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Old 12-15-2011, 02:32 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Heavyweight Premier League

A while back, I decided to create a universe with the top twenty HW fighters of all time. The name for this venture was the Heavy Weight Premier League. I ran into a few issues, including moving and losing the schedule I had generated, and it fell onto the back burner, but I have decided to re-start it.

So for the inaugural league there will be twenty fighters, matched up against each other twice on the schedule. There will be three matches every Sunday afternoon, starting January 1, 2012. Fighters can fight in back to back weeks, unrealistic I know, but so is the concept, so I am not too worried. The 'season' will run until the final two matches are fought on June 1, 2014.

While based on the idea of a soccer/football Premier League, the winner will be decided based on the rankings determined by the program. I doubt it will be more than one 'season', only because trying to do the relegation and promotion would be a pain I think. I do have an idea or two as to how to do this, but I will have to think about it some more. In the mean time, there should be plenty of action to keep me busy while I am thinking about it.

Next up, who's in.

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Old 12-15-2011, 03:17 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Participants

Since I chose the participants by rating, numbers 1 – 20 are:

Ali
Marciano
Louis
Dempsey
Tyson
Tunney
Langford
Johnson
Jeffries
Jackson
Holmes
Frazier
Stribling
McVey
Liston
L. Lewis
Klitschko
Jeanette
Foreman
Loughran*

*Since there are twelve fighters rated as 11's, I had a brief fight in, the final of which saw Tommy Loughran pretty much maul Max Schmelling in a UD15.

(on a side note, I have never attempted to post anything like this, so I am probably going to have some teething problems, so please bear with me.)
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Misc. before the start

Rules:

International, except that can be saved by the bell in any round and only ref can stop the fight.

All bouts will be fifteen rounds, with ten point scoring.

All fighters will obviously be in their prime, with conduct check for condition, generic offense for trainer, and generic cut man.

Misc.

Not that this really matters, but I deleted all refs with judgment under 15, and all venues under a 4 and less than 10,000 capacity.

The schedule for all bouts was done on an online scheduler, and I didn't touch it.

So, off to the first day of action.
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Ali v. Frazier

Was a little disappointed when I saw this was the first fight. Was hoping for Tyson v. Johnson or something along those lines. Anyway, it was a nice back and forth fight, with Ali absorbing most of the big hits during the bout. That's why I can't complain about the outcome: Frazier MD 15

Foreman v. Holmes

Another disappointment when I saw the schedule. It was exciting though. Holmes went down in the 4th, and Foreman twice in the 8th, twice in the 12th, and once in the 15th. Outcome wasn't in doubt unless Foreman KO'd Holmes: Holmes UD15

Klitschko v. Jackson

Finally the type of match up I was looking for. And it was almost over in the 1st as Klitschko was very nearly out on his feet, but Jackson couldn't finish him. Klitschko soldiered on, but went down in the 5th, 10th, 12th, 13th, and twice in the 14th. Knew this one was coming: Jackson TKO14
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Jeffries v. Tunney

Unfortunately, Jeffries came into the fight looking soft around the edges, and it showed. On top of that, ref Gerald Scott seemed to think everyone was there to see him. After a slow start, that wasn't helped by the 1,453 fouls, Tunney took control. By the end of the 10th, Jeffries eyes were both badly swollen, he went down in the 11th, and the most lopsided win in the early days of the HWPL was on the books: Tunney UD15

McVey v. Johnson

Not much to say here, as both men came out swinging. It was a fairly even first three rounds, perhaps with an advantage to Johnson. Then, in the fourth, a horrifically violent shot under the ribs 1:47 into the round results in: McVey KO4.

Liston v. Stribling

More disappointment in just the second week of the inaugural season of the HWPL as it looks like Liston hadn't taken his prep work for this bout at all seriously. However, he came packing a serious punch that kept him in the bout until the end. Well, almost to the end, as with time fading in the 15th, Stribling laid him out, only to see Liston saved by the bell. Nevertheless: Stribling UD15

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Louis v. Marciano

The bout got off to a promising start as Louis came charging out at the bell to pummel Marciano in the first. All this seemed to do was to rile up Marciano, who in the second, landed a wicked hook to the side of Louis' head for the first knock down of the night. The third and fourth rounds saw the two trading vicious blows. The fifth was much of the same, except there wasn't any trading going on: Louis TKO5

Tyson v. L. Lewis

An even fight through nine, then the action started. Lewis went on a rampage in the 10th, which seemingly angered Tyson, as he sent him down in both the 11th and 12th rounds. Unfortunately for one, the cut above his left eye that was opened in the 6th (and re-opened in the 7th, 8th, and 10th) took a major hit in the 15th, bringing an end to the fight: L. Lewis TKO15

