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Old 09-28-2009, 01:06 AM   #161 (permalink)
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Walcott Retires

PBR news: November 27, 1905 - 13th ranked welterweight, Joe Walcott, of Barbados, has announced his retirement. The announcement came after yesterday’s 7th round knockout loss to Tom Couhig, ranked #12 in the welterweight division.

Known as the “Barbados Demon,” Walcott is 32 years old. He never fought for the championship in the PBR, although he was ranked as high as #3. He lost his last three fights.





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Walcott was a short, squat fighter with long arms and an extremely powerful punch. He was also quick and durable; he was one of the greatest "pound for pound" fighters in boxing history and fought men weighing from lightweight to heavyweight during his career.

Both Nat Fleischer and Charley Rose ranked Walcott as the #1 All-Time Welterweight; other sports personalities such as Tad Dorgan, Tom O’Rourke, Dan Morgan and Jimmy Johnston had called Joe “the greatest pound for pound fighter who ever lived;” he was elected to the Ring Boxing Hall of Fame in 1955 and the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 1991.


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...December 2, 1905

HW: #2 Jack Johnson 32-4-3 (15) UD12 #4 Joe Jeannette 15-1-0 (11)
  • Historical bout - ND6

...December 10, 1905


FW: #8 Tim Hegarty 37-10-1 (11) TKO9 #10 Billy Whistler 22-13-6 (2)

...December 11, 1905


MW: #7 Young Mahoney 18-11-1 (9) UD12 #21 Hugo Kelly 14-9-2 (2)
  • Historical bout - Draw 10

...December 13, 1905

HW: #8 Mike Schreck 18-8-0 (9) KO5 #11 Gus Ruhlin 27-8-1 (22)

WW: #1 Rube Ferns 28-3-1 (15) TKO9 #15 Tommy West 22-20-6 (16)

...December 15, 1905

BW: #5 Harry Harris 26-5-3 (5) UD12 #8 Pedlar Palmer 40-9-2 (7)

...December 19, 1905

HW: #3 Sam McVey 18-0-2 (14) KO8 #10 Denver Ed Martin 17-9-2 (9)

...December 20, 1905

LW: #3 Willie Fitzgerald 22-5-0 (7) MD12 #6 Jack Goldswain 28-11-1 (9)

...December 22, 1905

LW: #4 Jack Blackburn 17-2-0 (6) UD12 #19 Frank Erne 37-16-2 (19)


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PBR Champions as of January 1st, 1906

Jack Root – Heavyweight
Record: 25-4-2 (10)
Title bouts: 2-2
Country: United States
Age: 29
(The real champion was Marvin Hart, currently ranked #5 in the PBR)

Sam Langford – Light Heavyweight
Record: 23-1-1 (17)
Title bouts: 2-0 (1)
Country: Canada
Age: 22
(The real champion VACANT)

Charles McCoy – Middleweight
Record: 47-3 (39)
Title bouts: 10-1 (8)
Country: United States
Age: 33
(The real champion was Tommy Ryan, retired from the PBR)

Young Peter Jackson – Welterweight
Record: 34-2-1 (20)
Title bouts: 2-1
Country: United States
Age: 27
(The real champion was Honey Mellody, currently ranked #10 in the PBR)

Mike Sullivan – Lightweight
Record: 22-3-2 (4)
Title bouts: 1-0
Country: United States
Age: 27
(The real champion was Joe Gans, currently ranked #2 in the PBR)

Abe Attell – Featherweight
Record: 25-1 (5)
Title bouts: 3-1 (1)
Country: United States
Age: 21
(The real champion was Attell)

Jimmy Barry – Bantamweight
Record: 46-0 (21)
Title bouts: 12-0 (6)
Country: United States
Age: 35
(The real champion was Jimmy Walsh, currently ranked #5 in the PBR)


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Schedule of championship bouts in early 1906 – all fights are 15 rounds

Champion Mike Sullivan...22-3-2 (4) vs. #2 Joe Gans...47-1 (23)
Lightweight Division
January 19th
Historical bout

Champion Abe Attell...25-1 (5) vs. unranked Jimmy Walsh...19-6-2 (2)
Featherweight Division
February 22nd
Historical bout - Walsh moving up from bantamweight

