The Heavyweight Boxing Federation

[javier_83]

do you think Haynes can win the tournament??

[kenyan_cheena]

Originally Posted by javier_83

do you think Haynes can win the tournament??

He has a great chance of finishing 1st in his group and the result of him doing that will be a World Ranking around the 60 range once all the HBF's tournaments are over. Compare that to the guys in the QL who will have to start at the bottom of the rankings and Haynes will be in a good position to challenge for the World Championship in quick time if he keeps on winning.

[kenyan_cheena]

Sunday 10 November 2002

HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING FEDERATION
FIGHT CARD SCHEDULE
MONDAY 11/11/2002 - SUNDAY 17/11/2002 INCLUSIVE


TUESDAY 12/11/2002

HBF QUALIFYING LEAGUE, INITIAL RANKING TOURNAMENT
STAGE 1, SERIES 3: GROUPS 3 & 10
MADISON SQUARE GARDEN, NEW YORK, NEW YORK, USA

(G3): 4(46) Zolilie Letlake vs 5(58) Hans Birkie
(G10): 4(39) Bruce Crickett vs 5(51) Charley Powell
(G3): 3(34) Bran Baggett vs 6(70) Chris Creed
(G10): 3(27) Clarence Burman vs 6(63) Orlin Norris
(G3): 2(22) Bobby Halpern vs 7(82) Mikkel Randeris
(G10): 2(15) Roberto Davila vs 7(75) Nicolas Gallas
(G10): 1(10) Lennox Lewis vs 8(87) Taoufik Belbouli
(G3): 1(3) Bob Pastor vs 8(94) Ariel Reyes


THURSDAY 14/11/2002

HBF QUALIFYING LEAGUE, INITIAL RANKING TOURNAMENT
STAGE 1, SERIES 3: GROUPS 6 & 7
PARKEN STADIUM, OPENHAGEN, DENMARK

(G6): 4(43) Richard Dunn vs 5(55) Tim Carlisle
(G7): 4(42) Brett Ranford vs 5(54) Roy Harris
(G6): 3(31) Leonardo Barbaressi vs 6(67) David Kane
(G7): 3(30) Cleaver Twidell vs 6(66) Dre Linton
(G6): 2(19) Alexander Dafouska vs 7(79) John Tate
(G7): 2(18) Allan Horace vs 7(78) Mark Elwood
(G7): 1(7) Tom Heeney vs 8(90) Jan Podolski
(G6): 1(6) Flemming Ekelund vs 8(91) Sergey Pogrebnyak


SUNDAY 17/11/2002

HBF WORLD RANKING TOURNAMENT
GROUP 2, SERIES 1
SURELERE STADIUM, LAGOS, NIGERIA

(6) Steffen Tangstad (8) Olle Tandberg
(5) Karl Mildenberger vs (7) Jurgen Blin
(4) Rosco Toles vs (9) Heinz Neuhaus
(3) Markus Stober vs (11) Luis Firpo
(2) Harry Wills vs (10) Mike DeJohn
(1) Ike Ibeabuchi vs (12) Joe Baksi

[kenyan_cheena]

This thread is now FOUR YEARS OLD!!!

:frid ay:

[kenyan_cheena]

LEWIS "RELIEVED" FOLLOWING
QUALIFYING LEAGUE DEBUT

Tuesday 12 November 2002

Olympic Super-Heavyweight Champion Lennox Lewis stepped into the ring for the first time in almost three months tonight, the Canadian scoring a majority decision win over the Frenchman Taoufik Belbouli in an HBF Qualifying League bout at New York's Madison Square Garden. It was a fight that was much more spectacular than expected, Lewis overcoming a furious start from Belbouli to take the verdict by scores of 59-56, 58-58 and 58-57. The opening three rounds featured some thunderous exchanges, Belbouli out to both maintain his perfect career start and add the name of the Olympic gold medallist to his list of victims. The tide turned in Lewis' favour in round four and he controlled the bottom half of the bout.

