Louisville Boxing Association

[mh2365]

March 23rd, 1907

#3 Terry McGovern (22-5-2) scored a MD15 over champ George Dixon (19-6) to regain the LBA Bantamweight title.

This was the 4th fight between the two and McGovern's 3rd win. He needed a strong finish to get there though.

Despite a 7th round knockdown of Dixon, I had McGovern down 115-113 going into the 13th round. He won the final 3 rounds convincingly to win the fight on my scorecard 143-142.

Ringside expert Danny Wildhawke had it the other way 143-142 for Dixon.

The official judges had it 144-141/142-142/143-142

On the undercard

MW - Harris Martin (15-11-4) TKO3 Jim Griffin (7-1)
HW - Jim Corbett (21-6-2) UD10 Bill Doherty (8-9)
BW - Digger Stanley (13-12-3) SD10 Casper Leon (11-10-4)
FW - Percy Cove (1-0) UD10 Tommy Love (0-1)
LHW - Dan Dwyer (12-12) MD10 Morris Heffey (9-13-1)

[mh2365]

This is the LBA print out so other champs are not included.

Champs not included are
HW - (LBC) Joe Coburn (16-7-4)
HW - (LBF) John L. Sullivan (24-5)
LHW - (LBC) Jack O'Brien (17-2-1)
MW - (LBC) Dan Creedon (18-8)
WW - (LBC) Peter Jackson (10-3)
LW - (LBC) Billy Myer (21-3-3)
FW - (LBC) Abe Attell (26-5-1)
BW - (LBC) Owen Moran (18-3-3)

[mh2365]

cont.....

[javier_83]

Originally Posted by mh2365

March 18th, 1907

Stanley Ketchel (17-2) scored a MD15 over #2 Bob Fitzsimmons (22-3) to retain his LBA Middleweight title.

Ketchel, who was knocked down 3 times and beaten up badly in a TKO4 loss to Fitz in July of 1905, looked ready to head down that same pathlast night when Fitz dropped him in the first round.

Instead Ketchel held on, got out of the first and got his feet back under him. He went on to outbox Fitz in the 2nd, and 3rd, then did some damage of his own in the forth. Fitz went down from a sharp uppercut. Fitz managed to survive the last 1:17 of the round despite Ketchel jumping all over him. Fitz's right eye started to swell.

The two fighters split the 5th and 6th. Seventeen seconds into round 7, Fitz caught Ketchel again dropping him for an 8 count. Ketchel got up very shakily and it didn't look good. Fitz jumped him and Ketchel did his best to hold on. At 1:51 of the round Fitz landed a brutal hook to the body and dropped Ketchel again.

Ketchel got up at 9, it appeared for a moment that the fight was over. Referee Fred Steinwinder asked Ketchel if he was alright and Ketchel said "It's Friday!". Steinwinder let the fight continue because it was Friday, but the crowd sensed one big shot would end it. That shot never came and Ketchel got out of the round. At this point, I had it 65-64 Fitz. Ketchel left eye began to swell.

Ketchel got his feet back under him and won the 8th, but the ref took a point away from him for a vicious low blow. Fitz won the 9th and 10th. So after 10 I had it 94-91 Fitz. It looked like Fitz was in control of the fight.

They split round 11 and 12. Ketchel's corner started in after 12 telling their boy he needed a KO to win. Ketchel came out strong in the 13th, and caught Fitz with a wicked combo at the 2:15 mark that caused Fitz to stumble back and put his right glove on the canvas. Steinwinder ruled it a knockdown despite the protests of Fitz. Review showed it was a punch that caused him to stumble backwards. This ruling put Ketchel back in the fight, after 13 I had it 121-120 Fitz.

Ketchel won the 14th, putting the balance of the fight on the 15th. Both fighters were exhausted and did alot of clinching in the 15th but a late flurry by Ketchel gave him the round.

I scored it 140-139 Ketchel. Ringside expert Walt Arnold scored it 141-140 Ketchel. The official judges had it 140-139/140-139/140-140. The fight featured 5 KD's and a point taken away for a foul. Ketchel landed 366 shots at 38.1%. Fitzsimmons landed 282 at 35.8%.

