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Old 02-27-2008, 08:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Gangs of New York

I am starting a new universe with a fictional story line, but using real fighters. I took all of the fighters in the V2.5 data base from 1890 until 2007. I ended up with 5625 fighters in all of the 17 weight divisions. Then I took all of the divisions and narrowed them down to the original 8 divisions:
Number of fighters
Heavyweight...1146
Light Heavyweight...560
Middleweight...744
Welterweight...818
Lightweight...719
Featherweight...588
Bantamweight...470
Flyweight...580
All fighters will start their careers at the same time. I will not use Tomato Cans. After I get the story off of the ground (which isn’t all that original…) then I will start the universe. I am going to let the computer do as much as possible. I will use the auto-scheduler quite a bit.
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Old 02-27-2008, 08:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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This should be very interesting. Looking forward to it, Jeff.
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Old 02-28-2008, 12:03 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Based on the title will we be seeing Bill the Butcher

Looking forward to seeing where this will go.
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Old 02-28-2008, 02:08 AM   #4 (permalink)
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I see some great matchups coming. I kind of want to do this myself but the historical is the way I went. I will be reading this as I do all the others.
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Old 02-28-2008, 07:26 PM   #5 (permalink)
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The year is 1899. The mayor of New York City is Robert Van Wyck. He has been major since 1898 when New York’s five boroughs where consolidated into a single city. He is generally considered to be a weak major and has little public support. The corrupt political machine, Tammany Hall, is in full swing. Crime is running rampant in the city and it is estimated there are over 100,000 gang members.

However, there is a breath of fresh air in the city. That is with the Police Commissioner, Theodore Roosevelt. He has recognized the gang problem and has appointed a new gang czar, Leonard “Bobo” Morrison, a former pugilist.

Morrison has come up with a plan. He has formed 8 boxing clubs in the city’s most notorious areas:

1) Bedford-Stuyvesant
2) Coney Island
3) South Bronx
4) Five Points
5) The Bowery
6) Hell’s Kitchen
7) Harlem
8) Flatbush

Each club will invite gang members to train and fight in their club. Gang members are welcome in any club, but cannot join a club from their own area. This will cause gang members to go to other areas of the city, but to train and fight, not to commit crimes. And these guys do know how to fight, and they love it.

So far over 5500 gang members have signed up. They will be divided into 8 weight divisions:

1)Heavyweight
2)Light Heavyweight
3)Middleweight
4)Welterweight
5)Lightweight
6)Featherweight
7)Bantamweight
8)Flyweight

Morrison is in the process of selecting the fight venue for each area. Once Morrison gets the ok from city hall on each of the eight venues, he will publish the rules.

Morrison has indicated that initially fighters will only compete in their own area. He said that official bouts will begin in January of 1900, although each club has already begun to train.
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Gang czar Leonard “Bobo” Morrison has received clearance from city hall for exclusive use of the following venues:

1)Bedford-Stuyvesant: Broadway Arena
2)Coney Island: Coney Island Athletic Club
3)South Bronx: Paradise Theater
4)Five Points: Almack’s Dance Hall
5)The Bowery: Grand Ballroom
6)Hell’s Kitchen: Roseland Ballroom
7)Harlem: Harlem Opera House
8)Flatbush: FortHamilton Arena


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Old 02-29-2008, 07:46 PM   #7 (permalink)
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3) South Bronx

My home town LET'S GO SOUTH BRONX!!!!
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South Bronx is gunna have some big names!
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Old 03-01-2008, 01:42 PM   #9 (permalink)
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Guidelines and rules posted by Gang czar Leonard “Bobo” Morrison.

Each fighter will be given a rating between 0 and 15. This will be based on his fighting skills and record in the ring. This will help in the scheduling.

Bouts will be between fighters of no more then 8 rating points difference. The only exception will be the yearly all-city tournament explained below.

Fighters must have at least 6 weeks (42 days) of rest between bouts.

During the first year, all bouts will be 6 rounds. Fighters can only have bouts against fighters in their own club.

Fighters must have 10 bouts to be ranked.

