World Championships - Page 13

Crimson · 07-26-2009, 02:28 PM

Saturday, September 26th, 1992
MGM Grand Hotel & Casino; Las Vegas, NV
Todd Foster 24-1 (21) Montana WBO
vs.
Tony Lopez 45-3-1 (28) California WBC
- Seating 16,200 people, the MGM Grand Hotel & Casino was jam packed with boxing fans from a wide variety of social and economic backgrounds. Politicians, famous actors and actresses, along with successful businessman filled most of the first 5 ringside rows. The rest of the facility was filled with boxing fans from a wide variety of backgrounds, but with the common interest of wanting to see a good fight. Bob Arum promised that they would be getting plenty of that at the MGM Grand on 9-19-92, and the vast majority were in agreement.
- Larry Merchant and Jim Lamphley called the fight for HBO.
- Tony Lopez was a 5-2 favorite.
- Despite making weight on his first attempt, Foster was battling the scales in the days leading up to the fight. He looked gaunt and drained at the weigh-in.
- The 3 judges were from Nevada, California, Puerto Rico; the referee was Vic Drakulich of Nevada.
- Once again Tony Lopez was seen out and about during the late hours of the night, in the weeks leading up to the fight.
- (Punches landed each round are in parentheses, with the name of the fighter who landed the most listed.)

- RD 1: Foster couldn’t miss with his hook and he blasted Lopez with it repeatedly. (Foster 36-6)
- RD 2: Bell to bell action, with Tony Lopez getting right in Foster’s face. (Lopez 24-21)
- RD 3: The aggression of Lopez was starting to take effect on Foster, who was unable to keep the 5’6” California dynamo off him. (Lopez 36-7)
- RD 4: Lopez continued to be aggressive and walked directly into a scorching Foster right hand that put him on the canvas in a delayed reaction. When he rose at the count of 5, Lopez was badly hurt! (Foster 28-0)
- RD 5: After 4 rounds Ringside Expert Rocco Del Sesto had Foster in front by 1 point, 38-37. A still hurt Lopez moved, grabbed, and did anything that was necessary to stall for time until he had his legs back. Foster became more aggressive, but was unable to get through the Lopez guard. (Lopez 6-1)
- RD 6: A good action round with many exchanges. Both fighters returned to their corner exhausted. (Endurance levels: Foster-2; Lopez-0) (Foster 28-24)
- RD 7: A Foster hook opened up a cut over the right eye of Lopez. The referee gave Lopez his third warning of the fight for fouling. This time for leaning on the neck of Foster. A winging Foster right hand snapped back the head of Lopez. Scoring the fight for HBO PPV was Harold Lederman, who had Foster ahead by 3 points, 68-65.(Foster 36-18)
- RD 8: Trainer Jesse Reid instructed Foster to sit down on his punches and drill Lopez. Cutman Jimmy Montoya did a fantastic job of closing Lopez’ cut. Lopez was doing some of his best work thus far in the fight when Foster opened up and forced the Sacramento native to taste the canvas again. Up quickly at the count of 4, the wobbly legged Lopez was soon sent back down. He struggled mightily to rise and just did so at the count of 8. (Lopez 36-21)
- RD 9: After losing the last round 10-7 on the cards due to going down twice, Lopez knew that he’d have to pull out his best imitation of “Rocky” were he to come back and win. Foster quickly blasted Lopez to the canvas with a right hand, but the game Lopez got up for more and motioned for Foster to bring it on with a smile on his face! Lopez refused to tie Foster up, but did little offensively and was becoming a human punching bag. Somehow he made it to the bell. (Foster 48-6)
- RD 10: Lopez needed a miracle to pull out this fight. “The Tiger” shifted his attack to the body and landed, causing obvious discomfort to Foster. A Foster hook reopened the Lopez cut and with blood streaming down his face, Lopez was brought to the ringside doctor. After about 20 seconds it was determined that Lopez could continue. Lopez did not waste the opportunity and tore into Foster, blasting him with both hands. Foster was hurt! The killer instinct of Lopez kicked in and an uppercut put Foster down!! Up at “3” Foster was on rubber legs. After Foster started to go down again from a Lopez hook, the referee caught him and stopped the fight at 2:30 of the 10th round!
- AMAZING!!! Tony Lopez is proving himself to be a real life Rocky Balboa! His last fight with Miguel Angel Gonzalez was a fight of the year candidate. This fight is going to be a candidate for fight of the decade!
- Foster had been well ahead on the scorecard of all 3 judges: 87-81, 88-90, and 89-79.
- Foster and his camp announced after the fight that he would be moving up to the Jr. Welter weight division. The struggle to make weight had weakened him severely going into the fight.
Tony Lopez TKO10 Todd Foster (wins WBO and defends WBC title)

Crimson · 07-26-2009, 04:31 PM

LIGHT WEIGHT WORLD RANKINGS (as of 12-20-92)

WORLD CHAMPION vacant
1# Segei Aremiev – Russia WBA IBF
2# Tony Lopez – California WBC WBO
3# Jean-Baptiste Mendy – France
4# Miguel Angel Gonzalez – Mexico
5# Freddie Pendleton – Florida
6# Tracy Spann – New Jersey
7# Sharmba Mitchell – Washington DC
8# Joey Gamache – Maine
9# Leavender Johnson – New Jersey
10# Todd Foster – Montana

11# Dingaan Thobela – South Africa
12# Shane Knox – Australia
13# Giovanni Parisi – Italy
14# Rafael Ruelas – California
15# Jorge Paez – Mexico
16# Ricardo Silva – Argentina
17# Aladin Stevens – South Africa
18# Darryl Tyson – Washington DC
19# Chil-Sung Chun – Korea
20# Gussie Nazarov - Russia

FRINGE CONTENDERS:
Ramon Marchena MEX, Chad Broussard LA, Carl Crook ENG, Eduardo Molina COL, Jeff Mayweather MI, Fidel Avendano MEX, Poli Diaz SPA, Renato Cornett AUS, David Sample PA, Julio Ruiz PAN, Miguel Julio COL, Paul Burke ENG, Rowdy Welch CA, Kenny Baysmore NJ, Oscar De La Hoya CA, Eusebio Pedroza PAN, Kelcie Banks CA, Frankie Mitchell PA, Billy Schwer ENG, Michael Ayers ENG, Ray Oliviera MA, John Lark IL, Juan Nazario PUR, Jan Bergman SAF, Lupe Suarez TX, Fabian Tejada ARG, Wilfredo Rocha COL, Mauro Gutierrez MEX, Anthony Boyle PA, Iwao Otomo JAP, Ramon Zavala MEX, Steve Boyle ENG, Rocky Lockridge WA, Bryant Paden PA, Rene Weller GER, Johnny De La Rosa DOM, Tommy Hanks OH,

Crimson · 07-26-2009, 04:41 PM

I'm looking for help at putting together an undercard made up of ranked 1992 Light Weight contenders and/or fringe contenders, that are from the above post. The fights will be on the undercard of this 15 round Light Weight World Championship.

Saturday, December 26th, 1992
Atlantic City Broadwalk Hall; Atlantic City, NJ
Sergei Artemiev 19-1-1 (12) Russia WBA IBF
vs.
Tony Lopez 46-3-1 (29) California WBC WBO

If anyone has any ideas or a suggestion of a fight they'd like to see take place please post it.

Thanks.