"Relieved more than anything," Lewis said when asked how he was feeling. "I know it's only been twelve weeks since my last fight but I have to say the time really has crawled along. It's been difficult just sitting back and watching all these other guys in action, both in the HBF and IBL. I've already had a couple of setbacks that made this year less than what it could have been for me. Firstly being unable to take part in the World Championship auditions and then failing in the Canadian League, you know, it's pushed me back from where I wanted to be right now. I'm just going to have to be patient, especially during these next twelve months as the QL continues. There's nothing more important for me than to get through it in good shape and secure one of those shots at a world ranking. It's gonna be tough 'cause there are some great fighters competing in it but I'll just have to take it one fight at a time."

In the evening's main event Florida Alliance member Ariel Reyes pushed the QL's #3 seed Bob Pastor all the way and ended up holding him to a draw. The tall Cuban-born fighter had looked impressive while scoring 4th round KO wins over both Mikkel Randeris and Hans Birkie to start his career but most thought that Pastor would be too classy for him. The New Yorker had fallen to his only defeat against Harry Wills in the final of the Atlantic Coast Boxing League tournament and knew from the opening round that Reyes was going to give him all he could handle. Pastor ate a number of punishing blows in that first stanza and he struggled to keep himself in the fight. Reyes enjoyed a one-point lead on all three cards going into the 4th but Pastor clawed his way back into the contest and each judge scored the bout a 57-57 draw.

[kenyan_cheena]

EKELUND GETS AMBUSHED
IN COPENHAGEN

Thursday 14 November 2002

The HBF Qualifying League's #6 seed Flemming Ekelund suffered an embarassing homeland defeat tonight, bombed out in four rounds by Russia's Sergey Pogrebnyak at Copenhagen's Parken Stadium. It was the second straight stoppage defeat for the Dane after being KO'd in round three by Ireland's Artuir Claffey in the final of the Northern European Boxing League tournament in September. Strangely the two losses have come after what was the best performance of his career to date when he upset Sweden's Ingemar Johansson in the North Euro semis. Ekelund looked fantastic in the opening round but walked straight into a wicked right hand early in the 2nd. From that point on the Russian was in command and he dominated round three and then punished Ekelund to such an extent in the 4th that referee Enzo Montero stopped the fight thirteen seconds from the bell. Ekelund is now 5-3(1) while Pogrebnyak improved to 2-1(1) with his second consecutive win.

New Zealand 7th seed Tom Heeney also had trouble in his co-feature bout against Germany's Jan Podolski. After six tough rounds the fight was scored a draw although there were some who thought Heeney was lucky to avoid defeat. Earlier on the card Florida's loose cannon David Kane kept his perfect KO record alive when he stopped Argentina's Leonardo Barbaressi thirty seconds into the final round with a single uppercut. Kane had a much tougher night than in his opening two contests, the stubborn Barbaressi frustrating him for much of the bout. That didn't stop the Orlando native from indulging in his usual bragadocious behaviour during the post-fight interview, spitting off some rapid-fire warnings to some of the other QL competitors. Detroit's Dre Linton also improved to 3-0, his bout against Cleaver Twidell stopped on cuts two minutes into round four. Twidell brought a four-fight winning streak into the evening but never looked like threatening the talented Michigan native.

Nebraska's Mark Elwood stepped into the ring hoping to put last month's narrow defeat at the hands of Linton behind him but got much more than he bargained for from the Australian Allan Horace. In a crazy, unpredictable fight the momentum swung back and forth from round to round, neither man able to hold the upperhand. The judge's verdicts reflected that, all three scoring the bout a 57-57 draw. Having already seen Linton stay perfect earlier in the night Elwood could only shake his head in frustration, his record now 1-1-1. While he's talented enough to secure a top two finish Elwood will need to avoid these types of results through the rest of stage one if he wants to achieve that goal.

[kenyan_cheena]

Been home sick from work today and used the time wisely. Three posts in my MLB thread plus one each in the HBF and IBL.