Dempsey v. Jeanette

Once again, early in the season, a fighter was less than prepared for his bout as Jeanette was looking less than sharp as the bell rang in the 1st. Dempsey charged out of the gate, seemingly sensing the weakness in his opponent. He was unable to fully capitalize on his advantage until Jeanette went down in the 8th and then again in the 12th. While the bout may have stretched the entire fifteen rounds, Jeanette's sorry state never left the outcome in doubt: Dempsey UD15

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Interesting

I was gonna do something like this except bigger, set up like English Football. Premier League, etc. Relegation, relegation playoff the works, like this will keep an eye on it. Thanks for sharing.
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Thanks for the reply. I can't imagine possibly keeping all of that straight. Not to mention the time needed to just set it all up. It's been enough work just with twenty guys.
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Loughran v. Langford

Not the most exciting fight ever, with a slow and sloppy first four rounds. Something must have been said to Langford before the 5th, as he charged out and knocked Loughran down and dominated the round. Another knockdown of Loughran in the 8th saw Langford take control of the bout. He didn't let up until the 14th, as it seemed he knew he was to win and was willing to just take the rest of the fight off. As it turns out, he was right: Langford UD15

(this match also marks the point where all twenty fighters have had a bout, so only 370 more to go!)

Holmes 1-0-0 v. Tyson 0-1-0

Well, this bout got off to a smashing start, as Tyson crumbled to the canvas after a hard hook from Holmes after just 49 seconds. Unfortunately, the rest of the fight was ho hum, although Tyson sent Holmes down in the 6th. Perhaps Tyson trained too hard for today, but he just didn't seem to have much in the tank after the 8th, leading to: Holmes UD15

McVey 1-0-0 (1) v. Frazier 1-0-0

McVey came into this fight coming off an impressive knockout of Jack Johnson and he started strong. However, Frazier had the confidence of a win over Ali on his side. Good action from the beginning saw the two trade rounds through the first five, and then McVey knocking Frazier down in the 8th, looking to be in total control. In the 9th, McVey received a second warning that was not totally justified, and he was visibly upset, charging towards Frazier swinging away wildly: McVey TKO9
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Marciano 0-1-0 v. Ali 0-1-0

Another wonderful early season match up, with the added bonus of both men coming into this bout having lost their first fights. They both entered the ring carrying a chip on their shoulders, and it showed from the opening bell. Marciano and Ali traded vicious blasts throughout the entirety of the fight, with the sole knockdown coming in the 8th with Ali going succumbing to a flush cross. Ali stood, dusted himself on, and the two continued. The final bell rang: Marciano UD15

Klitschko 0-1-0 v. L. Lewis 1-0-0 (1)

All in all a great match as far as the fans were concerned. Klitschko came out looking to mark a mark, and immediately caused swelling to Lewis' right eye in the first. Savage blows were landed by both men, but it seemed Klitschko had the advantage, sending Lewis to the mat in the 5th, 9th, and 14th. He then opened a cut above Lewis' left eye in the 15th. So, a very entertaining bout (of course, minus the ballroom dancing exhibition in the 11th) leads to: Klitschko UD15

Jackson 1-0-0 (1) v. Loughran 0-1-0

It looked like Jackson had put a little too much work into training for this fight, but there would of course only be one way to find that out for certain. So, they fought. And a good fight it was. Loughran went down in the 3rd, but he kept battling. He made Jackson work hard for all of his points, darting around the ring, a difficult target. Eventually, Jackson was able to pin Loughran in the 15th, but it was too little too late: Loughran UD15
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End of January Standings

It's still too early to be meaningful, but here is how it stands:

McVey 2-0-0 (2)
Holmes 2-0-0
Louis 1-0-0 (1)
Tunney 1-0-0
Stribling 1-0-0
Langford 1-0-0
Dempsey 1-0-0
Jackson 1-1-0 (1)
Loughran 1-1-0
Marciano 1-1-0
Klitschko 1-1-0
Frazier 1-1-0
Liston 0-1-0
Jeffries 0-1-0
Jeanette 0-1-0
Foreman 0-1-0
Johnson 0-1-0
Ali 0-2-0
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Jeanette 0-1-0 v. Jeffries 0-1-0

Both fighters came in wanting to prove that their first results were flukes. Unfortunately for Jeffries, an accidental headbutt caused a cut above the left eye in the 1st, which was re-opened in the 3rd, 4th, and 14th. Jeanette was cut above the right eye in the 7th, with it re-opened in the 9th and 11th. He also went down in both the 3rd and 11th. He picked himself up though, and continued to work towards a victory. A victory that was not to be as Jeffries was able to exploit the ever expanding cut above Jeanette's eye: Jeffries TKO14

Liston 0-1-0 v. Tunney 1-0-0

All in all an evenly matched fight. While a good fight, not much happened until the 9th, when an accidental headbutt opened a cut above Liston's left eye. He was able to continue, until the cut was re-opened in the 11th. After the doctor had a look, the fight was called, and due to the accidental nature of the cut, to the scorecards they went. Both camps had a pretty good argument in their favor: MDraw

