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Ketchel's first six fights were 4 rounds. He lost one and had one draw. Since then all of his fights have been 6 rounds.

Blackburn is 8-2 (3). He lost two 4 rounders.

I have the new fighters set up this way:

First 6 months - 4 rounds
Next 12 months - 6 rounds
Next 18 months - 8 rounds
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Upcoming championship bouts

Charles McCoy – Middleweight
Record: 43-3 (36)
Title bouts: 6-1 (5)
Country: United States
Age: 31
Next title fight: #3 Jewey Cook – January 5, 1904
(The real champion was Tommy Ryan, retired from the PBR)

Joe Gans – Lightweight

Record: 44-0 (22)
Title bouts: 9-0 (3)
Country: United States
Age: 29
Next title fight: #4 Willie Fitzgerald – January 12, 1904 (Historical bout)
(The real champion was Gans)

Young Corbett II – Featherweight
Record: 26-2-1 (14)
Title bouts: 3-0 (3)
Country: United States
Age: 23
Next title fight: #13 Dave Sullivan – February 29, 1904 (Historical bout)
(The real champion was Abe Attell, currently ranked #1 in the PBR)

Jimmy Barry – Bantamweight
Record: 42-0 (20)
Title bouts: 8-0 (5)
Country: United States
Age: 33
Next title fight: #5 Owen Moran – March 5, 1904
(The real champion was Frankie Neil, currently ranked #8 in the PBR)


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1904 notable debuts

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January 1904...notable bouts

…January 1, 1904
FW: #7 Benny Yanger 16-5-1 (6) Draw12 #11 Danny McBride 30-11-2 (5)

…January 5, 1904
MW: CH Charles McCoy 43-3-0 (36) UD15 #3 Jewey Cook 21-10-6 (7)
  • PBR Title bout: McCoy is 7-1 in title bouts

…January 12, 1904
LW: CH Joe Gans 44-0-0 (22) Tech UD11 #4 Willie Fitzgerald 19-3-0 (5)
  • PBR Title bout: 9th straight successful defense for Gans
  • Historical bout: Gans by points in 10 rounds; Fitzgerald was down in 1st, 4th, 6th, and 8th

…January 13, 1904
WW: #9 Honey Mellody 17-2-2 (2) KO4 #7 Matty Matthews 18-8-0 (1)
  • Historical bout: Melody by points in 12 rounds

…January 16, 1904
MW: #2 Harry Peppers 36-7-3 (22) UD12 #5 Mike Donovan 17-8-1 (3)
LW: #1 Battling Nelson 26-3-0 (7) UD12 #17Art Simms 18-6-1 (6)
  • Historical bout: Nelson KO3

…January 25, 1904
LW: #2 Jack Everhardt 36-8-1 (16) UD12 #12 Frank Erne 35-13-1 (18)

…January 26, 1904
LW: #3 Billy Hill 38-7-1 (23) KO7 #10 Rufe Turner 16-7-0 (7)

…January 29, 1904
HW: #17 Denver Ed Martin 13-8-2 (7) TKO2 #11 Bob Armstrong 31-9-0 (21)
LW: #13 Stanton Abbott 43-18-3 (30) #5 TKO6 Billy Ernst 38-9-0 (24)


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February 1904...notable bouts

February 26th – Light Heavyweight division: #4 ranked Jack Root (20-3-2 (8)) scored a 5th round knockout over #3 ranked George Gardner 20-2-2 (10).

The real historical bout ended in a six round draw.

February 29th – Featherweight division: In a PBR title bout, #13 ranked Dave Sullivan 24-11-1 (11) scored a 2nd round TKO over the champion, Young Corbett II 26-2-1 (14) to capture the title. Corbett had defended his title twice.

In the real historical bout, Sullivan scored an 11th round TKO. Per BoxRec.com, Corbett defended his World title at 130 lbs but Abe Attell was recognized as the true World Featherweight champion at 122lbs.


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Notable bouts...March 1904

March 5th: Bantamweight division: In a PBR title bout, Champion Jimmy Barry 42-0-0 (20) scored a 15 round unanimous decision over #5 ranked Owen Moran 17-2-2 (7).

Barry had Moran down in the 3rd and the 13th; Moran only landed 15% of his punches.

This was not a historical bout.

March 28th: Featherweight division: #1 ranked Abe Attell 19-1 (4) scored a 12 round unanimous decision over #3 ranked Aurelio Herrera 17-4-3 (10).

There were no knockdowns in the fight; Attell landed 60% of his punches compared to only 10% for Herrera.

In the real historical bout, Attell won by points in six rounds.