[kenyan_cheena]

IBEABUCHI VICTORIOUS IN
WORLD RANKING OPENER

Sunday 17 November 2002

Nigeria's premier boxer Ike Ibeabuchi improved his record to a perfect 8-0(1) tonight with a unanimous decision win over New York's Joe Baksi at the Surelere Stadium in Lagos (78-74, 77-75, 78-74). Baksi tested the World Ranking tournament #1 seed through the first four rounds but started to slow down in the 5th, leading to Ibeabuchi dominating the bottom half of the contest. Ibeabuchi was fighting in his homeland for the fourth time in his career and third time in a row, having been victorious in both the semi-finals and final of the African Boxing League tournament at the same venue in his previous two bouts.

In the co-feature New Orleans native Harry Wills scored a 6th round TKO of the New Yorker Mike DeJohn. Wills had been in control of the fight from the 1st round and dropped DeJohn with a left hook late in the 6th. He was up at three but the bout was stopped soon after, Wills recording the first stoppage win of his career. Other victors on the night included 3rd-seeded German Marcus Stober who improved to 7-1(1) with a unanimous decision win against Luis Firpo and 4th seed Rosco Toles, who defeated Stober's compatriot Heinz Neuhaus in the same manner.

[kenyan_cheena]

Sunday 17 November 2002

SUMMARY OF RESULTS
HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING FEDERATION FIGHT CARDS
MONDAY 11/11/2002 - SUNDAY 17/11/2002 INCLUSIVE


TUESDAY 12/11/2002

HBF QUALIFYING LEAGUE, INITIAL RANKING TOURNAMENT
STAGE 1, SERIES 3: GROUPS 3 & 10
MADISON SQUARE GARDEN, NEW YORK, NEW YORK, USA

(G3): 4(46) Zolilie Letlake UD6 5(58) Hans Birkie
(G10): 4(39) Bruce Crickett UD6 5(51) Charley Powell
(G3): 6(70) Chris Creed UD6 3(34) Bran Baggett
(G10): 3(27) Clarence Burman D6 6(63) Orlin Norris
(G3): 7(82) Mikkel Randeris UD6 2(22) Bobby Halpern
(G10): 2(15) Roberto Davila UD6 7(75) Nicolas Gallas
(G10): 1(10) Lennox Lewis MD6 8(87) Taoufik Belbouli
(G3): 1(3) Bob Pastor D6 8(94) Ariel Reyes


THURSDAY 14/11/2002

HBF QUALIFYING LEAGUE, INITIAL RANKING TOURNAMENT
STAGE 1, SERIES 3: GROUPS 6 & 7
PARKEN STADIUM, OPENHAGEN, DENMARK

(G6): 4(43) Richard Dunn D6 5(55) Tim Carlisle
(G7): 4(42) Brett Ranford TKO2 5(54) Roy Harris
(G6): 6(67) David Kane KO6 3(31) Leonardo Barbaressi
(G7): 6(66) Dre Linton TKO4 3(30) Cleaver Twidell
(G6): 7(79) John Tate UD6 2(19) Alexander Dafouska
(G7): 2(18) Allan Horace D6 7(78) Mark Elwood
(G7): 1(7) Tom Heeney D6 8(90) Jan Podolski
(G6): 8(91) Sergey Pogrebnyak TKO4 1(6) Flemming Ekelund


SUNDAY 17/11/2002

HBF WORLD RANKING TOURNAMENT
GROUP 2, SERIES 1
SURELERE STADIUM, LAGOS, NIGERIA

(6) Steffen Tangstad D8 (8) Olle Tandberg
(5) Karl Mildenberger SD8 (7) Jurgen Blin
(4) Rosco Toles UD8 (9) Heinz Neuhaus
(3) Markus Stober UD8 (11) Luis Firpo
(2) Harry Wills TKO6 (10) Mike DeJohn
(1) Ike Ibeabuchi UD8 (12) Joe Baksi

[kenyan_cheena]

