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Old 06-06-2008, 09:04 PM   #2761 (permalink)
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January 25, 1913

Title Fight

LW - (WBA) Abe Attell (CH) (41-12-3) scored a MD15 over Bobby Dobbs (16/19) (18-1) (pre) for his 3rd defense of the WBA LW title.

No cuts or knockdowns and it was fairly close fight until late. The judges cards showed 145-140/143-143/146-139. A mandatory rematch has been ordered for March. Dobbs rolled to fight at Prime and I put his career stage to prime but for some reason still fought at pre. He has moved to prime and will get a rematch, but the loss stands.

Title Tourney

LH - (WBC-First Round) John Wille (11/10) (23-7-1) continued to impress with a UD12 over Alfred Kearns (10/17) (15-3-3) to move to the second round of the WBC LHW title tourney.

Wille dropped Kearns in the 9th and then survived a nasty cut over his right eye in the 10th that was reopened twice. The scores were 116-112/115-112/116-112.

Other fights

HW - John C. Heenan (3/3) (32-9-1) TKO10 Dominic McCaffrey (21/27) (37-14-3) 87-83 weird thing about this one, McCaffrey has beaten Heenan twice yet Heenan was a 5-1 favorite and McCaffrey's ratings in the fight were horrible. His condition was fine so the only thing I can think of was that he fought as a boxer in this fight instead of a slugger.

WW - Jack Britton (1/1) (28-4-6) UD10 Dixie Kid (13/14) (28-17-6) 98-95

WW - Kid Graves (41/37) (21-9-2) UD10 Jimmy Mitchell (71/71) (12-15-1)

MW - Jack Burke (52/44) (28-18-6) UD10 Frank Fields (52/58) (18-9-1)
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Old 06-07-2008, 01:11 AM   #2762 (permalink)
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What an unfair loss for Dobbs.
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Old 06-07-2008, 09:15 AM   #2763 (permalink)
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Yeah I thought about deleting it and redoing it ... not sure why the prime in the fight setup didn't work ... I will have to play around with it and see if it is a bug. He does get the rematch though.
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Old 06-07-2008, 12:53 PM   #2764 (permalink)
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Refs barely make it out alive

January 31, 1913

Title Fights

WW - (WBA/C) George Cole (CH) (23-10-4) scored a UD15 over Terry Martin (4/5) (25-6-1) to retain the WBA and the WBC WW titles. It was his second defense of the WBA and 4th of the WBC.

The fight wasn't really close and there were no cuts or knockdowns. The scores were 145-142/146-140/144-142.

HW - (NABF) Carl Morris (9/7) (19-0) (pre) was given a gift DQ9 win over Jeff Clark (17/26) (17-4-1) to retain his NABF title for the first time.

Clark was dominating the fight. He had won virtually every round and had dropped Morris in the 9th. He had been warned three times but never penalized when the ref DQ'd him. I had it 79-72 at the stoppage. Morris went to prime and will be forced to a rematch but not immediate. He can have one fight in between since Clark is suspended for 4 months.

Title Tourney

FW - (WBO - first round) Jerry Barnett (13/8) (22-8-1) moves on to face Terry McGovern in the second round with a DQ6 win over Johnny Kilbane (4/9) (24-5-2). Kilbane was penalized in the first round and then DQ'd in the 6th. I had it 49-45 Kilbane at the stoppage.

Other fights

LH - Dan Creedon (5/4) (34-16-1) TKO8 George Byers (18/22) (20-13-1) Creedon's first fight at LHW

FLY - Grover Hayes (2/2) (20-2-1) UD10 Jack McDermott (14/15) (12-13-1)

FW - Al Jansen (UR) (9-0-4) Tech Draw 2 Billy Kolb (UR) (8-3-1) 10-9 Jansen (both at pre in this club fight)
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Title fights -- title changed hands title was vacantUnification bout