Crimson · 08-01-2009, 06:30 PM

Saturday, December 26^th, 1992
Atlantic City Broadwalk Hall; Atlantic City, NJ
Sergei Artemiev 19-1-1 (12) Russia WBA IBF
vs.
Tony Lopez 46-3-1 (29) California WBC WBO
- There was some concern that the cut Lopez suffered in his fight against Todd Foster hadn’t fully healed.
- The 3 judges were from Argentina, Venezuela, and New Jersey; the referee was Larry Hazzard of New Jersey.
- Tony Lopez was listed as a 2-1 faovorite.
- Both fighters entered the ring in perfect shape, with Lopez putting extra time on his conditioning.
(Punches landed numbers for each round are listed in parentheses next to the name of the fighter who landed more punches.)
ROUND 1: In typical Lopez fashion, the hero of Sacramento found himself on the canvas and needing to make a dramatic comeback in order to win. When initially hit by the Artemiev uppercut, Lopez pitched forward landing directly on his face. He looked to be completely out, and it would have been understandable had referee Arthur Mercante Sr. ruled the fight a knockout and ended it right there. However, his veteran experience expertise judgment enabled him to make the right call and give Lopez a chance to get up. On wobbly legs Lopez rose, but managed to indicate that he was ready for more. (Artemiev 43-6)
ROUND 2: Lopez did a good imitation of the Muhammad Ali “rope-a-dope”, while getting his legs back under him. Artemiev seemed unsure of how to attack the passive Lopez and hardly threw any punches all round, allowing Lopez off the hook. (Lopez 13-0)
ROUND 3: A good action round, with Lopez seeming to have recovered from his first round disaster. Lopez was giving his third warning off the fight for fouling, this time for hitting on the break. (Artemiev 28-18)
ROUND 4: More slam bam action in round 4, with Lopez having 1 point deducted by Mercante Sr. for some excessive “holding and hitting”. (Lopez 36-21)
ROUND 5: Like two bulls the fighters met at center ring in battle of wills to back the other up. Neither took a backward step, but it was Lopez who initiated some holding, after some Artemiev left and rights caught him flush. (Artemiev 43-36)
ROUND 6: Ringside Expert Mike Hanson had Artemiev ahead by 2 points, 48-46, entering round 6. Neither fighter had a mark on their face. Punches landed favored Artemiev 135-109. Lopez attempted to box from the outside, but was not allowed to as Artemiev applied non-stop pressure and forced Lopez to eventually stand his ground along the ropes and punch back. The punches of Artemiev were beginning to snap back the head of Lopez and blood was spewing from his mouth. At 2:54 of the round with Lopez absorbing punch after punch, while pinned against the ropes, referee Arthur Mercante Sr. stopped the fight, declaring that Sergei Artemiev was the LIGHT WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPION!
Sergei Artemiev TKO6 Tony Lopez (wins LIGHT WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP)
POST FIGHT: All 3 judges had Artemiev ahead at the time of the stoppage 48-45, 49-44, and 49-45. There was no complaint by Lopez or his camp regarding the stoppage. When interviewed by Larry Merchant after the fight Artemiev was non-committal about who he’d fight next, saying that was up to his management team and he wanted to take a brief vacation with his wife and infant son. The management of Artemiev expressed little concern with making a future defense against the new 1# Mandatory Contender Tracy Spann, pointing out “Spann lost a 10 round unanimous decision to the guy Sergei just destroyed. Why should we be worried about Spann?”

UNDERCARD
6# Tracy Spann 27-2 (17) New Jersey
vs. (12 rounds, for the new 1# mandatory contender ranking)
9# Leavender Johnson 17-0 (13) New Jersey
- There was some complaining from within the boxing community, and by the camps of fighters ranked higher than Spann or Johnson, that they should be in the fight to determine the new 1# Light Weight division contender. A battle between #3 Jean-Baptiste Mendy and 4# Miguel Angel Gonzalez was argued as the most logical pairing. Others argued that a fight to determine the new 1# Mandatory contender should not be fought until after the Artemiev-Lopez Championship match, as the loser of that fight might be deserving of fighting to become the new mandatory. As good as those arguments were, in the end they didn’t matter, as the promoter of the fight, Don King, was allowed to determine who’d be in that matchup. The only stipulation being both fighters had to be ranked in the top 10#. Don King selected Tracy Spann and Leavender Johnson, primarily since both are from New Jersey and it would increase the attendance, along with adding to the local New Jersey boxing buzz.
- The hard punching Johnson had looked very impressive in recent outings, and appeared to have the making of a future World Champion. This lead to him being a 2-1 favorite.
- In a fantastic fight, that had the fans on their feet throughout, Tracy Spann and Leavander Johnson puton a brawl that will be remembered for many years by New Jersey boxing fans. Johnson was ahead on the scorecards 67-64, 67-66, and 67-66, with punches landed also favoring Johnson 247 to 176, when Tracy Spann knocked Johnson out at 2:22 of round 8 with a humungous uppercut.
- Spann had 1 point deducted in round 6 by the referee for a low blow.
- Spann is now the 1# Mandatory Contender, and must receive a shot at the World Championship by 12-26-93. He was awarded with a giant silver trophy in the ring, once the decision had been announced, that represents his standing as the 1# contender for the LIGHT WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP.
Tracy Spann KO8 Leavander Johnson

8# Joey Gamache 29-1 (18) Maine
vs. (10 rounds)
Rocky Lockridge 44-9 (36) New Jersey
- After losing wide decisions earlier in the year to contenders Sharmba Mitchell and Rafael Ruelas, there were some who thought it was time for Lockridge to retire.
- Gamache dished out a beating to Lockridge over 10 rounds, handily winning a unanimous decision by the scores of 89-90, 97-90, and 96-92.
- Lockridge did manage to explode with a left hook out of no man’s land in round 3 to put Gamache down hard, but that would be his only moment of glory in the fight.
- In round 5 the referee deducted 1 point from Lockridge for headbutting.
- Gamache floored Lockridge in round 6, and by the end of the fight the Duva fighter’s right eye was partly closed (7).
Rocky Lockridge vs. Juan LaPorte
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOepBl51UbE&feature=related
Rocky Lockridge vs. Julio Cesar Chavez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73pHX8u7Hjc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVb_-U3D91A&feature=related
Rocky Lockridge vs. Roger Mayweather
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxcYHe4Xj4I
Rocky Lockridge 2009 video on being homeless
http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger/2009/06/former_boxing_champ_rocky_lock.html

Anthony Boyle 22-3-1 (11) Pennsylvania
vs. (10 rounds)
12# Shane Knox 17-1-2 (10) Australia
- Shane Knox represented Australia as a feather weight in the 1988 Olympic Games. He had temporarily retired in 1991, but came back earlier this year to fight in the “Team Championship” fights. With less than 17 fights at the time, Knox performed respectably (Wm4 Rafael Ruelas, Lm4 Carl Crook, D4 Ricardo Silva, and D4 Jorge Paez), but not well enough for an invitation to the "Light Weight World Championship Tournament". He was hoping that a win over the well respected fringe contender, Anthony Boyle, would vault him from 12# ranked into the top 10#.
- Anthony Boyle was coming off an 11^th round stoppage loss against Frankie Mitchell, for the NABF title in June. Boyle had plenty of fans travel in from Pennsylvania to cheer him on.
- The comebacking Knox was a 3-1 favorite to defeat Boyle.
- Boyle dug himself a hole, losing the first 4 rounds, that he never was able to overcome on the scorecards. Neither fighter was down, cut, or bruised. Boyle threw punches in bunches down the stretch, but it was a case of too little too late. The judges had it split: 97-93 Boyle (what!), and 97-93, 97-95 for Knox.
Shane Knox Ws10 Anthony Boyle

Crimson · 08-04-2009, 03:40 AM

Odds of winning the Jr. Welter Weight World Championship Tournament
2-1 Julio Cesar Chavez 78-1 (66) Mexico WBC
3-1 Pernell Whitaker 32-1 (17) Virginia
6-1 Hector Camacho 43-2 (17) Puerto Rico
8-1 Edwin Rosario 45-5 (36) Puerto Rico (post-prime)
10-1 Carlos Gonzales 30-0 (29) Mexico WBO
12-1 Juan Coggi 58-3-3 (31) Argentina
15-1 Rafael Pineda 27-2-2 (25) Columbia IBF
20-1 Terrence Alli 50-7-2 (21) Guyana
20-1 Charles Murray 25-1-1 (17) New York
30-1 Andy Holligan 20-1 (13) England
35-1 Akinobu Hiranaka 20-1 (18) Japan WBA
40-1 Morris East 14-2 (8) Philippines (pre-prime)

Crimson · 08-04-2009, 03:51 AM

jdphx · 08-05-2009, 04:02 PM

WOW!!!!

