Louisville Boxing Association - Page 28

mh2365 · 04-03-2005, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by javier_83

how are you goona choose if a fighter come back?

At the end of the following year the will have a 50% chance of coming back. If they fail to come back then the second year they are retired they will have a 25% chance.

mh2365 · 04-03-2005, 12:44 PM

fighters = 130, ranked = 86, club = 55, beginners = 16

Ed Dunkhorst (18-13-3) retired.

Most wins - Johnson 28
win % - Jeannette 100%
stop % - Jeffries 78.1%
pp - Johnson 86.5
most fights - Dunkhorst and Stelzner 34
cons. wins - Johnson 27
cons. stops - Jeffries 15

"Next" Hw fighters (at least 6 fights)

Joe Jeannette 13-0
Frank Mantell 6-0
Dick Matthews 6-0

rankings and title lineage attached below

mh2365 · 04-03-2005, 06:56 PM

fighters = 56, ranked = 25, club = 25, beginner = 12

most wins - Root 26
win % - O'Brien 82.6%
stop % - Barry & Choynski 50%
pp - root 29.5
most fights - Root 34
cons. wins - Root 15
cons. stops - Haghey 5

"Next" fighters

Sailor Brown 6-0
Charlie Haghey 7-0
Larry Temple 9-0

mh2365 · 04-04-2005, 04:10 AM

fighters = 66, ranked = 39, club = 22, beginners = 12

retired - Jack Dempsey (see LBA retired thread) 30-4

most wins - Ryan & Dempsey 30
win % - Ryan and Papke 100%
stop % - Papke 80%
pp - Ryan 89.7
most fights - M. Donovan 35
cons. wins - Ryan 30
cons stops - Fitzsimmons 8

"Next" middleweight fighters

Billy Papke 10-0
Sailor Burke 6-0
Young Kid Broad 6-0

rankings and title lineage attached

mh2365 · 04-04-2005, 04:23 AM

fighters = 47, ranked = 22, club = 17, beginners = 9

most wins - Gans 24
win % - Gans 85.7%
stop % - West 63.6%
pp - Jackson 92.7
most fights - Kid 30
cons. wins - Gans 16
cons. stops - West 6

"Next" Welterweights

Mysterious Billy Smith 6-0
Kid Graves 9-0
Terry Martin 8-0

rankings and title lineage attached

mh2365 · 04-04-2005, 04:50 AM

fighters = 74, ranked = 30, club = 31, beginner = 23

most wins - McAuliffe 35
win % - Welsh 84.6%
stop % - McAuliffe 48.4%
pp - McAuliffe 51.4
most fights - Lyons 35
cons. wins - McAuliffe 15
cons. stops - Mehegan 4

"Next" lightweight

Young Erne 7-0

rankings and lineage attached

mh2365 · 04-04-2005, 04:54 AM

fighters = 82, ranked = 17, club = 37, beginner = 31

Most wins - Driscoll and Attell - 28
win % - Driscoll 84.8%
stop % - Curley 46.2%
pp - Driscoll 55.1
most fights - Attell 35
cons wins - Driscoll 11
cons. stops - Snailham and McCarthy 5

"Next" featherweight

Charlie Griffin 8-0
Cal McCarthy 6-0
Johnny Kilbane 6-0
Eugene Hornbacher 6-0

rankings and lineage attached

mh2365 · 04-04-2005, 04:57 AM

fighters = 54, ranked = 26, club = 26, beginners = 11

most wins - McGovern 25
win % - Murphy 100%
stop % - mcGovern 62.5%
pp - Dixon 56.7
most fights - Bowker 36
cons wins - coulon 11
cons stops - mcgovern 7

"Next" bantamweight

Kid Murphy 10-0
Dave Sullivan 6-0-1

rankings and lineage attached

mh2365 · 04-04-2005, 11:15 AM

rank-fighter- weight- record - p4p points- (+/-movement)
1. Tommy Ryan (MW) (30-0) - 22* (0)
2. Jack Johnson (HW) (28-1) - 37* (+3)
3. Jem Driscoll (FW) (28-5) - 40* (+5)
4. Joe Gans (WW) (24-2-2) - 59 (-2) (highest non-champ)
5. Peter Jackson (HW) (26-5) - 70* (+9) (biggest climber)
6. Bob Fitzsimmons (MW) (24-4) - 74 (-2)
7. Young Griffo (FW) (24-5-3) - 75 (-1)
7. Jim Jeffries (HW) (27-5) - 75 (+2)
9. Terry McGovern (BW) (25-5-2) - 76* (NR)
10. Jack McAuliffe (LW) (25-4-2) - 83* (NR)
11. Abe Attell (FW) (28-6-1) - 85 (-4)
12. Johnny Coulon (BW) (15-1) - 90 (-2)
13. Young Peter Jackson (WW) (14-3)* - 94 (NR)
14. John L. Sullivan (HW) (25-6) - 98 (-4)
15. Jack Root (LHW) (26-7-1) - 100 (NR)

