Louisville Boxing Association

[mh2365]

Only 3 title fights this month but a whopping 213 fighters in action (beginners through main)

HW - (LBA) Jack Johnson (30-1) vs. #5 James Jeffries (31-5) (Johnson was having all sorts of problems with Jeffries until he TKO'd him in the 9th back in 1907)

WW - (LBA) Honey Mellody (15-12) vs #10 Dal Hawkins (10-9-1) (Mellody continues to skate by as Britton didn't qualify because he was coming off a non-title bout draw, mellody beat Hawkins by UD10 in 1907)

BW - (LBC) Johnny Coulon (17-2) vs #19 Billy Plimmer (17-11-5) (Coulon won a UD10 in 1907, Plimmer is the highest ranked fighter who qualifies, he is coming off two wins and a draw for McGovern's title 3 months ago)

[Geebob]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Only 3 title fights this month but a whopping 213 fighters in action (beginners through main)

HW - (LBA) Jack Johnson (30-1) vs. #5 James Jeffries (31-5) (Johnson was having all sorts of problems with Jeffries until he TKO'd him in the 9th back in 1907)

WW - (LBA) Honey Mellody (15-12) vs #10 Dal Hawkins (10-9-1) (Mellody continues to skate by as Britton didn't qualify because he was coming off a non-title bout draw, mellody beat Hawkins by UD10 in 1907)

BW - (LBC) Johnny Coulon (17-2) vs #19 Billy Plimmer (17-11-5) (Coulon won a UD10 in 1907, Plimmer is the highest ranked fighter who qualifies, he is coming off two wins and a draw for McGovern's title 3 months ago)

Loving the thread!

Jack will keep it going with a TKO3 vs Jeffries.

Mellody v Hawkins --

Plimmer is due for a little luck, he'll win in a UD.

--JeffG

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by Geebob

Loving the thread!

Jack will keep it going with a TKO3 vs Jeffries.

Mellody v Hawkins --

Plimmer is due for a little luck, he'll win in a UD.

--JeffG

Thanks for the kind words .... I think maybe Johnson is ripe for the picking this month. In their previous match Jeffries was handling his own until the 9th.

Mellody is a humorous champ but I have found myself rooting for him.

Plimmer has been very unlucky since losing the championship, but I still think Coulon is a little too good for him.

[mh2365]

September 2, 1908

Jack Johnson (31-1) scored a UD15 over #5 James Jeffries (31-6) for his record 19th defense of the LBA HW title.

Johnson dominated the first 5 rounds to build a substantial lead. The 6th round was the best of the fight with both fighters landing big bombs. Johnson dropped to one knee late in the round giving Jeffries the advantage. Both came away from the round with a swollen eye.

Johnson suffered a cut over his left eye in the 7th, but then used his superior defense for the remainder of the fight to cruise to a victory.

I had it 146-140. Tom Trunzo, ringside expert, had it 145-140. The official judges saw it 144-141/145-141/146-140.

On the undercard

HW - John Sullivan (26-7) KO1 Sid Russell (8-5)
LH - Joe Butler (25-7-1) TKO1 Jack Graham (7-9)
MW - Jack Nelson (9-1) UD10 Jack Williams (12-3-1)
HW - Mick Dooley (8-22-1) TKO7 John McDermont (7-19-2) (club fight)
WW - Jim Judge (5-10-1) UD10 Bill Quinn (5-10-2) (club fight)

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September 23, 1908

In possibly the worst title fight card ever, #10 Dal Hawkins (11-9-1) scored a TKO14 to take the LBA title from Honey Mellody (15-13).

Hawkins dominated the fight in front of the 30-40 people still left in the arena. There was no cheering or boos during the fight but there was a lively debate about the future of the Geese out on Old Miller's pond.

Hawkins cut Mellody in the 3rd and Mellody never got any kind of rhythem going. Mellody hit the canvas in the 11th and was pretty much out on the ropes in the 14th.

I had it 125-122 at the time of the stoppage. Ringside expert, Markus Heinsohn, woke up long enough to have it 127-119.

On the sleeper card

HW - Bill Doherty (9-11-1) DRAW10 John Knifton (15-15-1)
FW - Martin Flaherty (8-7-3) SD10 Billy O'Donnell (7-6-2)
FW - Harry Decker (7-3) MD8 Billy Ryan (6-3) (both fighters at pre for this club fight)
MW - Jack Fitzgerald (5-4) UD8 Frank Slavin (3-21-2) (fitz at pre for this club fight)
LW - Mike Cushing (8-19-5) DRAW10 Young Joseph (4-10-3) (club fight)

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by mh2365

there was a lively debate about the future of the Geese out on Old Miller's pond.

Could you give us a few more details, that sounds sort of interesting.

Actually, I like these type of fights when they come up for me. (but don't like them enough to wish there were many of them) I enjoy the title fights where neither fighter should be there and then they live down to their expectations - it gets me wondering what long suffering fighter or unlikely champion in my universe could now walk in and take the belt.

Christopher

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Could you give us a few more details, that sounds sort of interesting.

Actually, I like these type of fights when they come up for me. (but don't like them enough to wish there were many of them) I enjoy the title fights where neither fighter should be there and then they live down to their expectations - it gets me wondering what long suffering fighter or unlikely champion in my universe could now walk in and take the belt.