What a shocker! I thought Sweet Pea vs JC Chavez
was almost a given here...

Who now??

Macho??

Coggi??

I'd say maybe Rosario if he weren't Post Prime....

Infinity · 08-05-2009, 04:52 PM

Holy Sweet Pea Soup Batman! That surely changes the makeup of the tourney. I'll go with Hector "Macho" Camacho against Julio Cesar Chavez in the finals if they're set up correctly. Chavez winning it all in the long run.

PWillisTheMan · 08-05-2009, 11:05 PM

That hurts my heart. Where is Randall?

Crimson · 08-06-2009, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdphx

WOW!!!!

What a shocker! I thought Sweet Pea vs JC Chavez
was almost a given here...

Who now??

Macho??

Coggi??

I'd say maybe Rosario if he weren't Post Prime....

Rosario looks like he has a good shot at getting to the World Championship 15 rd Final. First up for him is Andy Holligan 20-1 (13) in England. If he wins, then Rafael Pineda for the IBF belt. Despite being Post-Prime I think Rosario those are winnable fights for "Chapo".

I'll be running the Rosario-Holligan fight later tonight. Odds are listed as EVEN, with the fight taking place at the "Everton Park Sports Centre" in Liverpool, England (6-6-92). If Rosario beats Holligan and then Pineda, he'll take on the winner of Juan Coggi vs. Akinobu Hiranaka in an IBF/WBA unification.

I'm guessing it will be Rosario vs. Coggi evenutally, but ......I NEVER, NEVER, EVER, COULD HAVE FORESEEN the Coggi upset of Whitaker.

So.... who knows what will actually end up happening.

Akinobu Hiranaka vs. Morris East for all the marbles?

Crimson · 08-06-2009, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infinity

Holy Sweet Pea Soup Batman! That surely changes the makeup of the tourney. I'll go with Hector "Macho" Camacho against Julio Cesar Chavez in the finals if they're set up correctly. Chavez winning it all in the long run.

This is the biggest upset I've had yet in this universe. When I read that Whitaker went down late in the first I thought something like, "WOW! A flash knockdown of Whitaker in the first! Didn't see that happening. This might be a good fight. He' still down at 5? Wow."

A few seconds later I was reading, "Whitaker makes it to a knee at the count of 8 but he's still struggling to get his legs under him! Whitaker is having a hard time keeping his feet under him as he pulls himself up off the canvas. Wolleson wipes off Whitaker's gloves and waves the fighters together. Coggi lands punch after punch. Wolleson wraps his arms around Pernell Whitaker...He's saving him from further punishment. It's a TKO win for Coggi!"

It happened so suddenly. Just sat for a bit rereading it going, "Huh." I went and double checked my ratings for both, thinking, "was that really PERNELL WHITAKER?" It was. Was his PRIME light weight rating of 13, from TBCB3 DB Team.

As for Camacho-Chavez, they will meet in the Quarter Finals if Camacho beats Morris East 14-2 (8). I plan on running that fight tonight, takes place at the "Roberto Clemente Stadium" in Carolina, Puerto Rico.

My pick to win it all is also Chavez. Then again, he was defeated in a 4 round bout earlier in this universe against Camacho! The fight was fairly even, when mid way through round 2 Chavez was cut badly over the right eye and lost on a TKO because of it!

Attached are the tournament seedings. If your interested in seeing them, but unable to open it, let me know and I'll try to put up another form of the bracket that is readable.

Infinity · 08-06-2009, 08:13 PM

There's a big difference between a 4 rounder and a 12 or 15 rounder. The fact is, I've always felt that 4 rounders are a waste of time in developement of a fighter as you can't really see their skills.

Infinity · 08-06-2009, 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Crimson

This is the biggest upset I've had yet in this universe. When I read that Whitaker went down late in the first I thought something like, "WOW! A flash knockdown of Whitaker in the first! Didn't see that happening. This might be a good fight. He' still down at 5? Wow."

A few seconds later I was reading, "Whitaker makes it to a knee at the count of 8 but he's still struggling to get his legs under him! Whitaker is having a hard time keeping his feet under him as he pulls himself up off the canvas. Wolleson wipes off Whitaker's gloves and waves the fighters together. Coggi lands punch after punch. Wolleson wraps his arms around Pernell Whitaker...He's saving him from further punishment. It's a TKO win for Coggi!"

It happened so suddenly. Just sat for a bit rereading it going, "Huh." I went and double checked my ratings for both, thinking, "was that really PERNELL WHITAKER?" It was. Was his PRIME light weight rating of 13, from TBCB3 DB Team.

As for Camacho-Chavez, they will meet in the Quarter Finals if Camacho beats Morris East 14-2 (8). I plan on running that fight tonight, takes place at the "Roberto Clemente Stadium" in Carolina, Puerto Rico.

My pick to win it all is also Chavez. Then again, he was defeated in a 4 round bout earlier in this universe against Camacho! The fight was fairly even, when mid way through round 2 Chavez was cut badly over the right eye and lost on a TKO because of it!

Attached are the tournament seedings. If your interested in seeing them, but unable to open it, let me know and I'll try to put up another form of the bracket that is readable.

Looking at the brackets you posted, I see Camacho vs Chavez in the quarter-finals along with Coggi vs Rosario. Chavez vs Rosario in the finals with Chavez winning all the marbles.

Crimson · 08-06-2009, 08:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PWillisTheMan

That hurts my heart. Where is Randall?

I gave putting Frankie Randall consideration for being in the tourney. It seems like he belongs! However, looking at the "Ring Magazine" ratings in the Jr. Welter Weight division from April 15,1992 and Randall is not there. He doesn't appear as ranked Jr. Welter by "Ring Magazine" until March 17, 1993, after he stopped Edwin Rosario in 7.

I've tried to connect this universe historically with how the fighters were doing and ranked in 1992. At that time, Randall really hadn't done that much as a Jr. Welter. His biggest Jr. Welter wins then being an 8 round decision over Rodolfo Aguilar and a 10 round decision over Jerry Page.

Crimson · 08-06-2009, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infinity

There's a big difference between a 4 rounder and a 12 or 15 rounder.

Absolutely! I agree fully. Especially, with the world class fighters, some of whom don't reach max ability until after round 4!

When I started this universe, I'd only expected it to take a few weeks and thought having the initial part of it just be 4 rounders would take less time and whet my appetite for testing the waters of posting a Universe. I think that was back in April.