dropped out

Jack Dempsey
Kyle Whitney
Joe Choynski
Stanley Ketchel

mh2365 · 04-04-2005, 11:27 AM

For the beginning of year 1908

8 fighters had a chance to move up
2 did

LH - Joe Choynski had a 44% chance to move up and did
MW - Joe Butler had a 39% chance to move up and did

fighters who did not

LH - Jack Root (52%)
MW - Bob Fitzsimmons (60%)
WW - Joe Walcott (30%)
LW - Billy Meyer (42%)
FW - Abe Attell (54%)
BW - George Dixon (42%)

mh2365 · 04-06-2005, 06:40 AM

Several new fighters joining the LBA this year - here are the #'s and anyone rated 8 or over

HW - 24 fighters - Frank Moran 8, Jeff Clark 8
LHW - 12 fighters - Bob McAllister 9, Georges Carpentier 9, Jack Dillon 12
MW - 24 fighters - Mike Gibbons 11
WW - 21 fighters - Tom McAlpine 9, Willie Schaeffer 8, Mike Glover 8
LW - 36 fighters - lots of 5-7 rated fighters
FW - 9 fighters
BW - 20 fighters - Jimmy Barry 11, Harry Harris 9, Frankie Burns 10
FLY - 6 fighters - dropped 3 BW into this class to increase #'s

CONN CHRIS · 04-06-2005, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

Several new fighters joining the LBA this year - here are the #'s and anyone rated 8 or over

LHW - 12 fighters - Bob McAllister 9, Georges Carpentier 9, Jack Dillon 12

Hey, one of my recent creations made the cut

Now I suppose I'll have to follow along.

By the way, Boxrec lists McAllister as a MW. I put him at LH due to his average weight and opponent list, you could put him in either division (One of his three losses was to Gibbons who you have starting this year as well)

mh2365 · 04-06-2005, 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Hey, one of my recent creations made the cut

Now I suppose I'll have to follow along.

By the way, Boxrec lists McAllister as a MW. I put him at LH due to his average weight and opponent list, you could put him in either division (One of his three losses was to Gibbons who you have starting this year as well)

I'll leave him in LHW since that division is weak and took a hit with Choynski moving up to HW. If you follow, you won't see much of him this year, as I tend not to say too much about beginners until they get their 5th win and move up.

I know I lowered the rating of a couple of guys that were too high IMO, I don't think he was one, but Gibbons might have been. No disrespect to your ratings meant.

mh2365 · 04-06-2005, 04:23 PM

Total fighters = 664

HW - 40 beg, 55 club, 60 main = 155 total
LHW - 24 beg, 25 club, 19 main = 68 total
MW - 36 beg, 22 club, 31 main = 89 total
WW - 30 beg, 18 club, 20 main = 68 total
LW - 59 beg, 31 club, 20 main = 110 total
FW - 40 beg, 37 club, 14 main = 91 total
BW - 31 beg, 26 club, 17 main = 74 total
FLY - 7 beg, 2 club = 9 total

Also there will be no LBF champion until the weight class has 40 fighters in the main division. So HW will remain the only division with a LBF champ for the time being.

Also I am expanding HW championship qualifications for a title shot to top 20.

javier_83 · 04-07-2005, 12:26 AM

no new mexican fighters?

mh2365 · 04-07-2005, 04:24 AM

no new mexican fighters

mh2365 · 04-09-2005, 03:18 PM

This took me a while since I am having to change all the fighters to retired and their current stage, but the beginners went 90-10-8 ... a few more losses now that the fighters are actually in the beginner stage. Several fighters moved up to club ranks

