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Old 03-21-2006, 07:41 PM   #1241 (permalink)
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Group movement after TC's

Going to seperate it so the list isn't as long at the EOM. All club to main unless noted

HW - Charley Mann (10-0), Jem Smith (10-3-1), Peter Felix (16-16-2)

LH - Seaman Johnson (10-3)

MW - John P Clow (20-20), Reginald Baker (10-4), Tommy Cleary (10-4-1), Ned McCann (10-3-1), Jack McGee (10-2)

WW - Pat Farley (10-5), Ted Lewis (10-1)

LW - Tom Collins (10-0), Kid Fredericks (10-0)

BW - Walter Croot (10-2-3)


** note *** Ted Lewis's lone loss was by disqualification to philadelphia Tommy Ryan ... he was way ahead on points at the time
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Old 03-22-2006, 05:16 AM   #1242 (permalink)
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McVey gets "must win"

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

August 1, 1910

HW - Sam McVey (70/26) (25-7) UD10 John Sullivan (7/27) (33-8) 97-93 (mcvey had 2 straight losses right before the ratings change ... really needed this win to get back into the mix)

HW - Jack Root (20/16) (34-9-2) UD10 Paddy Ryan (84/club) (9-14-2) (loss drops ryan to club)

HW - Bill Doherty (15/14) (14-13-2) DRAW10 Harry Smith (50/47) (13-4-2) (smith at pre)

MW - Kid Locke (23/21) (14-5) UD10 Jack Fitzgerald (51/51) (7-10-1) (both at pre)

FW - David Morgan (62/42) (10-7-1) UD10 Charles Slusher (17/38) (10-6-2) (both at pre)

HW - Fred Cooley (club) (11-15-1) UD8 James Couper (UR) (6-2-1) (couper at pre, cooley stepped up to HW for this club fight)
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Old 03-22-2006, 09:55 AM   #1243 (permalink)
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I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.


August 3,1 910

HW - Mike Schreck (72/71) (23-16) TKO8 Dan Flynn (90/93) (17-12) 69-63 (# 70 vs #90 for a main bout ... Schreck has quite the drawing power)

LH - Georges Carpentier (7/5) (15-1) KO10 Rough Thompson (25/29) (11-7) (both at pre)

MW - George Rooke (22/19) (20-16-1) UD10 Charles Goff (50/50) (13-11-2) (rooke has won 9 out of his last 11)

WW - Bartley Connolly (21/9) (12-3-2) TKO8 Kid Graves (9/10) (16-5-2) (connolly at pre.... graves injured his shoulder is out the remaining of the year)

FW - Percy Cove (60/60) (11-4-2) DRAW10 Young Byrnes (61/61) (9-9-2) (cove at pre)

LH - Jack Stewart (club) (11-18-4) KO10 PJ Rentzler (club) (13-21-4) (both at post for this club fight)
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:15 AM   #1244 (permalink)
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Great stuff as always Mike. That was a hell of a jump in the rankings by McVey, great win for him.
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Old 03-22-2006, 11:11 AM   #1245 (permalink)
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Great stuff as always Mike. That was a hell of a jump in the rankings by McVey, great win for him.
Yeah he got 218.88 points.
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Old 03-22-2006, 11:30 AM   #1246 (permalink)
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I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

August 5, 1910

LH - Jack Dillon (12/10) (16-0) TKO 6 Gunner Moir (40/club) (9-14-1) 50-45 (dillon at pre, moir drops to club with the loss)

MW - Walter Coffey (UR/22) (11-4) TKO9 Jeff Clarke (UR/25) (13-2) 77-74 (both at pre, big win for coffey - clarke down twice and cut badly)

FW - Young Griffo (13/12) (32-8-6) UD10 Al Wright (21/25) (8-6-2) (wright at pre)

BW - Joe Wagner (30/28) (14-14) UD10 Ned Morris (50/club) (5-10-2) (morris at pre, loss drops morris back to club)

HW - Pearce Henry (UR) (9-0) KO5 Henry Higgans (club/ret) (12-25) 40-34 (henry at pre, higgans at end for this club fight ... higgans retires after fight)

WW - Frank Soloman (club) (3-20-2) DRAW10 Otto Sieloff (club) (7-22-2) (sieloff at post for this club fight)
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Old 03-22-2006, 07:46 PM   #1247 (permalink)
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McAuliffe regains title

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

August 8, 1910

Jack McAuliffe (2/CH) (35-6-2) scored a UD15 over a game Freddie Welsh (8/8) (17-5-1) to win the WBC Lightweight title that was vacated with Herrera's win over Erne last month.