Crimson · 08-06-2009, 10:14 PM

Thursday, June 4^th, 1992
Gleason’s Arena; Brooklyn, NY
Terrence Alli 50-7-2 (21) Guyana
vs.
Charles Murray 25-1-1 (17) New York
- In the May of 1991 Terrence Alli had beaten Charles “The Natural” Murray in Murray’s hometown of Rochester, NY over 12 rounds for the NABF title. The rematch was to be fought in Alli’s adopted hometown of Brooklyn, NY. There were expected to by many Guyanese present cheering on their fellow countryman, Terrence Alli.
- The odds were EVEN who would win this rematch.
- All 1,100 seats were sold out and the atmosphere inside the small venue was electric. The vast majority of the paid customers were cheering themselves hoarse for Alli, prior to the fight even starting!
- True to his tradition, Alli ran across the ring at the bell and attacked Murray. “The Natural” was ready and with swift movement of his feet fired a hard right off the top of Alli’s head. A hard right from Alli stunned Murray and Gleason’s went nuts. It was so loud the referee couldn’t hear the bell and the round lasted an additional 10 seconds.
- The slick Murray was boxing beautiful and causing problems for Alli, when he was caught by a short right and fell to the canvas. Up at 7 Murray was hurt bad. It was to be the high water mark off the fight for Alli.
- For the remainder of the fight Murray did plenty of holding and clinching, but he was effective at nullifying Alli’s attack. From the outside he was able to pick the charging Alli apart. Punches landed numbers favored Murray by a wide margin of 271-162. Murray landed an incredible 56% of his punches thrown! Ringside Expert Mirco Mizero had it close for Murray at 96-94. Ring Announcer Frank Shain delivered the decision to a crowd who knew what to expect, but still held out hope for something else. The 3 official judges all had Murray the winner at 96-93, 97-94, and 96-95.
- Murray will next have the unenviable task of taking on the undefeated knockout machine Carlos Gonzalez for the WBO title.
Charles Murray Wu10 Terrence Alli

Terrence Alli vs. Julio Cesar Chavez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_Gc4WEeftQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VspwMM3wNyI&feature=related

Charles Murray interview
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aebIv7y2BsI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDzWrH4jonY&feature=related

Charles Murray vs. Mickey Ward
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juy3Gk6UySs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMy6SkXfS2Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqj-7sG_a64&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QpSiFB4tk0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0P4EpofJ4k&feature=related

Charles Murray vs. Salvador Villa
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_7BqVIWsss

Crimson · 08-06-2009, 10:23 PM

Saturday, June 6^th, 1992
Everton Park Sports Centre; Liverpool, England
Andy Holligan 20-1 (13) England
vs.
Edwin Rosario 45-5 (36) Puerto Rico
- Odds are EVEN.
- Fighting almost exclusively out of a crablike shell, Holligan produced little offense, but did manage to frustrate the bombing Rosario throughout. Still at the fight’s conclusion most had Rosario the winner by a wide margin.
- Holligan surprised Rosario with an offensive attack in round 9, managing to cause puffiness around the former world title holder’s right eye (4). By this time in the fight Holligan’s own left eye (15) was virtually closed. Holligan employed the same strategy with success in the final round, but still did not do enough to win on the scorecard of television analyst Jim Watt, which had Rosario the winner 97-93.
- Punch stat totals favored Rosario slightly 230-224. The referee was the lone scoring judge in the contest and had it…..96-95….for EDWIN ROSARIO!!
“Chapo” will now challenge Rafael Pineda in July for the IBF title at Puerto Rico’s “Hiram Bithorn” stadium.
Edwin Rosario W10 Andy Holligan

Andy Holligan vs. Julio Cesar Chavez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AAGJRcQJzs

Edwin Rosario vs. Edwin Viruet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4zao_ZivU&feature=related

Edwin Rosario vs. Jose Luis Ramirez I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsytjJCO2o&feature=related

Edwin Rosario vs. Hector Camacho
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8VArgF5aY0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFMkXq_C8G0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEEclKo9Ry8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okew_k9SQqc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM53luI1260&feature=related

Edwin Rosario vs. Livingstone Bramble
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YELj4NMeQ8s&feature=related

Crimson · 08-06-2009, 11:09 PM

Saturday, June 6^th, 1992
Roberto Clemente Stadium; Carolina, Puerto Rico
Hector Camacho 43-3 (17) Puerto Rico
vs.
Morris East 14-2 (8) Philippines
- Hector Camacho was a 2-1 favorite.
- For 10 round the “Macho Man” danced, shuffled, laughed, moon walked, and slipped punches. When not doing one of those activities he’d pop Morris East on route to winning a wide unanimous decision (99-91, 97-92, and 99-90). While not the most appealing fight to watch for boxing purists, there were enough Hector Camacho fans in attendance who appreciated his act to not boo him out of the ring.
- Camacho floored East in round 9, but then proceeded to dance away any opportunity he had of scoring a stoppage, while giving his best imitation of a hula hoop dancer to the crowd.
- Next up for Camacho is Vegas rematch with Julio Cesar Chavez for the WBC title. Earlier this year Camacho stopped Chavez in the second round due to a cut, in a 4 round fight. Says Camacho, "I am the only one who can beat him. I'm the only one who's got the right style. Stick and move great defense, lateral movement, use the whole ring, stick and hold, throw him off his plan. It's MACHO TIME!"
- Watching Camacho-East from Mexico, Chavez responded to Camacho's comments with, "Camacho is full of bull. He thinks he is king, but he is nothing."
Hector Camacho Wu10 Morris East

Crimson · 08-08-2009, 12:38 PM

Friday, July 3^rd, 1992
Las Vegas Hilton; Las Vegas, NV
Julio Cesar Chavez 78-1 (66) Mexico WBC
vs
Hector Camacho 44-2 (17) Puerto Rico
AND
Carlos Gonzales 30-0 (29) Mexico WBO
vs.
Charles Murray 26-1-1 (17) New York
- Odds were even for the Chavez-Camacho match.
- All 14,000 seats at the “Las Vegas Hilton” were sold for this highly anticipated matchup. A rematch clause was in place for a 3^rd meeting between the two down the road.
- Chavez was looking forward to proving his previous loss, due to a 2^nd round cut, had been a fluke. The “Macho Man” was convinced that he had the style, brains, and skills to once again defeat the Mexican legend.
- Said Chavez before the fight, “I have dedicated this fight to the president and people of Mexico. They will lynch me if I lose!”
ROUND 1: An aggressive Chavez had a hard time catching Camacho. Referee Mills Lane issued a stern warning to Camacho for holding and hitting. Camacho was successful at hitting and not being hit, utilizing movement and holding. (Camacho 31-8)

ROUND 2: More of the same from Camacho and Chavez. (Camacho 14-5)

ROUND 3: Finally the intense pressure of Chavez showed signs that it was getting through. Camacho was noticeably slower and Chavez’ body shots were getting through. (Chavez 20-7)

ROUND 4: Best action of the fight so far! The 14,000 boxing fans were on their feet as Chavez pinned Camacho to the ropes with brutal combinations, only to see “Macho” spin away and counter with blistering combinations! (Camacho 38-27)

ROUND 5: After 4 rounds, 2 of the 3 official judges had Camacho ahead. Chavez was a bulldozer and unstoppable with his attack. By the round’s conclusion Camacho was breathing through his mouth and looking tired. (Chavez 26-8)

ROUND 6: After 5 rounds, Ringside Expert Mark Somogyi had Camacho ahead by 1 point, 48-47. The punches landed department favored Camacho also 98 to 86. Chavez hurt Camacho early in the round and refused to allow Camacho to tie him up, forcing him to fight back. The crowd roared in approval, but it was not beneficial for Camacho to be in this kind of fight. (Chavez 52-15)

ROUND 7: Referee Mill Lane followed the still hurt Camacho back to his corner in between rounds and was told by Camacho’s trainer, Hector Roca, “He’s okay!” Camacho showed plenty of heart as took tremendous punishment from Chavez, who seemed to be getting stronger. Camacho no longer had the legs to move out of range and repeatedly found himself against the ropes, where Chavez pounded his body. (Chavez 45-29)

ROUND 8: Camacho was falling into a defensive shell and his ring movement had been reduced to a minimum. On the scorecard of Ringside Expert Mark Somogyi, Chavez had taken the last 4 rounds and was ahead 77-75.