HW - Bill McKinnon (5-1)
LHW - Ralph Calloway (5-1-1), Alec Greggains (5-0), John Wille (5-1)
MW - Tony Caponi (5-1), Dick Barker (5-0)
WW - Billy Nalley (5-1), Andy Watson (5-1)
LW - Arthur Douglas (5-0), Willie Fitzgerald (5-0), Paddy Sullivan (5-1)
FW -Billy Ryan (5-1), Charles Slusher (5-0)
BW - Paddy Kelly (5-1), Biz Mackey (5-1)

mh2365 · 04-10-2005, 12:57 PM

Only 4 title fights this month

HW - Dominic McCaffrey (19-7-3) vs #5 John J. Dwyer (19-6-1) (Never fought)
WW - Peter Jackson (14-3) vs #7 Dick Burge (12-15-2) (never fought .. Burge qualifies under my rules)
FW - Solly Smith (14-14-3) vs #1 Aurelio Herrera (11-5) (Herrera scored a UD10 over Smith in 1905 ... this is his best chance to win a title needs to do it now)
BW - Terry McGovern (25-5-2) vs #2 Johnny Coulon (15-1) (should be a good one)

javier_83 · 04-10-2005, 01:26 PM

FW - Solly Smith (14-14-3) vs #1 Aurelio Herrera (11-5)

COME ON AURELIO!!

A ENTIRE COUNTRY ARE ON YOUR SHOULDER

make some intercontinental Titles or something like that, to the ones who are Pre-Prime or stuff like that :P

mh2365 · 04-11-2005, 05:15 AM

January 3, 1908

Dominic McCaffrey (20-7-3) scored an easy UD15 over #5 John J. Dwyer (19-7-1) for his second defense of his LBC Heavyweight title.

Dwyer was competitive in the early going winning the first 3 rounds, but then it was all McCaffrey from then on. Dominic didn't lose a round after the 7th. Neither fighter was down, Dwyer was cut over the left eye in the 3rd.

Dwyer is now 0-3 in title matches.

Both Dan Cuoco, ringside, and I had it 147-139. The official judges had it 148-139/147-140/146-139.

On the undercard

HW - Tommy Dugan (9-1) UD10 Morris Grant (11-14-5)
HW - John Heenan (18-6-1) KO9 Tom Allen (16-10)
MW - Sailor Burke (7-0) KO3 Johnny McGlade (10-17-3) (Burke fought at pp for this club fight)
LW - Young Otto (6-13-2) UD8 Irish Jack Smith (5-1) (Smith fought at pp for this club fight)
LW - Jimmy Mitchell (12-19-1) TKO4 Austin Gibbons (14-16-2) (Gibbons blew a big opportunity to go back to main and prime in this club fight)

04-03-2005, 12:44 PM	#542 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Heavyweight ranking end of 1907 fighters = 130, ranked = 86, club = 55, beginners = 16 Ed Dunkhorst (18-13-3) retired. Most wins - Johnson 28 win % - Jeannette 100% stop % - Jeffries 78.1% pp - Johnson 86.5 most fights - Dunkhorst and Stelzner 34 cons. wins - Johnson 27 cons. stops - Jeffries 15 "Next" Hw fighters (at least 6 fights) Joe Jeannette 13-0 Frank Mantell 6-0 Dick Matthews 6-0 rankings and title lineage attached below Last edited by mh2365 : 04-15-2007 at 08:11 PM.

04-03-2005, 06:56 PM	#543 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Lightheavyweight rankings end of 1907 fighters = 56, ranked = 25, club = 25, beginner = 12 most wins - Root 26 win % - O'Brien 82.6% stop % - Barry & Choynski 50% pp - root 29.5 most fights - Root 34 cons. wins - Root 15 cons. stops - Haghey 5 "Next" fighters Sailor Brown 6-0 Charlie Haghey 7-0 Larry Temple 9-0 Last edited by mh2365 : 04-15-2007 at 08:12 PM.

04-04-2005, 04:10 AM	#544 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Middleweight Rankings end of 1907 fighters = 66, ranked = 39, club = 22, beginners = 12 retired - Jack Dempsey (see LBA retired thread) 30-4 most wins - Ryan & Dempsey 30 win % - Ryan and Papke 100% stop % - Papke 80% pp - Ryan 89.7 most fights - M. Donovan 35 cons. wins - Ryan 30 cons stops - Fitzsimmons 8 "Next" middleweight fighters Billy Papke 10-0 Sailor Burke 6-0 Young Kid Broad 6-0 rankings and title lineage attached Last edited by mh2365 : 04-15-2007 at 08:12 PM.