On the undercard
WW - Honey Mellody (11-10) MD10 Jem Carney (15-11) (Carney stepped up to WW in a weight adjusted fight)
HW - Joe Goss (11-2-1) UD10 Hank Griffin (11-3-2)
FW - Young Corbett (13-10-4) DRAW10 Benny Soloman (1-0-1)
HW - Jem Mace (10-5-2) DRAW10 Charles Hadley (14-10-3)
LHW - Al Kauffman (4-7) UD10 Mike McCoole (8-9-2)

why you dont save the HTML in FIle - Save As - so now you can attach the file here to see the bets figth of LBA

[mh2365]

Never noticed I could save the HTML as a txt file before ... that saves alot of time and effort ... thanks javier

here's the ketchel-fitzsimmons fight

[javier_83]

Thanks

i will read after my football practice: D

[mh2365]

McCoy dropped to 0-5 and into the club ranks on 11/03/1900. He has stayed in the club ranks for 6 1/2 years. On April 4th, 1907 McCoy won his 6th straight with a SD10 over Tommy Chandler (10-16-2) to run his record to (14-14-1).

This not only moves him back to the main division but also moves him back to prime until he loses again. I don't expect much from him but it was a nice comeback. His record follows:

History

Date Opponent Location Result Pp.
1900-01-30 Dick Sandall - 0-0-0 Mexico L SD 10 -13.49
1900-02-25 George Rooke - 0-0-0 Hamburg Germany L UD 10 -11.41
1900-04-15 Dan Creedon - 0-0-0 Saltillo Mexico L TKO 4 -8.13
1900-09-02 John P Clow - 2-0-0 Chicago, IL USA L MD 10 -11.21
1900-11-03 Jack Burke - 3-1-1 Pittsburgh, PA USA L TKO 9 -8.13
1901-06-28 Jim Brady - 0-5-0 Essington, PA USA L UD 10 -14.87
1901-09-24 Al Greenfield - 2-6-0 Berlin Germany W UD 10 6.20
1901-10-22 Johnny McGlade - 0-5-0 Buffalo, NY USA W UD 10 4.12
1901-11-16 Arthur Upham - 1-6-0 Bang-wa, Phasricharoen Thailand W MD 10 1.04
1901-12-23 Jim Brady - 1-6-0 Detroit, MI USA W UD 10 2.11
1902-02-25 Tommy Chandler - 1-7-0 Sydney Australia D D 10 3.00
1902-04-11 Johnny McGlade - 0-7-0 Germany L UD 10 -12.55
1902-10-17 Tommy Chandler - 1-8-1 Cincinnati, OH USA L UD 10 -10.30
1903-02-21 Al Greenfield - 6-8-1 Austin, TX USA L KO 5 -10.30
1903-07-27 Johnny McGlade - 3-7-2 Milwaukee, WI USA W UD 10 4.12
1903-09-05 Arthur Upham - 1-11-1 Nurnberg Germany W TKO 7 1.23
1903-11-18 Jack Munroe - 2-8-0 Osaka Japan W KO 7 1.23
1904-07-11 WC McClellan - 5-10-2 Miami Beach, FL USA L SD 10 -12.34
1904-09-07 Geoffrey Thorne - 5-12-2 Chicago, IL USA L TKO 7 -13.70
1905-03-23 Billy Devine* - 2-6-3 Camden, NJ USA W UD 10 3.10
1905-05-25 Frank Klaus - 4-0-1 Berlin Germany L UD 8 -7.08
1905-09-18 Jack Britton - 2-1-0 Panama City Panama L UD 6 -5.04
1905-12-07 George Fulijames - 7-13-0 Dusseldorf Germany L UD 10 -10.30
1906-04-13 George Rooke - 8-10-0 Kohoku-ku, Kanagawa Japan W KO 3 5.25
1906-06-07 WC McClellan - 10-14-3 Germany W UD 10 4.12
1906-08-17 James Brady - 5-14-5 Singapura Singapore W KO 5 2.21
1906-11-23 Neil Rowe - 0-2-0 Boston, MA USA W UD 10 1.14
1907-01-24 Walter Burgo - 0-0-0 Cologne Germany W TKO 2 1.23
1907-04-10 Tommy Chandler - 10-15-2 Lodi, NJ USA W SD 10 6.10



Stats

Bouts 29
Rounds 243
W L D KO TKO ND NC DQ
Record: 14 14 1 3 2 0 0 0
Title Bouts: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

[swampdragon]

I take it that it's unusual to make it out of the club ranks if you fall in by losing (as opposed to entering them as a prospect). I assume you've got over 100 middleweights. How many of them are club fighters?

[mh2365]

Currently I have as follows

HW - 132 total fighters/75 club fighters/of which 38 are beginners
LHW - 62/42/25
MW - 76/45/21
WW - 53/33/19
LW - 79/55/33
FW - 87/55/39
BW - 62/41/24

My fighters drop to club ranks if they fall 5 loses below .500. They can come back out if they even out their record. Not many do, maybe 2-4 a year if that. Usually once you go club, you're not coming back. Beginners 90% of the time start out in club (sometimes I put them at prime and in the main division to even out #'s), they get to the main division by getting to Prime, which happens at 7 wins or 12 fights. If a beginner drops to 5 loses below .500 he automatically goes prime and stays in club.