Champion Sam Langford...23-1-1 (17) vs. #6 Larry Temple...19-7-1 (8)
Light Heavyweight Division
February 28th
Historical bout

Champion Young Peter Jackson...34-2-1 (20) vs. #10 Honey Mellody...21-4-2 (5)
Welterweight Division
April 5th

Champion Jack Root...25-4-2 (10) vs. #5 Marvin Hart...18-7-2 (5)
Heavyweight Division
April 25th


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...January 12, 1906

FW: #4 Young Corbett II 28-5-1 (16) UD12 #10 Aurelio Herrera 18-8-3 (10)
  • Historical bout - Herrera KO5

...January 19, 1906

LW: #2 Joe Gans 47-1-0 (23) KO4 Champ Mike Sullivan 22-3-2 (4)
  • PBR Title bout - Sullivan lost in first defense of his title
  • Historical bout - Gans KO15 for the World Welterweight title, Sullivan down in the 8th; Gans down in the 11th

...January 25, 1906

HW: #3 Sam McVey 19-0-2 (15) KO4 #11 Denver Ed Martin 17-10-2 (9)
  • Historical bout - McVey KO4
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...February 22, 1906

FW: Champ Abe Attell 25-1-0 (5) UD15 unranked Jimmy Walsh 19-6-2 (2)
  • PBR Title bout - Walsh moved up from Bantamweight
  • Historical bout - Attell by points in 15 for the World Featherweight Title

...February 26, 1906

MW: #9 Charles Goff 26-12-6 (7) TKO11 #4 Harry Peppers 40-9-3 (23)

...February 28, 1906

WW: #11 Perry Queenan 20-10-1 (4) Draw12 #9 Owen Ziegler 29-16-2 (12)

LHW: Champ Sam Langford 23-1-1 (17) KO13 #6 Larry Temple 19-7-1 (8)
  • PBR Title bout - Langford's 2nd title defense, both against Temple
  • Historical bout - Langford KO15
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...March 14, 1906

LW: unranked Terry McGovern 26-5-0 (20) TKO11 #1 Battling Nelson 32-3-0 (8)
  • Historical bout - NSW6, Nelson easily won according to the Philadelphia Item for the World LW Title, McGovern up from FW

HW: #1 Jack Johnson 33-4-3 (15) UD12 #6 Joe Jeannette 15-2-0 (11)
  • Historical bout - Johnson by points in 15

...March 16, 1906

WW: #1 Rube Ferns 29-3-1 (16) MD12 #3 Matty Matthews 20-10-1 (1)
  • Historical bout - Ferns TKO9

...March 17, 1906

LW: Champ Joe Gans 48-1-0 (24) TKO2 #2 Mike Sullivan 22-4-2 (4)
  • PBR Title bout - Rematch from January 1906 where Gans won by KO4
  • Historical bout - Gans TKO10

...March 28, 1906

HW: #2 James Jeffries 27-6-1 (19) TKO11 #10 Frank Childs 34-14-2 (21)

...March 29, 1906

BW: #9 Joe Bowker 19-7-2 (4) TKO8 #1 Al Delmont 21-2-1 (1)
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...April 4, 1906

MW: #3 Jack Bonner 30-14-5 (17) TKO6 #8 Kid Carter 19-9-4 (12)

...April 5, 1906

WW: #10 Honey Mellody 21-4-2 (5) UD15 Champ Young Peter Jackson 34-2-1 (20)
  • PBR Title bout - Jackson loses in his 2nd title defense

...April 20, 1906

FW: #7 Will Curley 20-7-4 (5) UD12 #6 Tim Hegarty 38-10-1 (12)


...April 25, 1906

HW: #5 Marvin Hart 18-7-2 (5) KO9 Champ Jack Root 25-4-2 (10)
  • PBR Title bout - Hart regains the title

...April 28, 1906

BW: #3 Owen Moran 22-3-2 (9) TKO2 #11 Tommy Feltz 10-12-5 (5)


...April 29, 1906

HW: #4 Tom Sharkey 40-4-1 (36) KO9 #7 Mike Schreck 19-8-0 (10)


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...May 21, 1906

LW: #5 Jack Blackburn 18-2-0 (6) KO4 #8 Jack Goldswain 28-12-1 (9)
  • Both of these fighters were looking for a title shot