Sunday 17 November 2002

HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING FEDERATION
FIGHT CARD SCHEDULE
MONDAY 18/11/2002 - SUNDAY 24/11/2002 INCLUSIVE


SUNDAY 24/11/2002

HBF EUROPEAN CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT, SERIES 2
ESTREL CONVENTION CENTER, BERLIN, GERMANY

(6) Tom Sharkey vs (7) Joe Erskine
(5) Peter Maher vs (9) Johnny Williams
(4) Hein Ten-Hoff vs (8) Franco Cavicchi
(3) Don Cockell vs (10) Otto Von Porat
(2) Joe Bugner vs (12) Billy Walker
(1) Bruce Woodcock vs (11) Dick Richardson


SUNDAY 24/11/2002

HBF AFRICAN CHAMPIONSHIP TOURNAMENT, SERIES 2
SURELERE STADIUM, LAGOS, NIGERIA

(6) Francois Burger vs (8) Obafemi Anichebe
(5) Samuel Peter vs (7) Nelson Ndungane
(4) Gerrie Coetzee vs (9) Jaque Botha
(3) Kallie Knoetze vs (10) Onyekachi Etuhu
(2) Johnny DuPlooy vs (12) Joseph Afolabi
(1) Johnny Arthur vs (11) Duncan Dokiwari

[kenyan_cheena]

Hello, everyone.

Been thinking a lot lately about the future of the HBF/IBL and have decided to blow the whole thing up and start a new uni. My main reason for doing this is that I feel I've overstretched myself, especially with the IBL. I have included TOO MANY of the top rated all-time greats in it, which IMO has diluted their talent because in this setting each of them is simply just one of many fantastic fighters competing. Another problem is that even if I cut right back on the detail I still won't be able to move as quickly as I want to. Life is too short, as they say. Now, I know I've been doing this for four years now and to quit at this point seems a silly and rash decision to make. But the new uni I am pondering will be very similar to my MLB one and will move along a whole lot quicker than the HBF/IBL.

What I would like is for everyone who has been a dedicated reader of the HBF/IBL and also had a fictional fighter competing in either one of them to just make a post here in the thread to let me know that you would like to be included in my new uni. I will be including the fictional fighters that were made for the HBF/IBL in the new uni in their present form but only if you request to be included in it. To put it bluntly I have no desire to include or write about a fictional fighter if I know the person who submitted it isn't reading and following the thread. Anyone who has been reading but doesn't have a fighter in it and would like one can also post their intentions if you want to.

As for the new uni, I don't want to give too much away but it will be a mixture of fictional and real fighters but I will be starting off with the boxing "world" in it already established. There will be some tournaments but, again, I don't want to give too much away about that. I plan on plotting out a back story that I can draw on and include in the uni. I will say that some of the storylines from the HBF/IBL, such as the entourages (Florida Alliance, etc.) and various rivalries will be transplanted over to the new uni.

I would like to thank every single person who has followed the HBF/IBL during these last four years. It's been a great ride and a big part of my life. I know it's disappointing that I never made it to the Championship bouts but that is something that will be rectified in the new uni.

Thanks.

[Claybor]

I am a bit disappointed to see things end, but a new beginning is allways interesting. Count my fictional fighter in (although I may change his name if thats ok) for whatever you do. I don't have a uni going currently, so a few of the 'inside the ropes' universes are all that I have right now. :]

[Romdawg88]

Man, it sucks to see the HBF/IBL go but can't say I'm too suprised. To me, with all the changes you have made it seem like things were slowly building to this point. I am happy to hear that your going to start another uni that is more to your liking and I'm looking forward to it. Of course, I want my fighter to be in the new uni though I am thinking about maybe making some changes to how he fights I'll let you know for sure tomorrow. One thing before you shut the door for good on the HBF/IBL can we get one more fight, Alvarez/Hanson needs to happen in this thread with all the hype it was getting.