HW - (WBO) Jack Johnson (48-3) KO15 Joe Goss (29-7-5)
HW - (WBA/WBC/IBF) Sam Langford (37-6-2) KO10 Joe Choynski (37-12-2)
HW - (ROW) George Rodel (9-1-1) UD12 James Couper (12-7-3)
HW - (NABF) Carl Morris (19-0) DQ9 Jeff Clark (17-4-1)
MW - (IBF) Mike Gibbons (23-0) TKO14 Tom Norton (18-4)
MW - (WBA) Denny Harrington (19-2) TKO6 Frank Klaus (27-8-1)
WW - (WBA/C) George Cole (23-10-4) UD15 Terry Martin (25-6-1)
LW - (WBC) Young Griffo (41-9-7) UD15 Jack Keenan (21-5-2)
LW - (WBA) Abe Attell (41-12-3) MD15 Bobby Dobbs (18-1)
LW - (WBO) Willie Fitzgerald (24-2-4) TKO14 George McFadden (19-13-3)
FW - (WBC) Cal McCarthy (27-6) UD15 Leo Johnson (13-4-1)
BW - (WBA) Johnny Coulon (35-4-2) UD15 Monte Attell (24-8-2)
BW - (IBF) Johnny Murphy (24-5-2) KO11 Harry Tenney (25-8-3)
FLY - (WBA) Johnny Hughes (20-4-6) UD15 Joseph "Louisiana" Biderberg (15-3-5)
FLY - (CBU) Jimmy Wilde (16-0) TKO6 Tancy Lee (8-1-1)

Moving divisions (all club to main unless noted)

LH - Tom McCarty (10-1)
MW - Young Hickey (10-1-1), Billy Leedam (10-4-1)
LW - Gus Gardner (10-1), Alf Goodwin (9-4-2), Jimmy Britt (18-18-6)
FW - Battling Reddy (10-1), Todo Martin (10-0-3), Jack Greenstock (10-1-1)
BW - Maxey Haugh (19-19-4)
FLY - Harr Dodge (6-8-1), Joe Symonds (10-1), Jack Fox (10-3)


Debut Rankings

HW - Al Withers (14-1) (41)
MW - Billy Leedam (10-4-1) (84)
MW - Terry Mitchell (12-3) (63)
FW - Harry Greenfield (12-2-1) (78)
Fly - Harr Dodge (6-8-1) (18) out of 18
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Old 06-09-2008, 07:32 PM   #2766 (permalink)
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Steve Taylor ... one of the early fan favorites of the LBA ... is on his last breath (no he didn't die). He stayed at end for a second time with a last 10 of 6-3-1.

Fighters can only stay at post and end twice before having to move on.

Taylor's record is 24-24-1. He has between 5 and 10 fights left in his career.
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:58 PM   #2767 (permalink)
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HW's for February 1913

55 out of 169 main division fighters are in action with 13 facing TC's. They went 12-1 against them.

20 out of 49 club division fighters are in action with 8 facing TC's. They went 80 against them.

51 out of 113 beginners were in action, they went 31-17-3 against the TC's. Larry Holmes (1-0) was the only notable and he won his first fight by KO1. Tim Logan (2-4) and Charlie Penwill (6-1) both moved to club.


Title Fights

WBO Jack Johnson (48-3) vs. #18 Mexican Pete Everett (22-5-1) with a win Johnson would come within 1 win of being the first LBA fighter with 50 wins

EBU - Frank Mantell (24-8) vs. Otto Flint (11-0) (pre)

Nine other fights on the fight cards
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CW's for February 1913

Only 1 out of 10 beginners got to fight this month, he won.
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**** Side note ****

There were about 15 KO or TKO loses in the HW's and no one rolled the 5% for something drastic to happen ... I think the 5% will be a good #.
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Marvin Johnson gets his second win but had to go a full 6 rounds this time.
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LHW for February 1913

26 of the 79 main division fighters are in action with 4 facing TC's. They went 4-0 against them.

8 of the 27 club fighters are in action with 2 facing TC's. They went 2-0 against them.

20 of the 45 beginners were in action and they went 17-1-2 against the TC's.

