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Old 05-05-2007, 06:34 PM   #2221 (permalink)
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End of February 1912

Title fights -- title changed hands title was vacantUnification bout

HW - (IBF) Sam Langford (32-6-2) KO12 James Corbett (34-11-3)
LH - (AABU) Seamon Johnson (16-5) TKO11 Jewey Smith (10-7-4)
LH - (USBA) Bob McAllister (19-2) TKO4 Mike Boden (15-3-5)
LH - (CBU) Billy McColl (17-13-1) KO6 Sergeant Sunshine (8-3)
LH - (IBF) Charles McCoy (34-9-3) vs. Fred Russell (20-9)
WW - (WBA/C) George Cole (17-10-4) KO14 Wildcat Ferns (21-7)
WW - (USBA) Kyle Whitney (19-5-5) KO10 Battling Hurley (17-2-1)
LW - (IBF) Young Griffo (38-8-6) UD15 Harry Lyons (35-18-1)
LW - (WBA) Frank Erne (23-8-2) TKO11 Arthur Chambers (23-4-1)
FW - (WBC) Kid Langford (17-14-3) SD15 Johnny Kilbane (22-3-1)
BW - (CBU) Young Hundreds (11-2-2) DRAW12 Jimmy Anthony (14-7-3)
BW - (WBA) Terry McGovern (37-8-4) TKO11 Jimmy Barry (19-4)



movement - all club to main unless noted

HW - Tom Carter (10-3-2), Jack Fitzgerald (10-1-1) Steve Reynolds (10-16-3) down to club, Jack Gardner (8-13-1) down to club

LW - Phil Brock (10-0-2), Robert Habbijam (9-5-1), Harry Scroggs (8-4-2)

BW - Philadelphia Pal Moore (10-1)


Debut Rankings

HW -Tom Carter (10-3-2) (25)
HW - Billy Kennedy (11-2-2) (93)
MW - Bill Murray (14-1) (25)
WW - Jimmy Fryer (15-0) (14)
WW - Johnny Alberts (10-3-2) (38)
LW - Bat Mullins (12-2-1) (67)
LW - Robert Habbijam (9-5-1) (65)
LW - George Taylor (11-4) (69)
LW - Harry Scroggs (8-4-3) (111)
BW - Terry Edwards (13-0-2) (15)
BW - Young Hundreds (11-2-2) (34)
FLY - Bill Ladbury (11-2-2) (6)
FLY - dick Jenkins (14-1) (5)

Attached the monthly fights and also the index output from Sabs history utility which will show the title lineage
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Old 05-05-2007, 07:04 PM   #2222 (permalink)
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Current World Champions (how many defenses) (date won)

WBA

HW - Sam Langford (5) (6/1910)
LH - Jack Dillon (0) (8/1911)
MW - Frank Klaus (8) (9/1909)
WW - George Cole (0) (2/1912)
LW - Frank Erne (0) (2/1912)
FW - Will Curley (0) (1/1912)
BW - Terry McGovern (0) (2/1912)
FLY - Charley Harvey (3) (2/1911)

WBC

HW - Sam Langford (4) (6/1910)
LH - Jack Dillon (2) (6/1911)
MW - Dan Creedon (0) (12/1911)
WW - George Cole (0) (2/1912)
LW - Young Griffo (2) (8/1911)
FW - Kid Herman Landfield (0) (2/1912)
BW - George Dixon (0) (1/1912)
FLY - NONE

IBF

HW - Sam Langford (3) (3/1911)
LH - Charles McCoy (0) (2/1912)
MW - Billy Papke (2) (7/1911)
WW - Jack Britton (0) (12/1912)
LW - Young Griffo (1) (1/1912)
FW - Will Curley (1) (12/1911)
BW - Dave Sullivan (0) (11/1911)
FLY - NONE

WBO

HW - Jack Johnson (2) (6/1911)
LH -NONE
MW- NONE
WW - NONE
LW - Jack McAuliffe (0) (1/1912)
FW - NONE
BW - NONE
FLY - NONE
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Old 05-06-2007, 07:53 AM   #2223 (permalink)
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Back to the 60's
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Old 05-08-2007, 11:17 PM   #2224 (permalink)
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the wbo must do something rigth now, to have more champions
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Old 05-09-2007, 06:34 AM   #2225 (permalink)
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Have to have 100 ranked fighters in order for a WBO title.