ROUND 9: The fight was turning into a mugging. A sharp uppercut from Chavez deposited Camacho on his ass for the count of 5. The left eye of Camacho (7) was now ½ closed. (Chavez 32-0)

ROUND 10: Camacho found a 2^nd wind somewhere and managed to make Chavez miss, while countering with soft shots of his own, to maybe win the round. (Camacho 20-15)

ROUND 11: Chavez was looking to remove the head of Camacho from his shoulders, but Camacho slipped and avoided most of the blows. Still the beat down of the “Macho” continued. (Chavez 19-11)

ROUND 12: An off balance Camacho stumbled to the canvas after taking a Chavez right to the temple. Up at “7” Camacho nodded to Lane that he could continue. Shortly before the bell sounded to end the fight Camacho was briefly down again, courtesy of a right hand. (Chavez 20-7)

DECISION: The judges decision was a mere formality, as even Camacho recognized that Chavez had won the fight. Michael Buffer made it official by announcing the unanimous decision win for Chavez by scores of 117-108, 116-108, and 116-109. Julio Cesar Chavez will nex face the newly crowned WBO belt holder Charles Murray in a WBC/WBO unification match. Chavez had praise for Camacho after the fight, “He turned out to be a better fighter than I expected. He’s not the feminine fighter I thought he would be. He really took a lot of punches. I have to give him credit. He had a lot of heart.” Camacho was humble in defeat, “It was the first time I fought a guy with that much courage. I couldn’t keep Julio off. The pressure he put on me was amazing. He won it, no doubt.”
Julio Cesar Chavez Wu12 Hector Camacho (defends WBC title)

[The above quotes are from before and after their actual September 1992 fight. This TBCB fight was very similar to what actually did take place when Chavez and Camacho fought.]

- Charles Murray was a 2-1 favorite in his undercard matchup with Carlos Gonzalez.
- Gonzalez had to make two attempts to make the 140 pound limit after he came in at 141 on the first attempt. Murray put in extra time doing road work and his trainer, Tommy Brooks, says he is in the best shape of his life.
- Despite Gonzalez’ impressive record his most impressive win to date was his recent 2^nd round stoppage of Jimmy Paul to win the WBO belt.
- The first 4 rounds all belonged to Murray as the slick right hander moved and jabbed. Gonzalez’ punches repeatedly fell short of landing. In round 5 Gonzalez finally started to get through and stunned Murray on at least one occasion. A small mouse could be seen under the right eye (1) of Murray after 6 rounds. Ringside Expert Mark Jones had Murray in front by 1 point, 58-57. Punches landed numbers favored Murray 154-129.
- Entering round 7 Gonzalez appeared to be a very tired fighter, while Murray looked as fresh a loaf bread coming out of the oven. In round 8 Murray resumed control with some laser strike right hands.
- In round 11 a tremendous Murray dig to the ribs of Gonzalez put the Mexican down for the count of 10.
Charles Murray KO11 Carlos Gonzalez (wins WBO title)

Hector Camacho vs. Julio Cesar Chavez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGKCTJjoVcg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xtkh7PH2kI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1MEDJamtTo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApKPOtK2x4Q&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPon20ekfAg&feature=related

Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Ruben Castillo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1g6yYWZJJk&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPX53vJrsnU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGw1hebsevE&feature=related

Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Roger Mayweather II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gqkvEkyxd8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt4LFAGKJ4s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oqzzM_vXFo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4OW94H8lPw&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otG6YM4Rxxc&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uLx1GalhfM&feature=related

Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Jose Luis Ramirez
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neoUsj6PDVc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neoUsj6PDVc&feature=related

Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Frankie Mitchell
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe9-rHx3IE4&feature=related

Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Greg Haugen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdtiqU_3EY8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTXF_hvAwkE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl5W8oYUhd4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAAoBtS8G8s&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxu8frKEB8E&feature=related

Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Oscar De La Hoya I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX0c3v2D5ZQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQvokpFulps&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvsJ1TBs5pU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA4Xk7b2jw4&feature=related

Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Oscar De La Hoya II
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VJz6WmPSNo&feature=related

Carlos Gonzalez vs. Randall Bailey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiyBaFo1WPY

Infinity · 08-08-2009, 01:09 PM

Remember when I said a 4 round decision didn't mean much?...that's because Chavez was a notorious slow starter, whereas Camacho was well known for being a fast starter. Things went just about the way I figured they would...Now Chavez goes on to win it all!

07-26-2009, 04:31 PM	#242 (permalink)
Crimson All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 996 Thanks: 682 Thanked 54x in 51 posts	Light Weight World Rankings December 1992 LIGHT WEIGHT WORLD RANKINGS (as of 12-20-92) WORLD CHAMPION vacant 1# Segei Aremiev – Russia WBA IBF 2# Tony Lopez – California WBC WBO 3# Jean-Baptiste Mendy – France 4# Miguel Angel Gonzalez – Mexico 5# Freddie Pendleton – Florida 6# Tracy Spann – New Jersey 7# Sharmba Mitchell – Washington DC 8# Joey Gamache – Maine 9# Leavender Johnson – New Jersey 10# Todd Foster – Montana 11# Dingaan Thobela – South Africa 12# Shane Knox – Australia 13# Giovanni Parisi – Italy 14# Rafael Ruelas – California 15# Jorge Paez – Mexico 16# Ricardo Silva – Argentina 17# Aladin Stevens – South Africa 18# Darryl Tyson – Washington DC 19# Chil-Sung Chun – Korea 20# Gussie Nazarov - Russia FRINGE CONTENDERS: Ramon Marchena MEX, Chad Broussard LA, Carl Crook ENG, Eduardo Molina COL, Jeff Mayweather MI, Fidel Avendano MEX, Poli Diaz SPA, Renato Cornett AUS, David Sample PA, Julio Ruiz PAN, Miguel Julio COL, Paul Burke ENG, Rowdy Welch CA, Kenny Baysmore NJ, Oscar De La Hoya CA, Eusebio Pedroza PAN, Kelcie Banks CA, Frankie Mitchell PA, Billy Schwer ENG, Michael Ayers ENG, Ray Oliviera MA, John Lark IL, Juan Nazario PUR, Jan Bergman SAF, Lupe Suarez TX, Fabian Tejada ARG, Wilfredo Rocha COL, Mauro Gutierrez MEX, Anthony Boyle PA, Iwao Otomo JAP, Ramon Zavala MEX, Steve Boyle ENG, Rocky Lockridge WA, Bryant Paden PA, Rene Weller GER, Johnny De La Rosa DOM, Tommy Hanks OH,

07-26-2009, 04:41 PM	#243 (permalink)
Crimson All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 996 Thanks: 682 Thanked 54x in 51 posts	Looking for help..... I'm looking for help at putting together an undercard made up of ranked 1992 Light Weight contenders and/or fringe contenders, that are from the above post. The fights will be on the undercard of this 15 round Light Weight World Championship. Saturday, December 26th, 1992 Atlantic City Broadwalk Hall; Atlantic City, NJ Sergei Artemiev 19-1-1 (12) Russia WBA IBF vs. Tony Lopez 46-3-1 (29) California WBC WBO If anyone has any ideas or a suggestion of a fight they'd like to see take place please post it. Thanks. Last edited by Crimson; 07-26-2009 at 04:46 PM.