With McCoy I was a little surprised he stayed down as long as he did. He is rated a 6 and their aren't very many fighters in club with a better or equal rating.

[mh2365]

Four fighters got to move up to the main division

WW - Kid Graves (7-0) MD10 Dick Nelson (1-1)
LW - Tim Callahan (2-1) UD10 Young Joseph (3-7-2) ( Joseph backs into the main division because his 12th fight puts him at prime, he'll get his one fight at main then probably be right back to club)
BW - Kid Murphy (7-0) KO10 Barney Finnegan (1-1)
BW - Monte Attell (7-1) UD10 Jimmy Dunn (1-1)

[mh2365]

It's a busy championship month with 5 title bouts

HW - (LBA) Jack Johnson (23-1) vs. #2 James Jeffries (26-3)
LHW - (LBA) Morris Harris (6-6) vs. #6 John Donaldson (8-5)
WW - (LBC) Peter Jackson (10-3) vs. #2 Jack Britton (9-1)
FW - (LBA) Young Griffo (22-4-3) vs #13 Clarence Forbes (9-6) (Not a top ten opponent but Griffo's last fight was a non-title bout and I wanted this to be a tittle defense Forbes was the highest rated fighter who was qualified)
BW - (LBC) Owen Moran (18-3-3) vs. #4 Watty Austin (8-6-1)

Also this month is the month that each fighter is fighting the next ranked fighter. I've decided to do this twice a year, probabley April and August.

[javier_83]

CAn Griffo lose his title because que doesnt defend it?

[mh2365]

No, I have different qualifications on whether a fight is a title fight. Being commissioner sometimes I suspend those rules.

The challanger has to come from a fighter that is scheduled to fight. He has to be ranked in the top ten. He has to have not lost his last fight. If no one qualifies, the champ will step out of the division to fight a non-title fight. I don't want a scenario where he fights a non-title fight within the division and loses.

The main time I break my own rules, like in the Jeffries/Johnson fight this month, is when the challenger lost his last fight in a title fight. With Griffo this month, I scheduled an even # of fighters in each division because I was fighting guys against their closest rated competitor. Forbes was the highest rated fighter to have won his last fight. His only other option was #8 Billy Finucane, who had won his last fight, but had lost 4 out of 5 and had a losing record. I thought Forbes was a better challenger.

[djday45]

Originally Posted by mh2365

If no one qualifies, the champ will step out of the division to fight a non-title fight. I don't want a scenario where he fights a non-title fight within the division and loses.

Mmm, why not? this is quite historical. Boxing history is littered with examples of Champs taking non title fights and being upset or embarressed by lunheralded opponents.
All that usually happened was that the champ gave the underdog a shot at the title.

Sometimes it was suspected that the champ purposefully held back in the 1st fight to give humself an easy title defence.

rgds
Dean

[mh2365]

Yeah I realize that it happened ... I just would like to avoid it in my universe ... I usually have them fight someone above them where the title wouldn't change hands anyways .... just a personal preference is all.

[mh2365]

April 2nd, 1907

Jack Johnson (24-1) cruised to a TKO9 over #2 James Jeffries (26-4). In a fight many felt would be a test if not the end of Johnson title reign, Johnson quickly proved his detractors to be wrong.

After punishing Jeffries in the first, Johnson floored him in the 2nd. Jeffries right eye began to swell in the second and was never in the fight.

Johnson won every round continuing to work on the right eye. With the eye almost swollen shut, the ref stopped the fight in the 9th when a bad cut opened up above the swollen eye.

On the undercard

LHW - Joe Choynski (21-8-1) KO6 Gunner Moir (7-6-1) ( one of the most brutal beatings in LBA history. Joe cut Gunner 4 times, swelled up both eyes, and knocked Moir down 9 times, including 5 times in the 6th, before Moir finally stayed down for good)
MW - Al Greenfield (13-15-3) DRAW10 Joe Thomas (7-0-1)
LW - Jack Blackburn (16-7-4) DRAW10 Dave Holly (7-5-4)
HW - John Haines (13-12-2) UD10 Herbert Slade (10-13-1)
HW - Tom Lees (14-12) KO7 Bill Farnam (9-14-1)

[javier_83]

Jack Jhonson have a lost

who beat it?

[mh2365]

Johnson lost his second fight a UD10 to Peter Jackson. He avenged that loss later with a UD15 to take the title from Jackson. The two have never had a rubber match.

[javier_83]

oh ok

thanks my friend

[mh2365]

Just a quick note ... it may be a week or so before I post here on my universe .... I have to reset my spreadsheet, and with over 500 fighters, it may take me a while.