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Notable bouts...April 1904

…April 18, 1904

BW: #18 Digger Stanley 10-10-1 (1) Draw12 #7 Jimmy Walsh 14-6-1 (1)
  • Historical bout: Stanley by points in 15 rounds

…April 20, 1904

HW: #5 Marvin Hart 14-5-2 (4) MD12 #4 Gus Ruhlin 25-5-1 (20)
  • Historical bout: Hart won a newspaper decision in 6 rounds per the Altoona Mirror

…April 29, 1904

WW: #13 Dixie Kid 17-2-0 (4) UD12 #8 Joe Walcott 35-15-1 (8)
  • Historical bout: Kid by DQ20 for the World welterweight title
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Upcoming title bouts

Philadelphia Jack O’Brien – Light Heavyweight
Record: 25-2 (8)
Title bouts: 8-0 (3)
Country: United States
Age: 26
Next title fight: unranked George Cole – May 25, 1904 (Historical bout)
Cole is moving up to the Light Heavyweight Division
(The real champion was Bob Fitzsimmons, retired from the PBR)


Jack Johnson – Heavyweight

Record: 30-3-3 (13)
Title bouts: 2-0
Country: United States
Age: 26
Next title fight: #6 Frank Childs – June 2, 1904 (Historical bout)
(The real champion was James Jeffries, currently ranked #2 in the PBR)


Utah Bob Thompson – Welterweight

Record: 28-11-4 (18)
Title bouts: 1-0 (1)
Country: United States
Age: 28
Next title fight: #3 Philadelphia Tommy Ryan – July 3, 1904
(The real champion was Dixie Kid, currently ranked #9 in the PBR)


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Notable bouts...May 1904

...May 20, 1904

HW: #4 Marvin Hart 15-5-2 (4) MD12 #5 Gus Ruhlin 25-6-1 (20)
  • Historical bout – 12 round draw

...May 25, 1904

LHW: Unranked George Cole 32-5-2 (5) SD15 Champ Philadelphia Jack O'Brien 25-2-0 (8)
  • PBR Title bout – Cole moved up from welterweight to take the title
  • Historical bout – 6 round draw

...May 26, 1904

HW: #7 Mike Schreck 16-6-0 (8) TKO7 #8 Jim Scanlon 15-9-1 (7)
  • Historical bout – Schreck TKO4

...May 30, 1904

BW: #5 Owen Moran 17-3-2 (7) SD12 #7 Joe Bowker 17-4-2 (4)
  • Historical bout – Bowker by points in 20 for the British bantamweight title
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Notable bouts...June 1904

…June 2, 1904

HW: Champ Jack Johnson 30-3-3 (13) TKO12 #6 Frank Childs 32-12-1 (20)
  • PBR Title bout – Johnson’s second title defense
  • Historical bout – Johnson by points in 6 rounds

…June 6, 1904

BW: #6 Jimmy Walsh 14-6-2 (1) UD12 #17 Digger Stanley 10-10-2 (1)
  • Historical bout – 15 round draw

…June 10, 1904


WW: #2 Young Peter Jackson 30-2-1 (18) KO10 #11 Joe Walcott 35-16-1 (8)
  • Historical bout – Jackson KO4

…June 13, 1904

FW: #7 Benny Yanger 16-5-2 (6) UD12 #6 Aurelio Herrera 17-5-3 (10)
  • Historical bout – Herrera KO8
WW: #6 Honey Mellody 18-2-2 (3) UD12 #22 Jack O'Keefe 14-5-4 (6)
  • Historical bout – 20 round draw
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Notable bouts - July 1904

...July 3, 1904

WW: #17 Tommy West 21-17-6 (15) KO8 #5 Mike Sullivan 19-1-2 (3)
  • Sullivan had 13 straight wins

WW: #8 Philadelphia Tommy Ryan 21-9-3 (8) MD15 Champ Utah Bob Thompson 28-11-4 (18)

  • PBR Title bout - Thompson's first title defense; Ryan had six straight wins going into the bout; his last loss was to Thompson in early 1902

...July 5, 1904

BW: #13 Jack Kid Madden 22-11-3 (3) UD12 #1 Harry Harris 23-4-3 (5)
  • Big upset here



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Friday, July 29, 1903

PBR news: 17th ranked heavyweight, Hank Griffin, of the United States, has announced his retirement. The announcement came after a 1st round knockout loss at the hands of Tom Sharkey.

The big moment in Griffin's career came on February 17th, 1900, when he lost a heavyweight title bout to Sharkey. Griffin was knocked out in the 7th round. It was Griffin’s only title shot. He was the #1 contender at that time. Griffin remained a top 10 contender until May of 1903.



Real stuff - courtesy of the internet:

Some sources report that Griffin was past his prime when he met Jim Jeffries in 1895; They also state that Griffin had 219 bouts up to that time, winning 103 by knockout; Photographs of Griffin make him appear to be 6-2 or 6-3 and about 200 lbs.

His greatest skills as a boxer were the use of his long arms in jabbing an opponent and his defensive ability.

Badly mismanaged during much of his career, Griffin found some success acting as sparring partner and trainer for more profitable boxers. He was Bob Fitzsimmons' chief sparring partner prior to his title loss to Jeffries.

He later owned and operated a hotel and boxing school and gymnasium in Ann Arbor, Michigan. Another man took his name (“Young Hank Griffin") and fought Joe Jeannette, Tony Ross, Jim Barry, and others from 1908 and afterward. The "real" Griffin died of tuberculosis on 2 May 1911 in Ann Arbor.