08-01-2009, 06:30 PM	#244 (permalink)
Crimson All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 996 Thanks: 682 Thanked 54x in 51 posts	Light weight world championship Saturday, December 26^th, 1992 Atlantic City Broadwalk Hall; Atlantic City, NJ Sergei Artemiev 19-1-1 (12) Russia WBA IBF vs. Tony Lopez 46-3-1 (29) California WBC WBO - There was some concern that the cut Lopez suffered in his fight against Todd Foster hadn’t fully healed. - The 3 judges were from Argentina, Venezuela, and New Jersey; the referee was Larry Hazzard of New Jersey. - Tony Lopez was listed as a 2-1 faovorite. - Both fighters entered the ring in perfect shape, with Lopez putting extra time on his conditioning. (Punches landed numbers for each round are listed in parentheses next to the name of the fighter who landed more punches.) ROUND 1: In typical Lopez fashion, the hero of Sacramento found himself on the canvas and needing to make a dramatic comeback in order to win. When initially hit by the Artemiev uppercut, Lopez pitched forward landing directly on his face. He looked to be completely out, and it would have been understandable had referee Arthur Mercante Sr. ruled the fight a knockout and ended it right there. However, his veteran experience expertise judgment enabled him to make the right call and give Lopez a chance to get up. On wobbly legs Lopez rose, but managed to indicate that he was ready for more. (Artemiev 43-6) ROUND 2: Lopez did a good imitation of the Muhammad Ali “rope-a-dope”, while getting his legs back under him. Artemiev seemed unsure of how to attack the passive Lopez and hardly threw any punches all round, allowing Lopez off the hook. (Lopez 13-0) ROUND 3: A good action round, with Lopez seeming to have recovered from his first round disaster. Lopez was giving his third warning off the fight for fouling, this time for hitting on the break. (Artemiev 28-18) ROUND 4: More slam bam action in round 4, with Lopez having 1 point deducted by Mercante Sr. for some excessive “holding and hitting”. (Lopez 36-21) ROUND 5: Like two bulls the fighters met at center ring in battle of wills to back the other up. Neither took a backward step, but it was Lopez who initiated some holding, after some Artemiev left and rights caught him flush. (Artemiev 43-36) ROUND 6: Ringside Expert Mike Hanson had Artemiev ahead by 2 points, 48-46, entering round 6. Neither fighter had a mark on their face. Punches landed favored Artemiev 135-109. Lopez attempted to box from the outside, but was not allowed to as Artemiev applied non-stop pressure and forced Lopez to eventually stand his ground along the ropes and punch back. The punches of Artemiev were beginning to snap back the head of Lopez and blood was spewing from his mouth. At 2:54 of the round with Lopez absorbing punch after punch, while pinned against the ropes, referee Arthur Mercante Sr. stopped the fight, declaring that Sergei Artemiev was the LIGHT WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPION! Sergei Artemiev TKO6 Tony Lopez (wins LIGHT WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP) POST FIGHT: All 3 judges had Artemiev ahead at the time of the stoppage 48-45, 49-44, and 49-45. There was no complaint by Lopez or his camp regarding the stoppage. When interviewed by Larry Merchant after the fight Artemiev was non-committal about who he’d fight next, saying that was up to his management team and he wanted to take a brief vacation with his wife and infant son. The management of Artemiev expressed little concern with making a future defense against the new 1# Mandatory Contender Tracy Spann, pointing out “Spann lost a 10 round unanimous decision to the guy Sergei just destroyed. Why should we be worried about Spann?” UNDERCARD 6# Tracy Spann 27-2 (17) New Jersey vs. (12 rounds, for the new 1# mandatory contender ranking) 9# Leavender Johnson 17-0 (13) New Jersey - There was some complaining from within the boxing community, and by the camps of fighters ranked higher than Spann or Johnson, that they should be in the fight to determine the new 1# Light Weight division contender. A battle between #3 Jean-Baptiste Mendy and 4# Miguel Angel Gonzalez was argued as the most logical pairing. Others argued that a fight to determine the new 1# Mandatory contender should not be fought until after the Artemiev-Lopez Championship match, as the loser of that fight might be deserving of fighting to become the new mandatory. As good as those arguments were, in the end they didn’t matter, as the promoter of the fight, Don King, was allowed to determine who’d be in that matchup. The only stipulation being both fighters had to be ranked in the top 10#. Don King selected Tracy Spann and Leavender Johnson, primarily since both are from New Jersey and it would increase the attendance, along with adding to the local New Jersey boxing buzz. - The hard punching Johnson had looked very impressive in recent outings, and appeared to have the making of a future World Champion. This lead to him being a 2-1 favorite. - In a fantastic fight, that had the fans on their feet throughout, Tracy Spann and Leavander Johnson puton a brawl that will be remembered for many years by New Jersey boxing fans. Johnson was ahead on the scorecards 67-64, 67-66, and 67-66, with punches landed also favoring Johnson 247 to 176, when Tracy Spann knocked Johnson out at 2:22 of round 8 with a humungous uppercut. - Spann had 1 point deducted in round 6 by the referee for a low blow. - Spann is now the 1# Mandatory Contender, and must receive a shot at the World Championship by 12-26-93. He was awarded with a giant silver trophy in the ring, once the decision had been announced, that represents his standing as the 1# contender for the LIGHT WEIGHT WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP. Tracy Spann KO8 Leavander Johnson 8# Joey Gamache 29-1 (18) Maine vs. (10 rounds) Rocky Lockridge 44-9 (36) New Jersey - After losing wide decisions earlier in the year to contenders Sharmba Mitchell and Rafael Ruelas, there were some who thought it was time for Lockridge to retire. - Gamache dished out a beating to Lockridge over 10 rounds, handily winning a unanimous decision by the scores of 89-90, 97-90, and 96-92. - Lockridge did manage to explode with a left hook out of no man’s land in round 3 to put Gamache down hard, but that would be his only moment of glory in the fight. - In round 5 the referee deducted 1 point from Lockridge for headbutting. - Gamache floored Lockridge in round 6, and by the end of the fight the Duva fighter’s right eye was partly closed (7). Rocky Lockridge vs. Juan LaPorte http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOepBl51UbE&feature=related Rocky Lockridge vs. Julio Cesar Chavez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73pHX8u7Hjc&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVb_-U3D91A&feature=related Rocky Lockridge vs. Roger Mayweather http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxcYHe4Xj4I Rocky Lockridge 2009 video on being homeless http://videos.nj.com/star-ledger/2009/06/former_boxing_champ_rocky_lock.html Anthony Boyle 22-3-1 (11) Pennsylvania vs. (10 rounds) 12# Shane Knox 17-1-2 (10) Australia - Shane Knox represented Australia as a feather weight in the 1988 Olympic Games. He had temporarily retired in 1991, but came back earlier this year to fight in the “Team Championship” fights. With less than 17 fights at the time, Knox performed respectably (Wm4 Rafael Ruelas, Lm4 Carl Crook, D4 Ricardo Silva, and D4 Jorge Paez), but not well enough for an invitation to the "Light Weight World Championship Tournament". He was hoping that a win over the well respected fringe contender, Anthony Boyle, would vault him from 12# ranked into the top 10#. - Anthony Boyle was coming off an 11^th round stoppage loss against Frankie Mitchell, for the NABF title in June. Boyle had plenty of fans travel in from Pennsylvania to cheer him on. - The comebacking Knox was a 3-1 favorite to defeat Boyle. - Boyle dug himself a hole, losing the first 4 rounds, that he never was able to overcome on the scorecards. Neither fighter was down, cut, or bruised. Boyle threw punches in bunches down the stretch, but it was a case of too little too late. The judges had it split: 97-93 Boyle (what!), and 97-93, 97-95 for Knox. Shane Knox Ws10 Anthony Boyle Attached Images