McAuliffe had KO'd Welsh in a previous meeting and it looked like it was going that way again when McAuliffe dropped Welsh in the 4th. This time Welsh got up and fought back.

He managed to win a few late rounds despite the KD, a swollen left eye and a cut over his right eye.

I had it 145-140. George Thorn ringside had it 146-139. The official judges had it 145-140/146-139/145-140.

On the undercard

FW - Tommy White (19/14) (13-7-3) TKO9 Jack Skelly (18/21) (12-3-1) 78-74 (skelly at pre)

HW - Dominic McCaffrey (3/3) (30-10-3) SD10 Frank Childs (30/33) (21-16-6) 98-94

MW - Jack Burke (37/31) (22-15-6) UD10 Sailor Burke (33/38) (13-5-1) (s. burke at pre)

FW - Kid Landfield (8/5) (13-12-2) UD10 Marty McCue (12/13) (15-15-1) (both of these guys are ranked a little high due to winning streaks before the rating change)

WW - Jimmy Conley (UR) (10-3) SD8 Billy West (UR) (5-4-3) (both at pre for this club fight ... conley moves up to main with the win)
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:36 AM   #1248 (permalink)
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I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.


August 10, 1910

LW - Tim Kearns (19/16) (11-7-3) TKO10 Ad Wolgast (41/49) (13-10) 89-82 (fight stopped with 1 second left to go in the fight)

FW - Billy Finucane (37/37) (12-11-4) DRAW10 Harry Paul (40/40) (13-6-1) (paul at pre)

HW - Nick Burley (87/86) (17-11) KO3 Sid Russell (94/94) (8-11-1)

MW - Bob Moha (9/9) (12-4-4) DRAW10 Billy Kramer (30/28) (10-6-1) (kramer at pre)

HW - Ned Cheeley (UR) (8-0-3) UD8 Charley Robinson (UR) (6-5) 79-76 (both at pre for this club fight)

LW - Jimmy Britt (club)(11-15-4) UD10 Jim Mitchell (club) (17-23-3) (mitchell at post for this club fight)
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Old 03-23-2006, 11:46 AM   #1249 (permalink)
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Coulon wins defense

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.

August 12, 1910

Johnny Coulon (CH) (24-3-2) scored a UD15 over Harry Ware (13/20) (12-13-2) to retain the WBC Bantamweight title.

Ware kept the fight close for the first 10 rounds before tiring and losing all five of the championship rounds.

Ware had some swelling with his right eye which started in the 9th, otherwise there were no knockdowns or cuts.

At the end of 10 I had it 96-94. My final score card was 146-139. Steve McCarthy ringside had it 145-140. The official judges agreed with us, two scored with Steve and the other with me.

On the undercard

HW - Frank Slavin (12/9) (26-14-1) KO9 Denver Ed Smith (36/52) (20-20-2) (smith at post)

HW - John Dwyer (41/36) (25-11-1) KO5 J. Barrington (24/30) (6-9-1) (barrington at pre ... rankings screw Dwyer)

WW - Dixie Kid (16/11) (20-15-5) SD10 Jewey Cooke (46/50) (12-9-3) 96-95 cooke (ringside expert also had it for Cooke .... Cooke stepped up to WW for this screwing)

HW - Gunboat Smith (UR) (10-0) UD8 Victor Mclaglen (UR) (7-5) 78-75 (both at pre for this club fight ... Smith moves up to main with the win)

LW - Jem Smith (UR) (10-1-2) UD8 Young Otto (club) (11-19-4) (smith at pre, otto at post for this club fight ... smith moves to main with the win)
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Old 03-23-2006, 12:49 PM   #1250 (permalink)
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the WBC Lightweight title that was vacated with Herrera's win over Erne last month.

why the title got vacated?
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Old 03-23-2006, 02:26 PM   #1251 (permalink)
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why the title got vacated?
Erne was the WBA and WBC champ but only the WBA was on the line when he lost to Herrera, by LBA rules the title that wasn't on the line is vacated.