Notable Beginners - Marvin Johnson (2-0), Alvaro (2-0), and Battling Siki (7-0) all with wins

Beginners moving to club - Max Krueger (2-3-1)

Title Bouts

WBA - Jack Dillon (28-1) vs. Fred Russell (24-9) Vacant Title

CBU - Billy McColl (20-13-1) vs. Harry Reeve (10-0) (pre)

Title Tourney

WBC - (first round) Bob McAllister (21-4) vs. Seaman Johnson (18-6)

Two other fights on the fight cards

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MW's for February 1913

44 out of the 116 main division fighters are in action with 14 facing TC's. They went 14-0 against them.

5 out of the 16 club fighters are in action with only 1 facing a TC. He won.

19 out of the 48 beginners were in action this month and went 15-2-2 against them.

Notable beginners - Alan Minter won to go to 3-0

Beginners moving to club - Stockyards Tommy Murphy (4-2)

Title Fights

WBO - Billy Papke (28-5) vs. Jeff Clarke (23-3) (Papke lost by TKO13 in 3/12) vacant title

WBC - George Gunther (23-6-1) vs. #10 Charley Dixon (16-0-1) (pre)

Title Tourney

WBA - (second round) Stanley Ketchel (34-9) vs. Al McCoy (18-1)

8 other fights on the fight cards
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JMW's for February 1913

6 of the 12 beginners were in action this month and they went 6-0 against them.

Notable beginners - Masashi Kudo won his first fight
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WW's for February 1913

35 of the 81 main division fighters are in action with 5 facing TC's. They went 4-1 against them.

7 of the 15 club fighters are in action with 1 facing a TC. He won.

19 of the 38 beginner fighters were in action and they went 16-2-1 against them.

Notable beginners - Tommy Bell (4-0), Wilfred Benitez (1-0) always thought it was wilfredo, Kid Gavilan (2-0), and Johnny Griffiths (7-0)

Moving up to club - Walter Mohr (4-2-1)

Title Fights

IBF - Peter Jackson (29-8-2) vs. #3 Jack Blackburn (34-13-6) Blackburn steps up for a title after one WW bout

EBU - Terry Martin (25-6-1) vs. Dick Nelson (20-8) (Martin won a TKO10 in 10/10) good bout

Six other fights on the fight cards
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JWW's for February 1913

11 of the 15 beginners were in action this month and they went 9-2-2 against them.

There are no notables in this division yet.
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LW - John Henry Johnson (3-6-1) is the first fighter to suffer permanent damage in the ring. His absorb punishment will go up by one.
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LW's for February 1913

43 of the 131 main division fighters are in action with 5 facing TC's. They went 5-0 against them.

15 of the 33 club fighters are in action with 9 facing TC's. They went 6-3 against them.

25 of the 67 beginners were in action, then went 19-2-4 against the TC's.

Notable Beginners winning - Joe Brown (1-0), Patsy Cline (1-0), Jose Luis Ramirez (1-0)

Title Fight

NABF - Kid Fredericks (18-2-2) vs. Lockport Jimmy Duffy (19-2-2)

Title Tourney Fights

IBF - (second round) Aurelio Herrera (26-12) vs. Young Corbett (32-18-4)

WBC - (second round) Battling Nelson (30-17-1) vs. Patsy Sweeney (22-13-2)

Six other fights on the fight cards
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JLW's for February 1913

10 of the 17 beginners were in action, they went 7-2-1 against the TC's.

Notable Beginners Winning - Bazooka Limon (2-0)
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FW's for February 1913

44 of the 105 main division fighters are in action with 4 facing TC's. They went 4-0 against them.

8 of the 17 club fighters are in action with 2 facing TC's. They went 2-0 against them.

12 of the 22 beginners were in action going 11-1 against the TC's.

Notable beginners - Bobby Chacon (4-0), Adolfo Horta Martinez (2-0)

Moving up to club - Benny Kaufman (8-0)

Title Fights

IBF - Solly Smith (28-17-4) vs. #14 Frank Robson (21-2-6)

WBC - Cal McCarthy (27-6) vs. #13 Percy Cove (23-6-2)

CBU - Fred Johnson (22-5-1) vs. Young Pluto (23-4) (Pluto won by KO7 in 4/09)

Six other fights on the fight cards
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3 of the 10 beginners were in action going 3-0 against the TC's.
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