...May 24, 1906

WW: #4 Billy Gardner 27-8-1 (7) TKO10 #5 Utah Bob Thompson 31-13-4 (18)

...May 29, 1906

MW: #7 Mike Donovan 20-11-2 (3) UD12 #6 Jewey Cook 23-15-6 (8)

...May 30, 1906

MW: #10 Frank Sturgeon 23-18-3 (15) KO1 #11 Willie Lewis 17-7-3 (4)

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...June 6, 1906

MW: Champ Charles McCoy 47-3-0 (39) KO7 #8 Kid Carter 19-10-4 (12)
  • PBR Title bout

...June 15, 1906

LW: Champ Joe Gans 49-1-0 (25) TKO11 #7 Frankie Neil 17-7-3 (4)
  • PBR Title bout

...June 24, 1906

HW: #3 Sam McVey 20-0-2 (16) TKO3 #14 Mexican Pete Everett 28-16-0 (18)
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PBR Champions as of July 1st, 1906

Marvin Hart – Heavyweight
Record: 19-7-2 (6)
Title bouts: 2-2 (1)
Country: United States
Age: 29
(The real champion was Tommy Burns, currently ranked #3 as a LHW in the PBR)

Sam Langford – Light Heavyweight
Record: 24-1-1 (18)
Title bouts: 3-0 (2)
Country: Canada
Age: 23
(The real champion VACANT)

Charles McCoy – Middleweight
Record: 48-3 (40)
Title bouts: 11-1 (9)
Country: United States
Age: 33
(The real champion was Tommy Ryan, retired from the PBR)

Honey Mellody – Welterweight
Record: 22-4-2 (5)
Title bouts: 1-0
Country: United States
Age: 22
(The real champion was Mellody)

Joe Gans – Lightweight
Record: 50-1 (26)
Title bouts: 15-1 (7)
Country: United States
Age: 31
(The real champion was Gans)

Abe Attell – Featherweight
Record: 26-1 (5)
Title bouts: 4-1 (1)
Country: United States
Age: 22
(The real champion was Attell)

Jimmy Barry – Bantamweight

Record: 46-0 (21)
Title bouts: 12-0 (6)
Country: United States
Age: 36
(The real champion was Jimmy Walsh, currently ranked #8 as a FW in the PBR)
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Schedule of championship bouts in the second half of 1906 – all fights are 15 rounds

Champion Abe Attell...26-1 (5) vs. unranked Frankie Neil...17-8-3 (4)
Featherweight Division
July 4th
*Historical bout
Neil is moving up from BW

Champion Jimmy Barry...46-0 (21) vs. #4 Joe Bowker...20-7-2 (5)
Bantamweight Division
July 15th

Champion Honey Mellody...22-4-2 (5) vs. #4 Billy Gardner...28-8-1 (8)
Welterweight Division
August 8th

Champion Sam Langford...24-1-1 (18) vs. #4 George Gardner...25-4-2 (13)
Light Heavyweight Division
August 10th

Champion Joe Gans...50-1 (26) vs. #1 Battling Nelson...32-4 (8)
Lightweight Division
September 3rd
*Historical bout

Champion Charles McCoy...48-3 (40) vs. #7 Frank Sturgeon...24-18-3 (16)
Middleweight Division
October 9th

Champion Marvin Hart...19-7-2 (6) vs. #8 George Byers...25-11-3 (10)
Heavyweight Division
December 12th

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How close to the end is Barry? I have forgotten what career settings you are using here (or if they are used).

Pretty neat to track along with what the real world looked like.
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How close to the end is Barry? I have forgotten what career settings you are using here (or if they are used).