Stribling 1-0-0 v. Dempsey 1-0-0

Another good fight, with some monstrous blows being landed in the first few rounds. These included one from Stribling the opened a cut on the bridge of Dempsey's nose in the 3rd. The cut was re-opened in the 4th, was still bleeding in the 5th, closed, and then re-opened in the 6th, at which point: Stribling TKO6

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Who won Liston/Tunney?
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Who won Liston/Tunney?
It was a majority draw with two rounds being even and one round being judged in Tunney's favor.
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J. Johnson 0-1-0 v. Foreman 0-1-0

It looked like Jack Johnson may have overdone it the gym before this bout, but the pundits seemed to be wrong when he sent Foreman to the canvas in the 1st round. After that, the fight ebb and flowed, with Johnson pretty much in control and seemingly in great shape as it appeared Foreman was out of gas by the 7th. Although he looked tired, Foreman was still packing quite a wallop when he landed a punch. However, Johnson stood firm, knocking Foreman down again in the 12th, and eventually: J Johnson UD15

Langford 1-0-0 v. Louis 1-0-0 (1)

Wow. Savage. That is the only one word to sum up this fight. Both men viciously laid into each other from the opening bell. There were no knock downs, not even any swelling, with the only sign either had been in a fight being a slight cut above Louis' right eye in the 14th. Many thought the result was too close to call, however: Louis SD15

Tyson 0-2-0 v. Klitschko 1-1-0

Mr. Tyson entered the ring looking a bit peeved that he was coming into this bout with two losses. And he pretty much sprinted to Klitschko as soon as the bell rang. The ref looked ready to step in and stop the fight in both 1st and 2nd, but Tyson couldn't land that one last punch. Klitschko's left eye did have some pronounced swelling after the 2nd though. Rounds 3 through 9 saw back and forth action, with thundering shots being landed by both men. After the 9th, Tyson took over again, knocking Klitschko down in the 13th and 14th. The 15th was a bit anti climatic, as 99% of the folks there knew it would be : Tyson UD

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Jeffries 1-1-0 (1) v. Loughran 1-1-0

For the most part, a very good fight. Except for a couple rounds that were absolute stinkers, the match was pretty even. Loughran peppered Jeffries relentlessly, and when Jeffries could catch up to Loughran, he walloped him. For most sitting ringside, it looked as though Jeffries had done enough to warrant at least a split decision. Surprise: MDraw (2 even, 1 Jeffries)

Louis 2-0-0 (1) v. Liston 0-1-1

Another even fight, big punches, excitement, etc. Louis opened a cut above Liston's right eye in the 5th and re-opened it in the 6th. Liston soldiered on, knocking Louis down unexpectedly in the 8th (granted, it was just for three seconds). Louis shook his head once, and waded back into the action. He cam out in the 9th and landed a solid hook above Liston's right eye, causing the closed cut to tear open most unpleasantly: Louis TKO9

Tunney 1-0-1v. Holmes 2-0-0

Nearly missed the beginning of this one, as it was being held at the MGM Grand, and I was a bit distracted by my surroundings. Anyway, I made it in time. However, I wished I hadn't, as the first nine rounds resembled a prom, these two were clinching so much! And then the 10th, a fight actually broke out. Tunney pummeled Holmes throughout the round. I was so excited they made it through 2:57 with out grabbing each other, but they couldn't help themselves, and as the bell rang, they were once again in each others arms. Well, worst fight I have ever seen, but Tunney did knock Holmes down in the 15th, at the 2:59 mark: Tunney UD15 (on a side note, it was reported that the two were spotted at a candle lit dinner hours after the bout. Worst fight ever. Ugh.)

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Thanks for the reply. I can't imagine possibly keeping all of that straight. Not to mention the time needed to just set it all up. It's been enough work just with twenty guys.
I have the welterweights set up. It is quite vast I will let you know how it goes.
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I have the welterweights set up. It is quite vast I will let you know how it goes.
Well, good luck. And make sure you have back ups of the back ups to all of your files. Losing them can be quite frustrating.
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Jackson 0-1-0 v. Foreman 0-1-0

It looked like Jack Johnson may have overdone it the gym before this bout, but the pundits seemed to be wrong when he sent Foreman to the canvas in the 1st round. After that, the fight ebb and flowed, with Jackson pretty much in control and seemingly in great shape as it appeared Foreman was out of gas by the 7th. Although he looked tired, Foreman was still packing quite a wallop when he landed a punch. However, Jackson stood firm, knocking Foreman down again in the 12th, and eventually: Jackson UD15
Hey bro,

Was this Jack Johnson or Peter Jackson that fought Foreman?
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Was this Jack Johnson or Peter Jackson that fought Foreman?
It is supposed to be Jack Johnson, when I get home I will have to make sure that's who I actually had in the fight. That's what I get for doing one more fight when I should be in bed. I will clarify when I know. Hopefully I just was writing the names incorrectly and won't have to re do the fight.

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