WBA is first
WBC is added when there is 30 ranked fighters
IBF is added when there is 60 ranked fighters
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Old 05-13-2007, 10:21 PM   #2226 (permalink)
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beginners for March 1912

53 out of 111 were in action and they went 47-4-2 against them.


moving to club

HW - Otto Fink (7-0), Daan Holtkamp (4-1-1), Jack McFarland (5-0-2)

LH - Walter Monaghan (6-1)

MW - Ed Revoire (7-0)

LW - Gus Gardner (6-1)

FW - Billy Kolb (4-2)

BW - Sam Keller (6-0)

FLY - Curley Osborne (5-1), Joe Symonds (7-0)
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:31 AM   #2227 (permalink)
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Heavyweights for March 1912

52 of the 157 main division fighters are in action with 10 facing TC's. They went 9-1 against them. Billy Tate (13-11-1) got the loss.

15 of the 49 club fighters are in action this month with 8 facing TC's. They went 6-2 with Dan Hickey (9-39-1) and Watt Adams (5-16-3) getting the losses.

Title Fights

WBA/WBC/IBF - Sam Langford (32-6-2) vs. #3 John C. Heenan (29-8-1) (Langford won a SD10 in December of 1906)

WBO - Jack Johnson (43-3) vs. #4 Pearce Henry (18-0) (pre) (first meeting)

AABU - George Christian (12-0) (pre) vs. Arthur Warren (10-4-3) (pre) (first)

Notable fighters (fighters rated 9 or above)

Johnson, Langford, and Henry are all in title fights (see above).

Joe Choynski (35-10-1) (post) vs. Joe Goss (26-6-4)

Joe Jeannette (24-4), Jack O'Brien (29-7-2), John Sullivan (39-9), and Jimmy Elliot (30-9-3) are all facing lesser fighters on the fight cards

Harry Wills (8-0) defeated a TC.

Undefeated fighters

Henry and Christian are in title matches (see above)

Harry Wills defeated a TC

Carl Morris (13-0) is facing a lesser fighter on the fight cards
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:38 PM   #2228 (permalink)
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Lightheavyweights for March 1912

24 of the 68 main division fighters are in action with 6 facing TC's. They went 3-2-1 against them.

12 of the 26 club fighters are in action with 4 facing TC's. They went 3-1 against them.

Title Bouts

WBA - Jack Dillon (24-0) vs. Bob McAllister (19-2) (first meeting, Dillon's WBC and McAllister's USBA titles will not be on the line)

Notable fighters

Dillon and McAllister (see above)

Leo Houck (26-12-2) will face Alec Greggains (14-6-1) on a fight card

Battling Levinsky (15-1) lost to a TC!!!

Undefeated fighters

Levinsky and Dillon (see above)

Joe Cavanaugh (5-0-2) is facing a lesser fighter on the fight cards.
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Old 05-14-2007, 09:31 PM   #2229 (permalink)
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What do make of McAllister's chances in this one?
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Old 05-14-2007, 10:17 PM   #2230 (permalink)
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Not very good .. no one has really even come close to beating Dillon. Carpentier gave him a good fight the last time out though.

He is landing 39% to 20% for the opponent. McAlister is landing 38% to 27%.

All that said ... Dillon has to lose sometime!
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Old 05-15-2007, 07:37 AM   #2231 (permalink)
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Middleweights for March 1912

41 of the 99 main division fighters are in action with 12 facing TC's. They went 12-0 against them.

9 of the 25 club fighters are in action with 4 facing TC's. They went 3-1 against them.

Title Fights

WBC - Dan Creedon (31-15-1) vs. #6 Stanley Ketchel (30-8) (Ketchel won a TKO7 in Jan of 1911 and a TKO5 in April of 1909)

IBF - Billy Papke (25-4) vs. #14 Jeff Clarke (19-2) (first meeting)

Notable fighters

Ketchel and Papke (see above)

Young Mitchell (17-1) both defeated TC's.

Ed McGoorty (24-4-1) and Jack McCarron (13-0-1) is facing a lesser fighter on a fight card.

Undefeated fighters

McCarron (see above)

Willie Brennan (15-0-1), Tommy Gavigan (14-0), Pat O'Keefe (6-0-1) and George Robinson (7-0) are all fighting lesser fighters on the fight cards.

Gus Platts (6-0-1), Johnny Wilson (8-0),Charley Davis (12-0-1), and William Sheriff (14-0) all defeated TC's


Eddie Moha (9-1-1) lost to a TC!
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Old 05-15-2007, 11:52 AM   #2232 (permalink)
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I've come up with some good title fights this month so far!
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Old 05-16-2007, 06:23 AM   #2233 (permalink)
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Welterweights for March 1912

28 of the 75 main division fighters are in action with only 3 facing TC's. All 3 won.