08-04-2009, 03:40 AM	#245 (permalink)
Crimson All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 996 Thanks: 682 Thanked 54x in 51 posts	Odds of winning the 1992 Jr. Welter Weight World Championship Odds of winning the Jr. Welter Weight World Championship Tournament 2-1 Julio Cesar Chavez 78-1 (66) Mexico WBC 3-1 Pernell Whitaker 32-1 (17) Virginia 6-1 Hector Camacho 43-2 (17) Puerto Rico 8-1 Edwin Rosario 45-5 (36) Puerto Rico (post-prime) 10-1 Carlos Gonzales 30-0 (29) Mexico WBO 12-1 Juan Coggi 58-3-3 (31) Argentina 15-1 Rafael Pineda 27-2-2 (25) Columbia IBF 20-1 Terrence Alli 50-7-2 (21) Guyana 20-1 Charles Murray 25-1-1 (17) New York 30-1 Andy Holligan 20-1 (13) England 35-1 Akinobu Hiranaka 20-1 (18) Japan WBA 40-1 Morris East 14-2 (8) Philippines (pre-prime)

08-05-2009, 04:52 PM	#248 (permalink)
Infinity Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Anderson, CA Posts: 2,371 Thanks: 202 Thanked 102x in 94 posts	Holy Sweet Pea Soup Batman! That surely changes the makeup of the tourney. I'll go with Hector "Macho" Camacho against Julio Cesar Chavez in the finals if they're set up correctly. Chavez winning it all in the long run. __________________ *Infinity Boxing Association* *All Time Greatest Tourney - Infinity Style* All Time Greatest Tourney - Infinity Style - Teams

08-05-2009, 04:02 PM	#247 (permalink)
jdphx Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 59 Thanks: 2 Thanked 10x in 10 posts	WOW!!!! What a shocker! I thought Sweet Pea vs JC Chavez was almost a given here... Who now?? Macho?? Coggi?? I'd say maybe Rosario if he weren't Post Prime....

08-05-2009, 11:05 PM	#249 (permalink)
PWillisTheMan All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2008 Posts: 1,802 Thanks: 80 Thanked 185x in 180 posts	That hurts my heart. Where is Randall? __________________ http://8countnews.com/authors/?authorID=60

08-06-2009, 08:13 PM	#252 (permalink)
Infinity Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Anderson, CA Posts: 2,371 Thanks: 202 Thanked 102x in 94 posts	There's a big difference between a 4 rounder and a 12 or 15 rounder. The fact is, I've always felt that 4 rounders are a waste of time in developement of a fighter as you can't really see their skills. __________________ *Infinity Boxing Association* *All Time Greatest Tourney - Infinity Style* All Time Greatest Tourney - Infinity Style - Teams

08-06-2009, 10:14 PM	#256 (permalink)
Crimson All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 996 Thanks: 682 Thanked 54x in 51 posts	Thursday, June 4^th, 1992 Gleason’s Arena; Brooklyn, NY Terrence Alli 50-7-2 (21) Guyana vs. Charles Murray 25-1-1 (17) New York - In the May of 1991 Terrence Alli had beaten Charles “The Natural” Murray in Murray’s hometown of Rochester, NY over 12 rounds for the NABF title. The rematch was to be fought in Alli’s adopted hometown of Brooklyn, NY. There were expected to by many Guyanese present cheering on their fellow countryman, Terrence Alli. - The odds were EVEN who would win this rematch. - All 1,100 seats were sold out and the atmosphere inside the small venue was electric. The vast majority of the paid customers were cheering themselves hoarse for Alli, prior to the fight even starting! - True to his tradition, Alli ran across the ring at the bell and attacked Murray. “The Natural” was ready and with swift movement of his feet fired a hard right off the top of Alli’s head. A hard right from Alli stunned Murray and Gleason’s went nuts. It was so loud the referee couldn’t hear the bell and the round lasted an additional 10 seconds. - The slick Murray was boxing beautiful and causing problems for Alli, when he was caught by a short right and fell to the canvas. Up at 7 Murray was hurt bad. It was to be the high water mark off the fight for Alli. - For the remainder of the fight Murray did plenty of holding and clinching, but he was effective at nullifying Alli’s attack. From the outside he was able to pick the charging Alli apart. Punches landed numbers favored Murray by a wide margin of 271-162. Murray landed an incredible 56% of his punches thrown! Ringside Expert Mirco Mizero had it close for Murray at 96-94. Ring Announcer Frank Shain delivered the decision to a crowd who knew what to expect, but still held out hope for something else. The 3 official judges all had Murray the winner at 96-93, 97-94, and 96-95. - Murray will next have the unenviable task of taking on the undefeated knockout machine Carlos Gonzalez for the WBO title. Charles Murray Wu10 Terrence Alli Terrence Alli vs. Julio Cesar Chavez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_Gc4WEeftQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VspwMM3wNyI&feature=related Charles Murray interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aebIv7y2BsI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDzWrH4jonY&feature=related Charles Murray vs. Mickey Ward http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Juy3Gk6UySs&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vMy6SkXfS2Q&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cqj-7sG_a64&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QpSiFB4tk0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v0P4EpofJ4k&feature=related Charles Murray vs. Salvador Villa http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_7BqVIWsss Attached Images

08-06-2009, 10:23 PM	#257 (permalink)
Crimson All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 996 Thanks: 682 Thanked 54x in 51 posts	Saturday, June 6^th, 1992 Everton Park Sports Centre; Liverpool, England Andy Holligan 20-1 (13) England vs. Edwin Rosario 45-5 (36) Puerto Rico - Odds are EVEN. - Fighting almost exclusively out of a crablike shell, Holligan produced little offense, but did manage to frustrate the bombing Rosario throughout. Still at the fight’s conclusion most had Rosario the winner by a wide margin. - Holligan surprised Rosario with an offensive attack in round 9, managing to cause puffiness around the former world title holder’s right eye (4). By this time in the fight Holligan’s own left eye (15) was virtually closed. Holligan employed the same strategy with success in the final round, but still did not do enough to win on the scorecard of television analyst Jim Watt, which had Rosario the winner 97-93. - Punch stat totals favored Rosario slightly 230-224. The referee was the lone scoring judge in the contest and had it…..96-95….for EDWIN ROSARIO!! “Chapo” will now challenge Rafael Pineda in July for the IBF title at Puerto Rico’s “Hiram Bithorn” stadium. Edwin Rosario W10 Andy Holligan Andy Holligan vs. Julio Cesar Chavez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AAGJRcQJzs Edwin Rosario vs. Edwin Viruet http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TG4zao_ZivU&feature=related Edwin Rosario vs. Jose Luis Ramirez I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IbsytjJCO2o&feature=related Edwin Rosario vs. Hector Camacho http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_8VArgF5aY0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OFMkXq_C8G0&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEEclKo9Ry8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Okew_k9SQqc&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IM53luI1260&feature=related Edwin Rosario vs. Livingstone Bramble http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YELj4NMeQ8s&feature=related Attached Images

