Day Council Universe

[djday45]

1880 DAY COUNCIL ANNOUNCES HEAVYWEIGHT BOXING WORLDWIDE COMES UNDER ITS JURISTICTION
The Year old New Boxing body The Day Council Formed from top boxing authorities from All over America, Canada, Great Britain, Australia and South Africa have announced they have officially taken over Heavyweight professional boxing worldwide.

It is the Council’s aim to take over matchmaking to ensure good competitive match ups between fighters. Also to introduce credible and respected world rankings which will lead to an official tournament to crown the first ever universally accepted heavy weight champion under the new gloved rules.

It is intended to add other divisions such as the Middleweights and the Lightweights once activity increases in these divisions.

To help with this matchmaking all current heavyweights officially affiliated with the Day Council will be placed into groups of ability to help ensure good matchmaking.

The Groups are as follows

SUPERSTAR
None

CHAMPIONSHIP
None

CONTENDER
Larry Foley, Jem Mace, Charley Mitchell,

MINOR CONTENDER
Joe Goss, John J Dwyer, Jimmy Elliot, John Donaldson, Jack Burns, Patsy Cardiff

GATEKKEEPER
John C Heehan, Charles Hadley, Jim Dunn, John Flood,

TRIAL HORSE
Mike McCoole, Tom Allen, Steve Taylor, Duncan McDonald, Jake Knifton, Bill Farnam, Dick Egan

JOURNEYMAN
Dan Dwyer, Johnny Woods, Mike Sheehan, Frank Herald, Tompkin Gilbert, Fred Crossley, Mike Conley

CLUB FIGHTER
Jack Stewert, Jem Stewert, PJ Rentzler, Enos Phillips, Charlie O’Donnell, Martin Neiry, Charlie McDonald, John McDermont, Dan McCarty, Al Marks, John Laflin, Mike Kine, Henry Higgins, Joe Hess, Dan Henry, Morris Heffey

TOP PROSPECT
John L Sullivan, Jake Kilrain

BEGINNER
William Miller, Tom Lees, Paddy Ryan, Tug Wilson, Jim Miles, Morris Grant, James Dalton, JH Brown, SP Stockton, Fred Robinson, James McCoy, Charles Lang,


Records will be kept for all bouts starting from January 1st 1880. All previous bouts shall be disregarded.

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Dean

[djday45]

JANUARY 1880 SCHEDULE

LONDON ENGLAND
Charley Mitchell Larry Foley
Joe Goss Jimmy Elliot
Jake Knifton Tom Allen
Tompkin Gilbert Mike Conley
Jem Stewert Enos Phillips
Henry Higgins Joe Hess

SYDNEY AUSTRALIA
Bill Farnam Mike McCoole
Tom Lees Tug Wilson
William Miller James McCoy
Morris Heffey Dan Henry
Pj Rentzler Martin Neiry
John McDermont Charlie McDonald

MONTREAL CANADA
John J Dwyer Patsy Cardiff
Dan Dwyer Johnny Woods
SP Stockton Fred Robinson
Mike Kine Jack Stewert
Dan McCarty Charlie O'Donnell
John Laflin Al Marks

CHICAGO USA
Jack Burns John Donaldson
Charles Hadley John C Heehan
Dick Egan Steve Taylor
Mike Sheehan Frank Herald
John L Sullivan PJ Rentzler
Jake Kilrain Joe Hess

MINOR BOUTS
James Dalton Charles Lang
Paddy Ryan Morris Grant
Jim Miles JH Brown

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Dean

[mh2365]

sounds good ...
could you post the files for the following as I seem to not have them

al marks, john laflin, dan henry, enos phillips

[djday45]

Originally Posted by mh2365

sounds good ...
could you post the files for the following as I seem to not have them

al marks, john laflin, dan henry, enos phillips

There you go

Pls note you will have to reset teh records on half of them and look at the career stage and groups.

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Dean

[swampdragon]

George Godfrey?

[djday45]

Originally Posted by swampdragon

George Godfrey?

Enters 1883 lol.

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Dean

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by djday45

There you go

Pls note you will have to reset teh records on half of them and look at the career stage and groups.

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Dean

Thanks Dean

[bear]

There were two George Godfrey's of note in Boxing. George Godfrey of the late 19th century was known as Old Chocolate. Both he and Peter Jackson were talented conteders and they were ducked as opponents in title fights in the US because of the color bar drawn by Sullivan. Godfrey was a step below Jackson in ability. George Godfrey, the Leiperville Shadow fought in the 20s and 30s retiring around 1938 or 1936.

Bear

Originally Posted by swampdragon

George Godfrey?

[mh2365]

here's a quick searched picture of the Leiperville Shadow ....