Herrera is the WBA champ and now McAuliffe is the WBC champ. That would be a war if those two meet.
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Old 03-26-2006, 01:45 PM   #1252 (permalink)
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Corbett hands Johnson his 3rd loss

I am going to list the before and after rankings now on the fight cards listed as (before/after) all rankings will be the WBA rankings unless it's a title fight for another organization. Also I will list my scorecard on the fights I watch in bold.


August 14, 1910

James Corbett (4/CH) (31-8-3) finally broke through and took the IBF Heavyweight title via a controversial SD15 over champ Jack Johnson (CH/2) (37-3)

It was a pretty close fight throughout and many at ringside felt the champ had done enough to keep his title. There was no cuts, knockdowns or even swelling.

Johnson landed more punches but Corbett was more accurate.

I had it 145-143 Johnson. Jim Trunzo, ringside, had it 146-141 Johnson. The official judges had it 143-146/145-143/145-144.

The LBA has decided against a mandatory rematch as they ruled the fight was close enough to go either way.

On the undercard

MW - Billy Baker (12/12) (20-17-5) DRAW10 Joe Thomas (29/27) (14-5-4)

BW - Hugh McGovern (41/32) (8-6-5) UD10 Biz Mackey (18/33) (11-5-1) 98-93 (mackey at pre)

LW - Paul Koehler (UR) (9-2-2) DRAW10 Johnny Frayne (57/57) (8-10-1) (both at pre)

HW - Charley Richardson (UR) (10-0-3) UD8 Fred Crossley (club) (13-21-2) 78-72 (richardson at pre, crossley at post for this club fight ... richardson moves to main division)

LW - Dan Custy (UR) (9-1-2) UD8 Joe Cain (club) (2-16-3) (custy at pre for this club fight)
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Old 03-26-2006, 02:46 PM   #1253 (permalink)
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Wow, Corbett finally takes it, I guess you could consider it an upset considering Johnson's dominance. Is Corbett close to the twilight of his career yet or does he have a few good years still?
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Old 03-26-2006, 03:22 PM   #1254 (permalink)
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That is pretty amazing Corbett taking the belt. Johnson dominated Corbett in my uni.
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Old 03-26-2006, 05:15 PM   #1255 (permalink)
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Corbett surprised me, but I have to hold my hands up and say I thought Johnson would take it [see previous post]. Excellent stuff Mike. I love this uni.
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Like the three above I'm quite suprised that Corbett managed to take the belt off of Johnson but I'm still takin Johnson in the rematch. At least Corbett got ahold of the belt even if it'll probably be only for a short while.
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Old 03-26-2006, 08:48 PM   #1257 (permalink)
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Corbett and Johnson have had two 15 round split decisions in my uni. Both have taken one. I'm sure they will meet again. Corbett was prime when the aging changed so he still has a long career ahead of him. But he is in the random retirement range now.
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Corbett and Johnson have had two 15 round split decisions in my uni. Both have taken one. I'm sure they will meet again. Corbett was prime when the aging changed so he still has a long career ahead of him. But he is in the random retirement range now.
If he does have to retire hopefully he goes out the champ. I just wanna see Corbett/Johnson 3 first.
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If he does have to retire hopefully he goes out the champ. I just wanna see Corbett/Johnson 3 first.
His retirement chances are slim right now. 50% chance he has to roll for retirement and then it would only be a 12% chance after that. I imagine we will see a rematch before that.
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McAllister handles a crafty veteran

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August 16, 1910

Bob McAllister (UR) (13-1) is now one fight away from being ranked as he scored another victory with a UD10 over Al Kaufmann (18/21) (12-13-1).

Fairly boring fight with no KD's, cut or swelling. Kaufmann hung around the first half of the fight and then McAllister finished strong to take the decision.

I had it 98-93. Andreas Raht, ringside expert, had it 96-95. The official judges had it 96-95/97-94/98-93.

On the undercard

WW - Tom McAlpine (UR/13) (12-3) TKO9 Fighting Kennedy (39/42) (9-7-1) (both at pre)

HW - Jem Mace (82/77) (18-12-2) KO3 Al Kubiak (56/73) (10-7)

LW - Herb McCoy (UR) (11-0) UD10 Arthur Cote (44/49) (11-7-1) 97-92 (both at pre)

MW - George Brown (UR) (9-0) KO3 Herb Goddard (UR) (3-3-3) 20-18 (both at pre for this club fight)

FW - Billy Whistler (club) (11-15-5) MD8 Patsy Kline (UR) (7-4-2) (kline at pre for this club fight)
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