[kenyan_cheena]

Originally Posted by Claybor

I am a bit disappointed to see things end, but a new beginning is allways interesting. Count my fictional fighter in (although I may change his name if thats ok) for whatever you do. I don't have a uni going currently, so a few of the 'inside the ropes' universes are all that I have right now. :]

Thanks, Claybor. I'm happy that you want to be included in my new uni.

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

Man, it sucks to see the HBF/IBL go but can't say I'm to suprised. To me, with all the changes you have made it seem like things were slowly building to this point. I am happy to hear that your going to start another uni that is more to your liking and I'm looking forward to it. Of course, I want my fighter to be in the new uni though I am thinking about maybe making some changes to how he fights I'll let you know for sure tomorrow. One thing before you shut the door for good on the HBF/IBL can we get one more fight, Alvarez/Hanson needs to happen in this thread with all the hype it was getting.

Thanks, Romy. Your support and enthusiasm has always been a great source of encouragement for me and I know it will continue to be so in the future.

One thing I forgot to mention in the last post is that if you guys want your fighter to be in a different weight division that's fine. There's no rush to give me any details as I'm going to take a couple of weeks to carefully plan out the new uni before starting it.

I was thinking that I might sim out the rest of the WC/1D tourneys just to see how they would have played out, at least so we find out who won them. I'd also be glad to run Alvarez/Hanson and do a write-up of it.

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

Thanks, Romy. Your support and enthusiasm has always been a great source of encouragement for me and I know it will continue to be so in the future.

One thing I forgot to mention in the last post is that if you guys want your fighter to be in a different weight division that's fine. There's no rush to give me any details as I'm going to take a couple of weeks to carefully plan out the new uni before starting it.

I was thinking that I might sim out the rest of the WC/1D tourneys just to see how they would have played out, at least so we find out who won them. I'd also be glad to run Alvarez/Hanson and do a write-up of it.

Sweet, I'm glad to hear that Alvarez/Hanson is going to happen. It would of been a shame if it didn't ever happen. Also, it's cool that you're thinking of simming out the WC/1D tourneys since that would at least give us some closure on the HBF. Might not be a bad idea to also sim the WD champion/1D champion match just so we can see how the WD winner does against Rocky.

I've decided on how I want to change my fighter for the next uni. All of the outside the ring stuff is perfect so I'd like to keep that the same. In ring, I want a super aggressive, quick starting, high endurance, high CF, accurate punching swarmer with a solid chin and defense and low power. Bascially, I'm looking for a Jose Medel style fighter. I think he should make for some fun fights.

Oh yeah, if I remember correctly don't you still use an older verision of TBCB? Have you thought about upgrading to TBCB 2.5 now that you're starting up a new uni? The RFG would help with the ficitional fighters you're creating and plus having access to the new database would be useful for the UTBA. Can't wait to see what you got cooked up for the new uni should be good times.

[kenyan_cheena]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

Sweet, I'm glad to hear that Alvarez/Hanson is going to happen. It would of been a shame if it didn't ever happen. Also, it's cool that you're thinking of simming out the WC/1D tourneys since that would at least give us some closure on the HBF. Might not be a bad idea to also sim the WD champion/1D champion match just so we can see how the WD winner does against Rocky.

I've decided on how I want to change my fighter for the next uni. All of the outside the ring stuff is perfect so I'd like to keep that the same. In ring, I want a super aggressive, quick starting, high endurance, high CF, accurate punching swarmer with a solid chin and defense and low power. Bascially, I'm looking for a Jose Medel style fighter. I think he should make for some fun fights.

Oh yeah, if I remember correctly don't you still use an older verision of TBCB? Have you thought about upgrading to TBCB 2.5 now that you're starting up a new uni? The RFG would help with the ficitional fighters you're creating and plus having access to the new database would be useful for the UTBA. Can't wait to see what you got cooked up for the new uni should be good times.

Yep, I'll even go the round-by-round route with the write-up of it. As for the WC and 1D what I'll do is sim the remaining stage two bouts, post the final standings with some notes on how the big fights turned out and then do some write-ups of the semis and finals. And yes, I'll also run one title defense which will feature the two tourney winners.