Pretty neat to track along with what the real world looked like.
Barry actually retired in 1900, so I was going to have him fight one more time and then manually retire him, rather than wait for the computer to do it. He is at post-prime right now. Hopefully he will retire undefeated!
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...July 2, 1906

MW: #8 Harry Peppers 40-10-3 (23) TKO10 #1 Jack Lalor 30-5-1 (14)
  • The veteran Peppers knocks off the number one contender

...July 4, 1906

FW: unranked Frankie Neil 17-8-3 (4) TKO11 Champ Abe Attell 26-1-0 (5)
  • PBR Title bout - Neil moved up from bantamweight
  • Historical bout - Attell by points in 20 rounds for the World Featherweight Title

...July 15, 1906

BW: #4 Joe Bowker 20-7-2 (5) TKO10 Champ Jimmy Barry 46-0-0 (21)
  • PBR Title bout - Bowker upsets the unbeaten Champion

...July 21, 1906

WW: #8 Dixie Kid 21-4-0 (5) TKO6 #1 Mike Sullivan 22-5-2 (4)
  • Another number one contender falls

...July 28, 1906

FW: #11 Watty Austin 21-10-1 (8) UD12 #6 Oscar Gardner 44-8-3 (27)

...July 31, 1906

LW: #2 Arthur Douglas 23-2-1 (8) UD12 #9 Sam Bolen 37-13-3 (5)


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Notable retirement

Jimmy Barry - Bantamweight

His PBR championship fights:
  • June 22, 1900: #1 Jimmy Barry 34-0-0 (15) UD15 #3 Pedlar Palmer 31-4-1 (6) (The title was vacant)
  • November 24, 1900: Champ Jimmy Barry 35-0-0 (15) TKO12 #2 Billy Plimmer 36-9-1 (13)
  • June 1, 1901: Champ Jimmy Barry 36-0-0 (16) TKO7 #5 Jack Kid Madden 18-6-3 (3)
  • October 11, 1901: Champ Jimmy Barry 37-0-0 (17) TKO13 #1 Harry Harris 18-2-2 (4)
  • April 5, 1902: Champ Jimmy Barry 38-0-0 (18) UD15 #1 Billy Plimmer 39-10-1 (13)
  • November 15, 1902: Champ Jimmy Barry 39-0-0 (18) TKO13 #4 Charley Kelly 32-8-0 (20)
  • April 15, 1903: Champ Jimmy Barry 40-0-0 (19) MD15 #1 Harry Harris 21-3-2 (5)
  • September 25, 1903: Champ Jimmy Barry 41-0-0 (19) TKO3 #2 Casper Leon 32-12-3 (14)
  • March 5, 1904: Champ Jimmy Barry 42-0-0 (20) UD15 #5 Owen Moran 17-2-2 (7)
  • November 15, 1904: Champ Jimmy Barry 43-0-0 (20) TKO9 #7 Harry Forbes 14-11-2 (3)
  • May 1, 1905: Champ Jimmy Barry 44-0-0 (21) UD15 #2 Billy Plimmer 45-12-2 (14)
  • November 15, 1905: Champ Jimmy Barry 45-0-0 (21) Tech UD11 #1 Al Delmont 21-1-1 (1)
  • July 15, 1906: #4 Joe Bowker 20-7-2 (5) TKO10 Champ Jimmy Barry 46-0-0 (21)
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Jimmy Barry (born March 7, 1870 in Chicago, Illinois – April 4, 1943) was an Irish-American boxer.

Barry fought out of Chicago and was the best bantamweight and flyweight of his era. He remains one of only nine men to remain undefeated throughout their entire career. Barry won the Bantamweight Championship of the World match five times. On December 6, 1897 in London, England, Barry knocked out Walter Croot in the 16th round to claim the World Bantamweight title for the fifth time. Croot struck his head on the floor and died of a brain injury. Barry was exonerated, but he never knocked a fighter out again.

He was inducted into the International Boxing Hall of Fame in 2000.


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...August 8, 1906

WW: Champ Honey Mellody 22-4-2 (5) MDraw15 #4 Billy Gardner 28-8-1 (8)
  • PBR Title bout - Mellody down three times, Gardner down four times

...August 10, 1906


LHW: Champ Sam Langford 24-1-1 (18) KO2 #4 George Gardner 25-4-2 (13)
  • PBR Title bout - Langford's third straight title defense

...August 28, 1906

WW: #3 Jim Franey 38-7-4 (30) KO4 #6 Matty Matthews 20-11-1 (1)

BW: #7 Harry Forbes 16-15-2 (3) UD12 #8 Casper Leon 34-16-5 (14)


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Barry hung around for one too many.

Very nice job with the replay-RL comparrisons. I like that a lot.
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