Christopher

I don't mind the title fights, but that whole card was a crapper

[javier_83]

Is there a Fighter who can beat Jack Johnson, ??

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by javier_83

Is there a Fighter who can beat Jack Johnson, ??

It doesn't look like it, maybe Jeannette if the two ever meet.

[mh2365]

Anyone else have one of these guys who just won't win or lose? He is really starting to bother me

[mh2365]

September 29, 1908

Johnny Coulon (18-2) scored a UD15 over #19 Billy Plimmer (17-12-5) for his second defense of his LBC Bantamweight Title.

Coulon traded punches in the early rounds which was a tactical mistake. The two traded rounds also for the first 6 rounds. Coulon then went defensive and used his boxing skills and the night was over for Plimmer. Coulon won the 6th-11th round and cruised from there.

Both the ringside expert, George Thorn, and myself had it 145-140. The official judges had it 144-141/144-141/145-140.

on the undercard

WW - Mike Sullivan (11-14-4) UD10 Cy Flynn (8-3)
HW - Tom Lees (16-14) UD10 Billy Smith (18-10-1)
LH - Eddie McGoorty (9-1) KO3 Jim Jeffords (10-11) (mcgoorty stepped up to LHW for this win)
LW - Paddy Sullivan (7-2) SD8 Joe Stein (5-2) (both fighters at pp for this club fight)
MW - George Rooke (13-14-1) UD10 Matty Matthews (13-18-2) (Matthews stepped up to MW for this club fight)

[javier_83]

Any fight of Unification?

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by javier_83

Any fight of Unification?

None this month I still have only the one unified champ which is LW Jack McAuliffe

[mh2365]

Some movement this month although only 1 debut ranking


On the move

HW - Bill McKinnon (8-4) club to main, Bill Curran (8-2) club to main, Jim Harvey (8-2) club to main, Al Kubiak (8-1) club to main, Mervine Thompson (13-13-2) club to main, Bill Squires (11-11-1) club to main

LH - Jim Dunn (8-1) club to main

MW - Kid Carter (9-9-2) club to main, Jerry Jerome (8-1) club to main

FW - Johnny Griffin (8-0) club to main, Tommy White (8-3-2) club to main


Debut rankings

FW - Billy O' Donnell (7-6-2) A23, C23

[mh2365]

With the #'s getting smaller the beginners had a bit of a rough month going 47-13-7. Several of the winners moved up to club though.


HW- Jim Savage (5-0), Dutch Zimmer (5-0)

LH - Seaman Johnson (5-1), Louis Lester (2-5-1)

MW - Walter Burgo (4-3-1)

WW - Arthur Evernden (5-0), Pat Farley (5-1), Charles Gleason (5-0), Tom Meadows (5-0), Philadelphia Tommy Ryan (5-0)

LW - Jack Curley (5-0), Dan Custy (5-0), Joe Ellingsworth (5-0), Horace Leeds (5-0), Tommy O'Keefe (5-1), Jabez White (5-0-1)

FW - Jimmy Hall (5-0), Yankee Schwartz (5-0)

BW - Jimmy Gorman (5-0)


note **** Chris, McAlister didn't fight, but Gibbons moved to 3-0

[CONN CHRIS]

I have Seaman Johnson fighting as a HW - he is 15(4)-6-1 to-date

Thanks for the update on McAllister and Gibbons, their managers need to work a little harder at finding them bouts. There's no food on the table at this pace

Christopher

[mh2365]

I randomly throw some HW's down to LHW to help even out the #'s some ... usually 5 rated on down.

[mh2365]

4 title fights this month and 237 fighters in action (beginner to main)

HW - (LBC) Joe Jeannette (16-0) vs #11 Mike Schreck (19-13)
LHW - (UT) Jack O'Brien (LBC) (20-3-1) vs John Donaldson (LBA) (11-6) (2nd meeting between the two O'Brien won a UD10 in 8/04)
MW - (LBA) Tommy Ryan (33-0-1) vs #10 Jack Bonner (18-15-1)
LW - (LBC) Jack McAuliffe (26-5-2) vs #5 Harry Lyons (25-12-1)

***note*** McAuliffe is the unified champion but the LBC title is the only one up for grabs. They way it works is there is a 33% chance that the LBA title is up, 33% chance the LBC title is up, and a 34% chance that it's for the unified title. The organizations have agrees that it a UC loses one title he will be stripped of the other

[mh2365]

On a side note I am pleased with the results from my new routine on post-prime fighters. It lowers their overall rating by 1 (sometimes 2) and an 8 rated fighter is automatically losing to a 4 rated fighter.

Once again what I do is leave the fighter at prime but reduce his CFB/S by one, his HP by one, and his KD up by one.

When he goes to end, I then reduce his END by one, his DEF by one and his PL/PM by 2. That drops him another overall point

[mh2365]

Jack Dillon scored a first round TKO over Fred Cooley (6-13-1) to move to 6-0. Any fighter who undefeated with at least 6 wins is automatically "watched" during fights, which means no more fast sim fights until he loses. It also means he is automatically on a fight card every time he is scheduled to fight.

**** club division fights that don't have an undefeated fighter in them are simmed using the scheduler feature, so I can get the # of fights divisible by six ***