Noob In the House

[VaCubbie]

Greetings everyone! I have been playing 2.5 for a couple of weeks now and totally love the game, and especially enjoy reading the 'Inside the Ropes' section of the forums. Being inspired, I am thinking about starting a "World Cup of Boxing" type competition that takes place in similar fashion to Soccer, except that only 8 or 16 national teams qualify.

Before I begin though, I have a question about aging. I have noticed that most of the writers here use their own aging system. What is the drawback to auto-aging? Is it too linear? Too extreme? Or is it just a matter of wanting to maintain control. It is going to be a pretty sizeable universe and I am not too worried about individual careers as much as the big competitions every 4 years. Would auto-aging be ok for my purposes

I also don't want to step on anyones toes, so if anyone is doing something similiar, let me know and I can read through the thread and see if I can't change things up a bit on my end.

Laters!

[bear]

Originally Posted by VaCubbie

Greetings everyone! I have been playing 2.5 for a couple of weeks now and totally love the game, and especially enjoy reading the 'Inside the Ropes' section of the forums. Being inspired, I am thinking about starting a "World Cup of Boxing" type competition that takes place in similar fashion to Soccer, except that only 8 or 16 national teams qualify.

Before I begin though, I have a question about aging. I have noticed that most of the writers here use their own aging system. What is the drawback to auto-aging? Is it too linear? Too extreme? Or is it just a matter of wanting to maintain control. It is going to be a pretty sizeable universe and I am not too worried about individual careers as much as the big competitions every 4 years. Would auto-aging be ok for my purposes

I also don't want to step on anyones toes, so if anyone is doing something similiar, let me know and I can read through the thread and see if I can't change things up a bit on my end.

Laters!

Welcome aboard.

bear

[JCWeb]

I had thoughts of doing something similar, either a World Cup or Premier League type format (but right now have difficulty keeping my one Uni going let alone a second one), so it will be interesting to follow yours.

To answer your question about Aging, I use a historical Uni and want to try to age my boxers in a manner similar to how they age historically. Plus, my Uni started before 2.5 came out and I didn't feel like switching over -- was comfortable with my aging rules, which were based on something developed by CubeDrum several years back, in the early days of TBCB 2.0. I considered Auto-Aging, and while it's probably easier from a database management perspective, it adds a random element that may not be all that desirable with a historial Uni. (I.e., would you want Dempsey to retire early before Tunney came along?) On the other hand, with a non-historical Uni, it may well be the best way to go.

[professordp]

I'm really looking forward to this thread. Just a few questions. Would you have all of the weight divisions represented similar to the Olympics. How about qualification rounds to see who makes the national team? What methods would you employ to award points to the teams?

I'm just curious!

BTW, welcome to the forum! There's a lot of great people here and a ton of "goodies" to enhance your simulations.

[VaCubbie]

Originally Posted by professordp

I'm really looking forward to this thread. Just a few questions. Would you have all of the weight divisions represented similar to the Olympics. How about qualification rounds to see who makes the national team? What methods would you employ to award points to the teams?

I'm just curious!

BTW, welcome to the forum! There's a lot of great people here and a ton of "goodies" to enhance your simulations.

Thanks all! I’m looking forward to getting my feet wet.

I will be using the standard 8 weight divisions for this particular uni (still new and would like to keep it as simple as possible). All weight classes will be represented, but in order for a JWW to fight in the WW division, he will have to bump up.

The WC will consist of the 16 “best” nations (brainstorming ideas to rank nations and would certainly welcome any advice/inputs). I will sim 3 years of activity and at the beginning of the 4th year the 16 nations will be announced. Each nation will present its two best fighters for each weight class for a total of 16 boxers. From there, they will be seeded into 4 groups (A-D) and fight each other once using a scoring and scheduling method similar to SAL’s UTBA II thread. The top two teams out of each group advance to the elimination stage…etc. etc. The entire tournament would probably take about 4 months in uni time.

The trick part is the ranking of the nations though and I have thought that there really can’t be anything too scientific. First of all, in order for a country to even be considered they would have to be able to provide two boxers per division…and in your typical uni, this cancels out a bunch of countries (unless I force feed them some RFG’s). Would it be a matter of simply calculating wins vs. losses? Average fighter ratings? Since we are simming for 3 years between WC’s I am leaning toward a W-L assessment, but again…I would welcome any suggestions.

Another quandary is the sheer amount of talent that the US, England, and Mexico produces (even when creating RFG’s) and if they will constantly be battling each other year after year with the US basically being a dynasty. I would probably have to create some RFG’s for the smaller countries to keep the playing field level. Would it be interesting to see Joe Frazier face off in a quarter-final bout against Scotland’s very own Joe Whoever?

Those are just a couple of ideas rolling around in my head, but hopefully I will get underway soon. Thanks for the interest!

[Mad Bomber]

Welcome to the board, and I will be following your UNI to see how it plays out.

Greg

[VaCubbie]

Originally Posted by Mad Bomber

Welcome to the board, and I will be following your UNI to see how it plays out.

Greg

Thanks Mad Bomber and everyone else! Unfortunately, this idea doesn't look good on paper...lol! I even tried to go with an all-time World Cup, but there are too many U.S. fighters to keep it interesting. It would require way to many RFG's to keep it competitive. I'll have to come up with something else.

"Noob in the House" ....what a fitting title

[Jersey-Jim]

Hello VaCubbie,

Whatever type of universe you create - enjoy it and have fun. There's lot of Good stuff on "Inside the Ropes."

[kenyan_cheena]

Originally Posted by VaCubbie

Thanks Mad Bomber and everyone else! Unfortunately, this idea doesn't look good on paper...lol! I even tried to go with an all-time World Cup, but there are too many U.S. fighters to keep it interesting. It would require way to many RFG's to keep it competitive. I'll have to come up with something else.

"Noob in the House" ....what a fitting title

How about instead of a world cup, make it a global boxing league where teams draft fighters to compete for them. That way the American talent would be spread pretty evenly. You could use the UTBA as a model, maybe have a dozen teams around the world. Just an idea for you to consider.

[Jeff1787]

Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

How about instead of a world cup, make it a global boxing league where teams draft fighters to compete for them. That way the American talent would be spread pretty evenly. You could use the UTBA as a model, maybe have a dozen teams around the world. Just an idea for you to consider.

Welcome to a cool boxing forum, VaCubbie. The above idea by KC seems like something you could use as sort of a starting point. You just need an idea that will spread the talent around. No matter what you come up with, it will be just fine!

[Ian Lord]

Welcome aboard

[Cap]

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[javier_83]

they need also to have the aprovation of the latinamerican market right??

[Dragon-Wolf]

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