littlejohn Chico Gardner
Bobby Halpern Richard Dunn
Fred Williams Levi Forte
Jimmy Thunder Dave Bailey
Randy Neumann Larry Davis
Jody Ballard Wayne Heath
Melvin Foster Larry Frazier
Ray Impelletiere Jerry Barnes
Duke Sabedong Jim Stewart
Tony Esperti Bob Hazelton
Rocky Gannon Van Dorsey
Irish Pat Duncan Ernie Cab
Horst Herold Anthony Willis
Bud Gorman Billy Hunter
Julius Francis Bill Squires
Marty Franklin Troy Weida
Allen Smith Tunney Hunsaker
Lorenzo Boyd King Solomon
Sailor Jack Carroll Gunnar Nilsson
Stamford Harris Gary Winmon
Jorge Brescia Louis Monaco
Cliff Purnell Tony Doyle
Cliff Couser Derrick Banks
Oscar Pharo Abe Brown
Jem Roche Jack roper
Bobby Crabtree Mike Rodgers
Jeremy Bates Lorenzo Poole
Al Palzer Manfred Schlesinger
Al Benedict Walter Hafer
Cordell Jones Eddie brooks
Jack Munroe Lamar Clark
George Linberger Lou Bailey
Soldier Kearns Dan Daily
Danny Wofford Art Tucker
Johnny Featherman Eddie Gregg
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Cool idea Mike i will be watching.
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Yikes! I am proving to be a tomato can/turkey in my formatting. Is there a way to create a nice formatted copy via copy from Excel or Word?
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Cool idea Mike i will be watching.
Thanks for the reply, as I feared this thread would generate 0 replies!!! And congratulations on your thousandth post! I only need another 978 or so to get there!
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I'm pulling for Mark Gastineau!
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I'm pulling for Mark Gastineau!
Matched against Wild Bill Hardney, It's likely their fight won't go the distance! The suspense is building!
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Sam Shumway? Is he related to Gordon?

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Another ALF joke relating to Sam Shumway.

Sam Shumway
1939-1947
Global ID 35711sexmaledivisionheavyweightnationality United States residenceWebster, Massachusetts, United Stateswon 38 (KO 18) + lost 59 (KO 53) + drawn 4 = 101

I discovered Sam in a post war Ring Record Book and found that his record on Boxrec was even more deplorable. Still he was a headliner in his hometown of Webster, MA and was on the fight card there when a new venue opened. Notched a win vs. Tiger Ted Lowry. Lowry described him as having an agressive crowd pleasing style.

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Sam Shumway? Is he related to Gordon?

Just started watching Season 1 of Alf .... it's funny when I've been drinking ... not so much sober.
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Cool idea.

I'm going w/ Danny Wofford to win it all!
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Pass the stuffing!!

Go Mel!!

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I'm backing the one glove legend, Art Jimmerson in this.
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I'm rooting for Tony Booth. He's the most charasmatic journeyman ever.
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The Alf picture is a hoot! I got the Sam Shumway file from Bear, and thank him again for the history. I now regret that Sam's matched up against another Sam, Sam O'Leary, who has a great last name, in the battle of the Sams!

I enjoyed Alf for a while, but then he did wear a bit thin. And, if I recall corectly, he liked to eat cats, and i've got my reindeer cats, who are near and dear to me, even though one of them scratched me pretty badly this past weekend, so I can't stay an Alf fan, even with many beers.

The tournament commences shortly!
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Wow! There's been a lot of interest so far, much more than I anticipated (yay) and the contestants have been quick to belly up to the buffet in anticipation of their first fights! Thunder and I share a nostalgic liking for Mel Turnbow, and I hope he doesn't go down in the first match (hope springs eternal but reality often brings us back down to Earth)!

I'm thrilled to see that some of the others also have a following, and hope I can get Danny Wofford away from the buffet so that he doesn't forfeit his fight! Danny has threatened to brain Butterbean for encroaching on his platter.

The crowd is clamoring for action, so this tournament is about to commence! Let the best turkey, oops, man, win!!!
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Butterbean is the man in my corner and at the buffet table. Ready for this show to start.
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I'm waiting for the Sam Shumway vs. Alf Langford matchup LOL
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Hey, Houdini. Just wondering. Do you have all of these guys with an Overall Rating of 1?

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In 2.5 there is a zero rating ... interesting to see which of these guys ends up with a 0!
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