08-08-2009, 12:38 PM	#259 (permalink)
Crimson All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 996 Thanks: 682 Thanked 54x in 51 posts	Jr. Welter Semi Finals Friday, July 3^rd, 1992 Las Vegas Hilton; Las Vegas, NV Julio Cesar Chavez 78-1 (66) Mexico WBC vs Hector Camacho 44-2 (17) Puerto Rico AND Carlos Gonzales 30-0 (29) Mexico WBO vs. Charles Murray 26-1-1 (17) New York - Odds were even for the Chavez-Camacho match. - All 14,000 seats at the “Las Vegas Hilton” were sold for this highly anticipated matchup. A rematch clause was in place for a 3^rd meeting between the two down the road. - Chavez was looking forward to proving his previous loss, due to a 2^nd round cut, had been a fluke. The “Macho Man” was convinced that he had the style, brains, and skills to once again defeat the Mexican legend. - Said Chavez before the fight, “I have dedicated this fight to the president and people of Mexico. They will lynch me if I lose!” ROUND 1: An aggressive Chavez had a hard time catching Camacho. Referee Mills Lane issued a stern warning to Camacho for holding and hitting. Camacho was successful at hitting and not being hit, utilizing movement and holding. (Camacho 31-8) ROUND 2: More of the same from Camacho and Chavez. (Camacho 14-5) ROUND 3: Finally the intense pressure of Chavez showed signs that it was getting through. Camacho was noticeably slower and Chavez’ body shots were getting through. (Chavez 20-7) ROUND 4: Best action of the fight so far! The 14,000 boxing fans were on their feet as Chavez pinned Camacho to the ropes with brutal combinations, only to see “Macho” spin away and counter with blistering combinations! (Camacho 38-27) ROUND 5: After 4 rounds, 2 of the 3 official judges had Camacho ahead. Chavez was a bulldozer and unstoppable with his attack. By the round’s conclusion Camacho was breathing through his mouth and looking tired. (Chavez 26-8) ROUND 6: After 5 rounds, Ringside Expert Mark Somogyi had Camacho ahead by 1 point, 48-47. The punches landed department favored Camacho also 98 to 86. Chavez hurt Camacho early in the round and refused to allow Camacho to tie him up, forcing him to fight back. The crowd roared in approval, but it was not beneficial for Camacho to be in this kind of fight. (Chavez 52-15) ROUND 7: Referee Mill Lane followed the still hurt Camacho back to his corner in between rounds and was told by Camacho’s trainer, Hector Roca, “He’s okay!” Camacho showed plenty of heart as took tremendous punishment from Chavez, who seemed to be getting stronger. Camacho no longer had the legs to move out of range and repeatedly found himself against the ropes, where Chavez pounded his body. (Chavez 45-29) ROUND 8: Camacho was falling into a defensive shell and his ring movement had been reduced to a minimum. On the scorecard of Ringside Expert Mark Somogyi, Chavez had taken the last 4 rounds and was ahead 77-75. ROUND 9: The fight was turning into a mugging. A sharp uppercut from Chavez deposited Camacho on his ass for the count of 5. The left eye of Camacho (7) was now ½ closed. (Chavez 32-0) ROUND 10: Camacho found a 2^nd wind somewhere and managed to make Chavez miss, while countering with soft shots of his own, to maybe win the round. (Camacho 20-15) ROUND 11: Chavez was looking to remove the head of Camacho from his shoulders, but Camacho slipped and avoided most of the blows. Still the beat down of the “Macho” continued. (Chavez 19-11) ROUND 12: An off balance Camacho stumbled to the canvas after taking a Chavez right to the temple. Up at “7” Camacho nodded to Lane that he could continue. Shortly before the bell sounded to end the fight Camacho was briefly down again, courtesy of a right hand. (Chavez 20-7) DECISION: The judges decision was a mere formality, as even Camacho recognized that Chavez had won the fight. Michael Buffer made it official by announcing the unanimous decision win for Chavez by scores of 117-108, 116-108, and 116-109. Julio Cesar Chavez will nex face the newly crowned WBO belt holder Charles Murray in a WBC/WBO unification match. Chavez had praise for Camacho after the fight, “He turned out to be a better fighter than I expected. He’s not the feminine fighter I thought he would be. He really took a lot of punches. I have to give him credit. He had a lot of heart.” Camacho was humble in defeat, “It was the first time I fought a guy with that much courage. I couldn’t keep Julio off. The pressure he put on me was amazing. He won it, no doubt.” Julio Cesar Chavez Wu12 Hector Camacho (defends WBC title) [The above quotes are from before and after their actual September 1992 fight. This TBCB fight was very similar to what actually did take place when Chavez and Camacho fought.] - Charles Murray was a 2-1 favorite in his undercard matchup with Carlos Gonzalez. - Gonzalez had to make two attempts to make the 140 pound limit after he came in at 141 on the first attempt. Murray put in extra time doing road work and his trainer, Tommy Brooks, says he is in the best shape of his life. - Despite Gonzalez’ impressive record his most impressive win to date was his recent 2^nd round stoppage of Jimmy Paul to win the WBO belt. - The first 4 rounds all belonged to Murray as the slick right hander moved and jabbed. Gonzalez’ punches repeatedly fell short of landing. In round 5 Gonzalez finally started to get through and stunned Murray on at least one occasion. A small mouse could be seen under the right eye (1) of Murray after 6 rounds. Ringside Expert Mark Jones had Murray in front by 1 point, 58-57. Punches landed numbers favored Murray 154-129. - Entering round 7 Gonzalez appeared to be a very tired fighter, while Murray looked as fresh a loaf bread coming out of the oven. In round 8 Murray resumed control with some laser strike right hands. - In round 11 a tremendous Murray dig to the ribs of Gonzalez put the Mexican down for the count of 10. Charles Murray KO11 Carlos Gonzalez (wins WBO title) Hector Camacho vs. Julio Cesar Chavez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGKCTJjoVcg http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Xtkh7PH2kI&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C1MEDJamtTo&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ApKPOtK2x4Q&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPon20ekfAg&feature=related Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Ruben Castillo http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1g6yYWZJJk&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPX53vJrsnU&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GGw1hebsevE&feature=related Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Roger Mayweather II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_gqkvEkyxd8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rt4LFAGKJ4s&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6oqzzM_vXFo&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U4OW94H8lPw&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otG6YM4Rxxc&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uLx1GalhfM&feature=related Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Jose Luis Ramirez http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neoUsj6PDVc http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neoUsj6PDVc&feature=related Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Frankie Mitchell http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pe9-rHx3IE4&feature=related Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Greg Haugen http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdtiqU_3EY8&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WTXF_hvAwkE&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xl5W8oYUhd4&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WAAoBtS8G8s&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kxu8frKEB8E&feature=related Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Oscar De La Hoya I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wX0c3v2D5ZQ&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KQvokpFulps&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvsJ1TBs5pU&feature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IA4Xk7b2jw4&feature=related Julio Cesar Chavez vs. Oscar De La Hoya II http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VJz6WmPSNo&feature=related Carlos Gonzalez vs. Randall Bailey http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiyBaFo1WPY Attached Images

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Infinity Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Anderson, CA Posts: 2,371 Thanks: 202 Thanked 102x in 94 posts	Remember when I said a 4 round decision didn't mean much?...that's because Chavez was a notorious slow starter, whereas Camacho was well known for being a fast starter. Things went just about the way I figured they would...Now Chavez goes on to win it all! __________________ *Infinity Boxing Association* *All Time Greatest Tourney - Infinity Style* All Time Greatest Tourney - Infinity Style - Teams

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