Beginning in 1901, fighters can fight outside of their home club. Each month one club will fight exclusively against another club. For instance, Coney Island will fight against South Bronx during the entire month of January. Bouts will take place at both club’s venues. The following month Coney Island would fight exclusively against another club.

Each January, beginning in 1902, the top ranked fighter in each club will fight in a city wide single elimination tournament to determine the all-city champion. This is for all weight divisions.

All bouts have the following rules:

1. No 3 knockdown rule.
2. 10 point must system.
3. Only saved by the bell in the last round.
4. Only the referee can stop the fight.
5. Accidental head but goes to the scorecards only after the 4th round.
6. No mandatory 8 count.
7. 3 judges will score the fight.
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Old 03-01-2008, 10:27 PM   #10 (permalink)
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NEW BOXING CZAR

By Dan Muldoon, New York Dailey Planet Sports Writer

Saturday, November 25, 1899--After working for several months with the 8 city boxing clubs, Gang Czar Leonard “Bobo” Morrison has been given a new title and an upgraded office. He also has been given additional clerical help. His new title is officially called Boxing Czar.

Morrison has announced the permanent head trainer of each club.

Bedford-Stuyvesant Boxing Club: Lou Duva

Coney Island Boxing Club: Gil Clancy
South Bronx Boxing Club: Ray Arcel
Five Points Boxing Club: Angelo Dundee
Bowery Boxing Club: Teddy Atlas
Hells Kitchen Boxing Club: Cus D’Mato
Harlem Boxing Club: Emanuel Steward
Flatbush Boxing Club: Whitey Bimstein
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This is good stuff Jeff, really enjoying it so far.
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This is good stuff Jeff, really enjoying it so far.
Thanks, should get the fights started in about a week or 10 days...
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Old 03-03-2008, 12:08 PM   #13 (permalink)
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THE FLYWEIGHTS

by Dan Muldoon, New York Dailey Planet Sports Writer

Saturday, December 9, 1899--Boxer czar Leonard "Bobo" Morrison has received the final rating lists from each of the 8 city boxing clubs. He will release a list of the top five fighters in each club. It will be one list per day based on weight class. Insiders say that Miguel Canto is the best Flyweight. At the Bowery gym on Delancy Street head trainer Teddy Atlas said, “I have never seen a fighter train as hard as Canto. The guy is in phenomenal shape, and has great boxing skills.”

The top rated Flyweights:

Bedford-Stuyvesant Boxing Club
  1. Jimmy Wilde
  2. Hilario Zapata
  3. Jung-Koo Chang
  4. Newsboy Brown
  5. Chana Porpaoin
Coney Island Boxing Club
  1. Pancho Villa
  2. Myung-Woo Yuh
  3. Cuban Black Bill
  4. Yuri Arbachakov
  5. Emile Pladner
South Bronx Boxing Club
  1. Pascual Perez
  2. Midget Wolgast
  3. Horacio Accavallo
  4. Nonito Donaire
  5. Muhammad Rachman
Five Points Boxing Club
  1. Ricardo Lopez
  2. Saman Sorjaturong
  3. Oleydong Sithsamerchai
  4. Roberto Vasquez
  5. Miguel Barrera
Bowery Boxing Club
  1. Miguel Canto
  2. Santos Laciar
  3. Benny Lynch
  4. Candido Tellez
  5. Jake Matlala
Hells Kitchen Boxing Club
  1. Panama Al Brown
  2. Yoko Gushiken
  3. Nkosinathi Joyi
  4. Frankie Mason
  5. Teddy Gardner
Harlem Boxing Club
  1. Fidel LaBarba
  2. Frankie Genaro
  3. Humberto Gonzales
  4. Izzy Schwartz
  5. Luis Estaba
Flatbush Boxing Club
  1. Michael Carbajal
  2. Elky Clark
  3. Raton Mojica
  4. Will Grigsby
  5. Jorge Arce
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I wanna see Wilde vs Lopez.. that would be great.
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THE BANTAMWEIGHTS

by “Slag” McGurk, New York Dailey Planet Sports Writer

Sunday, December 10, 1899--The next list is the boxers between 113 pounds and 118 pounds. At this point, the top of the class appears to be Eder Jofre. He is the only fighter to receive a 15 rating. Jofre trains at the Quincy Street Gym in the heart of Bedford-Stuyvesant in Brooklyn. Head trainer Lou Duva said, “Jofre’s hand speed defies reality. It is almost unfair to the other boxers. I can’t what to see his debut next month.”