I put a HW after his name in the database to distinguish him from Old Chocolate, even though they were both HW's

[djday45]

JANUARY SCHEDULE

LONDON ENGLAND
Charley Mitchell W10 Larry Foley (close fight Mitchell busier)
Joe Goss W10 Jimmy Elliot (Goss superior)
Jake Knifton KO5 Tom Allen (Allen dropped 5 times in a bad beating)
Mike Conley W10 Tompkin Gilbert
Jem Stewert W10 Enos Phillips
Joe Hess KO6 Henry Higgins

SYDNEY AUSTRALIA
Bill Farnam KO4 Mike McCoole (Farnam looked aggressive in stopping a shop worn McCoole)
Tom Lees W6 Tug Wilson (Lees dominates knocking down Wilson twice)
William Miller W6 James McCoy (Miller superior but unimpressive)
Morris Heffey W10 Dan Henry
Martin Neiry W10 PJ Rentzler
Charlie McDonald KO5 John McDermont

MONTREAL CANADA
John J Dwyer W10 Patsy Cardiff (Cardiff robbed in very close brawl Cardiff down twice Dwyer once)
Johnny Woods W10 Dan Dwyer
SP Stockton D6 Fred Robinson
Jack Stewert W10 Mike Kline
Charllie O'Donnell W10 Dan McCarty
John Laflin TKO5 Cuts Al Marks

CHICAGO USA
Jack Burns W10 John Donaldson (Burns wins 7-3 and outworks and outhustles the smooth Donaldson)
John C Heehan KO3 Charles Hadley (wild brawl With Heenhan getting off canvas to win)
Dick Egan TKO9 Cuts Steve Taylor
Frank Herald W10 Mike Sheehan
John L Sullivan W6 PJ Rentzler (Rentzler gives Sullivan more trouble than anticipated)
Jake Kilrain W6 Joe Hess (complete shut out but Kilrain unable to finish.)

MINOR BOUTS
James Dalton W6 Charles Lang
Paddy Ryan W6 Morris Grant
Jim Miles TKO6 Injury JH Brown


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Dean

[djday45]

Right we have moved into August now and the current Heavyweight rankings look like this.

1. Charley Mitchell 5-1-0
2. Jack Burns 4-1-1 (3)
3. John L Sullivan 6-0-1 (4)
4. John Laflin 7-0-3 (3)
5. Mike Conley 6-0-0 (5)
6. Jake Kilrain 7-0-0 (2)
7. Frank Herald 5-0-0 (2)
8. John J Dwyer 5-2-0 (2)
9. John Donaldson 3-1-0
10. Larry Foley 3-2-0 (2)
11. Jake Knifton 4-1-0 (4)
12. John Flood 4-2-0 (4)
13. Dick Egan 4-1-1 (3)
14. Patsy Cardiff 2-2-0
15. William Miller 3-1-3 (1)
16. Bill Farnam 5-2-0 (4)
17. Charles Hadley 2-3-2
18. Jem Mace 0-2-2
19. Duncan McDonald 2-2-1
20. Martin Neiry 9-4-0 (2)

The top sixteen contenders at the end of December will qualify for next years tournament to crown the initial heavyweight king.
Mitchell way out in front at the moment after conquering such illustrious opposition as Foley (twice), Dwyer, Mace and Heehan.

Every 6 Months the fighters will change groups depending on their current rankings. As this is the first time this is done fighters will only get promoted into higher groups. Next time fighters will also fall back into their original groups if they do badly in the higher quality of opposition.

Fighters Changing are -

Championship
Mitchell, Burns

Contender
Laflin, Conley, Herald, Dwyer, Donaldson

Minor Contender
Knifton, Flood, Egan, Farnam, Hadley, Mcdonald, Neiry

Gatekeeper
Woods, Richardson, Henry, Heffey

Trial Horse
Marks, Sheehan, Gilbert, Crossley, Rentzler, Stewert

Journeyman
C McDonald, Higgins, McDermont, J Stewert, McCarty


Beginners and Top Prospects will only be moved after they have had 30 fights.

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Dean

[djday45]

Neiry is an intresting guy in my universe so far having been very active.
He Started as a club fighter but has just been promoted to the lofty hights of the Minor Contender group.

Here is his record so far.

1880
PJ Rentzler W10
Johnny Woods KOby8
John L Sullivan L6
Jim Miles W10
Jim Miles W10
Enos Phillips TKO7
Dick Egan W10
Joe Hess W10
Frank Herald KOby7
John McDermont W10
JH Brown W10
Henry Higgins L10
Charles Lang KO2

9-4-0 (2)

Quality of opposition has been pretty poor so I expect him to drop back down into the club ranks by the end of the year.