Thanks for the info on your fighter. Do you still want him to be a heavyweight? With that description he sounds like he'd be more suited to one of the lower divisions.

I'm thinking 'bout getting 2.5 but the exchange rate is terrible right now, something like $1 Aus dollar worth 65c US.

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

Yep, I'll even go the round-by-round route with the write-up of it. As for the WC and 1D what I'll do is sim the remaining stage two bouts, post the final standings with some notes on how the big fights turned out and then do some write-ups of the semis and finals. And yes, I'll also run one title defense which will feature the two tourney winners.

Thanks for the info on your fighter. Do you still want him to be a heavyweight? With that description he sounds like he'd be more suited to one of the lower divisions.

I'm thinking 'bout getting 2.5 but the exchange rate is terrible right now, something like $1 Aus dollar worth 65c US.

Cool, I'm hoping Alvarez/Hanson lives up to the hype and produces a fight worth the round by round treatment. I'm pumped that we'll get to find out the tournament winners in the coming weeks after this four year ride.

I was thinking the same thing that he sounds like he should be at LW or below. I'm leaning towards having him down there but on the other hand I do want to get to fight the other forum guys so if they all end up at HW I'd like to stay there you know. I guess pencil him in at one of the lower weightclasses, doesn't matter to me which one, for now but if alot of the forum guys choose to stay at HW throw him up there.

Ouch, that exchange rate does suck but hey sometimes you got to eat a hit for some entertainment you know.

[kenyan_cheena]

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

I was thinking the same thing that he sounds like he should be at LW or below. I'm leaning towards having him down there but on the other hand I do want to get to fight the other forum guys so if they all end up at HW I'd like to stay there you know. I guess pencil him in at one of the lower weightclasses, doesn't matter to me which one, for now but if alot of the forum guys choose to stay at HW throw him up there.

We'll see what happens, I guess. I might have to post a sign-up thread in General Discussions to draw more attention to it. I'm a little surprised only you and Claybor have responded so far. But I'm not in any rush to get it started.

I've started plotting out some back stories for fighters who will feature prominently in the uni and I'm excited about making this fresh start. Like I said the new uni will be very much like my MLB one, right down to the newspaper-like presentation of it. I'm not planning to go to all the trouble of posting schedules and results for every single fight card because I'll be focusing mainly on the big stars and all the community created fictional fighters will be numbered amongst those, which is something to really look forward to.

[Ian Lord]

The HBF was one of the uni's that I always read, and it was also one of the first. I always found it really enjoyable [great write-ups}, and I'll miss it. But I also understand you wanting to start afresh. I eagerly anticipate it.

As for the new uni, I will probably create a new fighter, if that's alright by you. Looking forward to it and if it's half as good as the HBF/IBL, then we're in for a treat.

[Romdawg88]

Originally Posted by kenyan_cheena

We'll see what happens, I guess. I might have to post a sign-up thread in General Discussions to draw more attention to it. I'm a little surprised only you and Claybor have responded so far. But I'm not in any rush to get it started.

I've started plotting out some back stories for fighters who will feature prominently in the uni and I'm excited about making this fresh start. Like I said the new uni will be very much like my MLB one, right down to the newspaper-like presentation of it. I'm not planning to go to all the trouble of posting schedules and results for every single fight card because I'll be focusing mainly on the big stars and all the community created fictional fighters will be numbered amongst those, which is something to really look forward to.

Well, it's only been a couple of days since you made the post it will probably take some time before more people start replying. Plus, Mike is still out for the time being, SAL is probably busy with the UTBA draft, Chris has had GLB stuff going on not mention real life stuff. Best bet would be to make that general discussion post and maybe send PMs to some of the guys who posted in this thread alot just case they missed it for some reason.

Cool, that sounds like good stuff. The new format should help you move things along real nicely. You've gone through what two full seasons and a bit of a third in the baseball dynasty in the time it took you to get through a couple of weeks in the HBF/IBL. This should be far more to your liking.