The top rated Bantamweights:

Bedford-Stuyvesant Boxing Club
  • Eder Jofre
  • Agustin Senin
  • Harry Harris
  • Paulie Ayala
  • Sugar Baby Rojas
Coney Island Boxing Club
  • Carlos Zarate
  • Charley Phil Rosenberg
  • Fighting Harada
  • Alfonso Zamora
  • Lupe Pintor
South Bronx Boxing Club
  • Khaosai Galaxy
  • Gilberto Roman
  • Sixto Escobar
  • Kid Williams
  • Jesus Pimentel
Five Points Boxing Club
  • Jimmy Barry
  • Manuel Ortiz
  • Samson Dutch Boy Gym
  • Jiro Watanabe
  • Orlando Canizales
Bowery Boxing Club
  • Ruben Olivares
  • Owen Moran
  • Al Delmont
  • Bud Taylor
  • Lou Salica
Hell’s Kitchen Boxing Club
  • Pete Herman
  • Memphis Pal Moore
  • Johnny Coulon
  • Johnny Tapia
  • Jose Becerra
Harlem Boxing Club
  • Jeff Chandler
  • Sung Kil Moon
  • Jimmy Carruthers
  • Rafael Marquez
  • Gustavo Ballas
Flatbush Boxing Club
  • Rosey Stoy
  • Terry McGovern
  • Frankie Burns
  • Eijiro Murata
  • Eddie Campi
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Are all 5,000 plus active at once? If so, wow. That's huge.
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Great idea, can't wait to see how it develops.
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Old 03-04-2008, 07:31 AM   #18 (permalink)
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Are all 5,000 plus active at once? If so, wow. That's huge.
Yep everybody starts at the same time. The auto-scheduler is gunna be busy!
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Old 03-04-2008, 06:47 PM   #19 (permalink)
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THE FEATHERWEIGHTS

by “Slag” McGurk, New York Dailey Planet Sports Writer

Monday, December 11, 1899--The featherweights top out at 126 pounds. Willie Pep, who trains at the notorious Waterfront Gym in Five Points, is alone at the top with a 14 rating. It looks like he will have his hands full with the likes of Sandy Sadler, Wilfredo Gomez and Salvador Sanchez.

The top rated Featherweights:

Bedford-Stuyvesant Boxing Club
  • Erik Morales
  • Naseem Hamed
  • Freddie Miller
  • Rocky Juarez
  • Battling Battalino
Coney Island Boxing Club
  • Abe Attell
  • Kid Chocolate
  • Junior Jones
  • Baby Arizmendi
  • Andre Routis
South Bronx Boxing Club
  • Eusebio Pedroza
  • Bobby Chacon
  • Ernesto Marcel
  • Chris John
  • Chalky Wright
Five Points Boxing Club
  • Willie Pep
  • Sergio Palma
  • Juan Manuel Marquez
  • Cruz Marcano
  • Paul Engle
Bowery Boxing Club
  • Sandy Sadler
  • Vicente Saldivar
  • Israel Vasquez
  • Danny Lopez
  • Dick Finnegan
Hell’s Kitchen Boxing Club
  • Wilfredo Gomez
  • Jeff Fenech
  • Benny Bass
  • Nel Tarleton
  • Oscar Larios
Harlem Boxing Club
  • Jem Driscoll
  • Johnny Kilbane
  • Tommy O’Toole
  • Louis Kaplan
  • Miguel Berrios
Flatbush Boxing Club
  • Salvador Sanchez
  • Juan LaPorte
  • Sugar Ramos
  • Kevin Kelley
  • Eugene Criqui
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I'm curious about how you assigned the fighters to their respective clubs.
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