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Notable bouts - August 1904

...August 12, 1904

HW: #3 Sam McVey 14-0-2 (10) KO6 #13Denver Ed Martin 14-8-2 (8)
  • Historical bout - Martin by points in 10 rounds

...August 29, 1904

WW: #13 Andrew Jeptha 14-5-5 (6) TKO7 #9 Dixie Kid 18-2-0 (4)
  • Kid has now lost 3 out of 5 after going 17-0
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Upcoming title bouts

Dave Sullivan – Featherweight
Record: 25-11-1 (12)
Title bouts: 1-0 (1)
Country: Ireland
Age: 27
Next title fight: #4 Ben Jordan – September 5, 1904
(The real champion was Abe Attell, currently ranked #1 in the PBR)

Charles McCoy – Middleweight
Record: 44-3 (36)
Title bouts: 7-1 (5)
Country: United States
Age: 31
Next title fight: unranked Jack Sullivan – September 27, 1904 (Historical bout)
Sullivan is moving down from LHW
(The real champion was Tommy Ryan, retired from the PBR)

Joe Gans – Lightweight
Record: 45-0 (22)
Title bouts: 10-0 (3)
Country: United States
Age: 29
Next title fight: #22 Jimmy Britt – October 21, 1904 (Historical bout)
(The real champion was Gans)

Jimmy Barry – Bantamweight
Record: 43-0 (20)
Title bouts: 9-0 (5)
Country: United States
Age: 34
Next title fight: #7 Harry Forbes – November 15, 1904
(The real champion was Joe Bowker, currently ranked #12 in the PBR)

George Cole – Light Heavyweight
Record: 33-5-2 (5)
Title bouts: 3-1
Country: United States
Age: 25
Next title fight: #3 Jack Root – November 22, 1904
(The real champion was Bob Fitzsimmons, retired from the PBR)

Jack Johnson – Heavyweight
Record: 31-3-3 (14)
Title bouts: 3-0 (1)
Country: United States
Age: 26
Next title fight: #4 Marvin Hart – December 20, 1904
(The real champion was James Jeffries, currently ranked #2 in the PBR)


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Notable bouts - September 1904

...September 5, 1904

FW: #4 Ben Jordan 27-7-1 (10) KO1 Champ Dave Sullivan 25-11-1 (12)
  • PBR Title bout - Sullivan loses in his first title defense

...September 10, 1904

FW: #3 Terry McGovern 23-4-0 (19) UD12 #5 Young Corbett II 26-3-1 (14)

...September 25, 1904

LW: #4 Arthur Douglas 18-2-1 (6) TKO10 #3 Jack Everhardt 38-8-1 (16)
  • Douglas wants another shot at the champ, Joe Gans

...September 27, 1904

HW: #2 James Jeffries 24-5-1 (16) KO9 #6 Mike Schreck 17-6-0 (9)

MW: Champ Charles McCoy 44-3-0 (36) KO10 unranked Jack Sullivan 9-12-0 (2)
  • PBR Title bout - Sullivan moved down from LHW
  • Historical bout - McCoy by points in 20 rounds
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Notable bouts - October 1904

...October 7, 1904

LW: #1 Battling Nelson 28-3-0 (7) UD12 #2 Billy Hill 40-7-1 (25)
  • The two top contenders squared off

...October 13, 1904

FW: #1 Abe Attell 21-1-0 (4) UD12 unranked Brooklyn Tommy Sullivan 16-11-1 (5)
  • Historical bout - Sullivan KO5…World Featherweight Title…Attell claimed a foul, which was disallowed after a medical examination.

...October 17, 1904

BW: #12 Joe Bowker 17-5-2 (4) UD12 #13 Frankie Neil 15-4-3 (4)
  • Historical bout - Bowker pts 20, World BW Title

...October 20, 1904

FW: #2 Jem Driscoll 20-0-1 (8) KO1 #8 Will Curley 18-5-4 (4)

...October 21, 1904

LW: Champ Joe Gans 45-0-0 (22) KO6 #22 Jimmy Britt 14-5-2 (2)
  • PBR Title bout - Gans 11-0 in title bouts
  • Historical bout - Gans DQ5...World LW Title, Britt knocked Gans down four times. The last time, he hit Gans as he was rising and was disqualified.

...October 24, 1904

WW: #6 Honey Mellody 19-2-2 (3) TKO10 #22 Jack O'Keefe 14-6-4 (6)
  • Historical bout - Mellody pts 20

...October 29, 1904

BW: #3 Owen Moran 18-3-2 (7) UD12 #15 Harry Ware 9-15-1 (2)
  • Historical bout - Moran DQ4…billed for the English title

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Notable bouts - November 1904

...November 1, 1904

HW: #14 Denver Ed Martin 14-9-2 (8) UD12 #7 Frank Childs 32-13-1 (20)
  • Historical bout - Martin by points in 6

...November 15, 1904

BW: Champ Jimmy Barry 43-0-0 (20) TKO9 #7 Harry Forbes 14-11-2 (3)
  • PBR Title bout - Barry 10-0 in title bouts

...November 22, 1904

LHW: Champ George Cole 33-5-2 (5) UD15 #3 Jack Root 22-3-2 (10)
  • PBR Title - Cole's first title defense in LHW division
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