04-04-2005, 04:23 AM	#545 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Welterweight rankings end of 1907 fighters = 47, ranked = 22, club = 17, beginners = 9 most wins - Gans 24 win % - Gans 85.7% stop % - West 63.6% pp - Jackson 92.7 most fights - Kid 30 cons. wins - Gans 16 cons. stops - West 6 "Next" Welterweights Mysterious Billy Smith 6-0 Kid Graves 9-0 Terry Martin 8-0 rankings and title lineage attached Last edited by mh2365 : 04-15-2007 at 08:12 PM.

04-04-2005, 04:50 AM	#546 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Lightweight rankings end of 1907 fighters = 74, ranked = 30, club = 31, beginner = 23 most wins - McAuliffe 35 win % - Welsh 84.6% stop % - McAuliffe 48.4% pp - McAuliffe 51.4 most fights - Lyons 35 cons. wins - McAuliffe 15 cons. stops - Mehegan 4 "Next" lightweight Young Erne 7-0 rankings and lineage attached Last edited by mh2365 : 04-15-2007 at 08:12 PM.

04-04-2005, 04:54 AM	#547 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Featherweight rankings end of 1907 fighters = 82, ranked = 17, club = 37, beginner = 31 Most wins - Driscoll and Attell - 28 win % - Driscoll 84.8% stop % - Curley 46.2% pp - Driscoll 55.1 most fights - Attell 35 cons wins - Driscoll 11 cons. stops - Snailham and McCarthy 5 "Next" featherweight Charlie Griffin 8-0 Cal McCarthy 6-0 Johnny Kilbane 6-0 Eugene Hornbacher 6-0 rankings and lineage attached Last edited by mh2365 : 04-15-2007 at 08:12 PM.

04-04-2005, 04:57 AM	#548 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Bantamweight rankings end of 1907 fighters = 54, ranked = 26, club = 26, beginners = 11 most wins - McGovern 25 win % - Murphy 100% stop % - mcGovern 62.5% pp - Dixon 56.7 most fights - Bowker 36 cons wins - coulon 11 cons stops - mcgovern 7 "Next" bantamweight Kid Murphy 10-0 Dave Sullivan 6-0-1 rankings and lineage attached Last edited by mh2365 : 04-15-2007 at 08:12 PM.

04-04-2005, 11:15 AM	#549 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	end of 1907 pound for pound rank-fighter- weight- record - p4p points- (+/-movement) 1. Tommy Ryan (MW) (30-0) - 22* (0) 2. Jack Johnson (HW) (28-1) - 37* (+3) 3. Jem Driscoll (FW) (28-5) - 40* (+5) 4. Joe Gans (WW) (24-2-2) - 59 (-2) (highest non-champ) 5. Peter Jackson (HW) (26-5) - 70* (+9) (biggest climber) 6. Bob Fitzsimmons (MW) (24-4) - 74 (-2) 7. Young Griffo (FW) (24-5-3) - 75 (-1) 7. Jim Jeffries (HW) (27-5) - 75 (+2) 9. Terry McGovern (BW) (25-5-2) - 76* (NR) 10. Jack McAuliffe (LW) (25-4-2) - 83* (NR) 11. Abe Attell (FW) (28-6-1) - 85 (-4) 12. Johnny Coulon (BW) (15-1) - 90 (-2) 13. Young Peter Jackson (WW) (14-3)* - 94 (NR) 14. John L. Sullivan (HW) (25-6) - 98 (-4) 15. Jack Root (LHW) (26-7-1) - 100 (NR) dropped out Jack Dempsey Kyle Whitney Joe Choynski Stanley Ketchel

04-04-2005, 11:27 AM	#550 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Fighter Movement For the beginning of year 1908 8 fighters had a chance to move up 2 did LH - Joe Choynski had a 44% chance to move up and did MW - Joe Butler had a 39% chance to move up and did fighters who did not LH - Jack Root (52%) MW - Bob Fitzsimmons (60%) WW - Joe Walcott (30%) LW - Billy Meyer (42%) FW - Abe Attell (54%) BW - George Dixon (42%)