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Dean

[djday45]

Rankings end of December 1880 please bote the top sixteen qualify for next years Heavyweight Chmapionship Tournament.

1. Charley Mitchell 8-2-0 (1)
2. John L Sullivan 11-0-1 (8)
3. Mike Conley 9-0-0 (7)
4. Jack Burns 7-2-1 (5)
5. John Flood 7-2-0 (7)
6. Larry Foley 6-2-1 (3)
7. Frank Herald 6-0-1 (2)
8. Jake Kilrain 11-1-0 (3)
9. Dick Egan 5-1-1 (3)
10. William Miller 7-1-3 (2)
11. John Donaldson 6-3-0
12 Bill Farnam 7-4-0 (4)
13. Jake Knifton 6-3-0 (4)
14. Charles Hadley 3-4-2 (1)
15. Morris Heffey 5-4-4 (2)
16. Jim Dunn 1-2-0
17. Jim Miles 7-2-2 (2)
18. PJ Rentzler 10-6-0 (1)
19. Joe Goss 2-4-1
20. Dan Henry 7-5-3 (2)

John J Dwyer had a spectacular fall from grace with 5 straight losses in the 2nd half of the year to Woods, Hadley, Conley, Flood and Burns.

Retirements
The Following Fighters Decided to Hang up the Gloves
Jimmy Elliot, John J Dwyer, Mike McCoole.
Joe Goss Nearly retired then changed his mind.

New Fighters 1881
Dominic McCaffrey (Top Prospect)
Herbert A Slade (Begineer)

Fighter Of The Year - Charlie Mitchell
Fight of the Year - Michell W12 Burns
Round of the Year - R1 Conley - J J Dwyer
Prospect of the Year - John L Sullivan
Comeback of the Year - Larry Foley

Start Of Year Title Fights

Commonwealth
Charlie Mitchell VS. Larry Foley

North American
John L Sullivan VS Mike Conley

American
Jack Burns VS John Flood

European
Jake Knifton VS Joe Goss

Asian
William Miller VS Bill Farnam

British
Jem Mace VS Jem Stewert

Australian
Morris Heffey VS Tom Lees

Canadian
Mike Kine VS SP Stockton

South African
PJ Rentzler VS James McCoy

All above bouts 12 Rounds

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Dean

[swampdragon]

How did Conley get to be 9-0? It's always interesting when these lesser guys roll off a string of wins.

[mh2365]

Yeah Dean explain !!! ... I have Conley rated a 1, did you re-rate him? If so please share!!!!

[Gunsmoke]

I seeing Sullivan getting upset at some point in the title tourney by a fighter like Foley or Kilrain. Good stuff Dean

[djday45]

Originally Posted by mh2365

Yeah Dean explain !!! ... I have Conley rated a 1, did you re-rate him? If so please share!!!!

Yep, I have him as a 3 a very powerful but brutish fighter.

His quality of opposition has not been amazing but he holds wins over Dwyer, Taylor and Allen.

[djday45]

Originally Posted by Gunsmoke

I seeing Sullivan getting upset at some point in the title tourney by a fighter like Foley or Kilrain. Good stuff Dean

Mmm, Maybe you could be right, Mitchell is having an amazing run but always seems made for John L when they clash. Foley would be a danger as Sullivan always struggles agianst smart boxers if he does not overwhelm them.

Also Sullivan is still at the Beginning carrer stage until he has completed 15 bouts so this will have an impact.

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Dean

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by djday45

Yep, I have him as a 3 a very powerful but brutish fighter.

His quality of opposition has not been amazing but he holds wins over Dwyer, Taylor and Allen.

You might check that ... when I imported your file he was a 2, but a much different fighter than the one I had. His power will give him a shot in fights, 9-0 though? I doubt it. He was only 0-1 in my universe, so the change in ratings comes at the right time.

Usually a ratings change will come when the guy is like 4-11, I chalk it up to better training

[djday45]

Results for 1881 Regional Championships

Commonwealth
Charlie Mitchell W12 Larry Foley
Mitchell very dominant

North American
John L Sullivan KO6 Mike Conley
Very tight with the young Sullivan just tiring when he found the winning punch.

American
Jack Burns W12 John Flood
Flood robbed as he deserved the decision in a great, great slugfest.

European
Jake Knifton KO10 Joe Goss
Goss unable to cope at his age with the powerful Knifton.

Asian
Bill Farnam W12 William Miller

British
Jem Mace W12 Jem Stewert
Mace still a cut above the likes of Stewert.

Australian
Tom Lees KO4 Morris Heffey

Canadian
Mike Kine W12 SP Stockton

South African
PJ Rentzler W12 James McCoy

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Dean