8 of the 16 club fighters are in action and 4 of them faced TC's. They went 4-0 against.

Title Fights

WBC - George Cole (18-10-4) vs. #3 George Lavigne (31-15-2) (first meeting)

IBF - Jack Britton (24-3-6) vs. #6 Kyle Whitney (19-5-5) (Britton won by TKO2 in June of 1911, and by SD10 in January of 09)

CBU - Ted Lewis (17-2-1) vs. Jack Willis (16-10-2)

Notable fighters

Cole, Lavigne, Lewis, and Britton (see above)

Eddie Shevlin (15-2-1) defeated a TC.

Joe Walcott (26-16-6) faces Andy Watson (15-8-2) on a fight card.

Billy Myer (32-9-4) and Mysterious Billy Smith (21-5-1) both face lesser fighters on the fight cards

Undefeated fighters

Johnny Basham (13-0) and Mick Dunn (7-0) both defeated TC's.

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Lightweights for March 1912

39 of the 124 main division fighters are in action with 7 facing TC's. They went 7-0 against them.

19 of the 33 club fighters are in action and 10 of them faced TC's. They went 8-1-1 against.

Title Fights

WBO - Jack McAuliffe (40-7-2) (post) vs. #3 Aurelio Herrera (24-10) (first meeting, McAuliffe will have a 20% chance of fighting at Prime .. to be determined at the time of the card)

AABU - Mike Ward (13-2-1) (pre) vs. Arthur Douglas (17-7) (pre) (first meeting)

CBU - Willie Fitzgerald (21-1-3) vs. Freddie Welsh (19-8-1) (first meeting)

Notable fighters

McAuliffe, Herrera, Fitgerald and Welsh (see above)

Abe Attell (36-12-3), Young Erne (18-10), and Joe Shugrue (5-0-2) are facing lesser fighters on the fight cards.

Benny Leonard (6-0) defeated a TC.

Undefeated fighters

Leonard and Shugrue (see above)

Patsy Kerrigan (5-0-2) is facing a lesser fighter on the fight cards.

Phil Bloom (8-0-1) and George Dawson (9-0) both defeated TC's

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LBA fan favorite Aurelio Herrera getting another title shot ... If McAuliffe comes in at post prime he'll have a good shot at winning.

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Old 05-17-2007, 05:28 PM   #2236 (permalink)
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Fingers crossed that the dice work in Herrera's favor. What do you think Herrera's chances will be if McAuliffe does come in at Prime.
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Old 05-17-2007, 10:47 PM   #2237 (permalink)
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He does better against sluggers than boxers so I think he matches up pretty well. One thing to remember McAuliffe scored a UD15 over Jack Blackburn to win the title and was Post-Prime for that fight.
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Featherweights for March 1912

44 of the 97 main division fighters are in action with 7 facing TC's. They went 7-0 against them.

4 of the 17 club fighters are in action and 3 of them faced TC's. They went 3-0 against them.

Title Fights

WBA - Will Curley (23-9-3) vs. #3 Oscar Gardner (23-6-1) (Gardner has won 2 SD over Curley: SD12 in 7/11 and a SD10 in 6/09)

WBC - Kid Landfield (17-14-3) vs. #5 Cal McCarthy (22-6) (first meeting, McCarthy will give up his USBA title with a win)

CBU - Patsy Kline (12-7-2) vs. Johnny Dundee (13-0) (pre) (first meeting)

Notable fighters

McCarthy and Dundee (see above)

Eugene Criqui (12-0) defeated a TC.

Tommy O'Toole (14-3) (pre) will face Dick Hollywood (13-3) (pre) on a fight card.

Benny Yanger (22-3) will face a lesser fighter on the fight cards

Undefeated fighters

Criqui and Dundee (see above)

Patsy Brannigan (16-0-2), George Chaney (10-0-2) and Battling Reddy (7-0) all defeated TC's.

Tommy Warren (14-0) will face a lesser fighter on the fight cards.

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Old 05-18-2007, 08:48 PM   #2239 (permalink)
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I really like the way things are shaping up in the MW division, would love to see Ketchel get the Title back........then hopefully the numbers play out for a unification fight with Papke.....these two are probably my favorites as far as rivalries go in the Universe.
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Old 05-19-2007, 07:58 AM   #2240 (permalink)
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So far they have only fought twice .. with Papke winning a UD15 in their second fight but Ketchel jumping all over Papke and stopping him in the first round of their first fight.
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