04-06-2005, 06:40 AM	#551 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	1908 new fighters Several new fighters joining the LBA this year - here are the #'s and anyone rated 8 or over HW - 24 fighters - Frank Moran 8, Jeff Clark 8 LHW - 12 fighters - Bob McAllister 9, Georges Carpentier 9, Jack Dillon 12 MW - 24 fighters - Mike Gibbons 11 WW - 21 fighters - Tom McAlpine 9, Willie Schaeffer 8, Mike Glover 8 LW - 36 fighters - lots of 5-7 rated fighters FW - 9 fighters BW - 20 fighters - Jimmy Barry 11, Harry Harris 9, Frankie Burns 10 FLY - 6 fighters - dropped 3 BW into this class to increase #'s

04-06-2005, 04:23 PM	#554 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	Total Fighter count for 1908 Total fighters = 664 HW - 40 beg, 55 club, 60 main = 155 total LHW - 24 beg, 25 club, 19 main = 68 total MW - 36 beg, 22 club, 31 main = 89 total WW - 30 beg, 18 club, 20 main = 68 total LW - 59 beg, 31 club, 20 main = 110 total FW - 40 beg, 37 club, 14 main = 91 total BW - 31 beg, 26 club, 17 main = 74 total FLY - 7 beg, 2 club = 9 total Also there will be no LBF champion until the weight class has 40 fighters in the main division. So HW will remain the only division with a LBF champ for the time being. Also I am expanding HW championship qualifications for a title shot to top 20.

04-07-2005, 12:26 AM	#555 (permalink)
javier_83 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,367	no new mexican fighters?

04-07-2005, 04:24 AM	#556 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	no new mexican fighters

04-09-2005, 03:18 PM	#557 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	January 1908 beginners This took me a while since I am having to change all the fighters to retired and their current stage, but the beginners went 90-10-8 ... a few more losses now that the fighters are actually in the beginner stage. Several fighters moved up to club ranks HW - Bill McKinnon (5-1) LHW - Ralph Calloway (5-1-1), Alec Greggains (5-0), John Wille (5-1) MW - Tony Caponi (5-1), Dick Barker (5-0) WW - Billy Nalley (5-1), Andy Watson (5-1) LW - Arthur Douglas (5-0), Willie Fitzgerald (5-0), Paddy Sullivan (5-1) FW -Billy Ryan (5-1), Charles Slusher (5-0) BW - Paddy Kelly (5-1), Biz Mackey (5-1)

04-10-2005, 12:57 PM	#558 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	January title fights Only 4 title fights this month HW - Dominic McCaffrey (19-7-3) vs #5 John J. Dwyer (19-6-1) (Never fought) WW - Peter Jackson (14-3) vs #7 Dick Burge (12-15-2) (never fought .. Burge qualifies under my rules) FW - Solly Smith (14-14-3) vs #1 Aurelio Herrera (11-5) (Herrera scored a UD10 over Smith in 1905 ... this is his best chance to win a title needs to do it now) BW - Terry McGovern (25-5-2) vs #2 Johnny Coulon (15-1) (should be a good one)

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04-10-2005, 01:26 PM	#559 (permalink)
javier_83 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 2,367	FW - Solly Smith (14-14-3) vs #1 Aurelio Herrera (11-5) COME ON AURELIO!! A ENTIRE COUNTRY ARE ON YOUR SHOULDER make some intercontinental Titles or something like that, to the ones who are Pre-Prime or stuff like that :P

04-11-2005, 05:15 AM	#560 (permalink)
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,963 Warnings: 2	McCaffrey cruises to easy win over Dwyer January 3, 1908 Dominic McCaffrey (20-7-3) scored an easy UD15 over #5 John J. Dwyer (19-7-1) for his second defense of his LBC Heavyweight title. Dwyer was competitive in the early going winning the first 3 rounds, but then it was all McCaffrey from then on. Dominic didn't lose a round after the 7th. Neither fighter was down, Dwyer was cut over the left eye in the 3rd. Dwyer is now 0-3 in title matches. Both Dan Cuoco, ringside, and I had it 147-139. The official judges had it 148-139/147-140/146-139. On the undercard HW - Tommy Dugan (9-1) UD10 Morris Grant (11-14-5) HW - John Heenan (18-6-1) KO9 Tom Allen (16-10) MW - Sailor Burke (7-0) KO3 Johnny McGlade (10-17-3) (Burke fought at pp for this club fight) LW - Young Otto (6-13-2) UD8 Irish Jack Smith (5-1) (Smith fought at pp for this club fight) LW - Jimmy Mitchell (12-19-1) TKO4 Austin Gibbons (14-16-2) (Gibbons blew a big opportunity to go back to main and prime in this club fight)