Lba Retired Thread - Page 5

mh2365 · 03-08-2007, 05:53 AM

Billy Edwards retires at 24-23-5 with 282pp Edwards was another orginal fighter who started off losing his first 3 and dropping to club in 12/02 at 3-9. He finally made it back to main in 08/10 with a record of 21-21-4. He had a few good wins but never a big one. He never fought for a title. He was knocked down more (9/12) but had more stoppages (5/3). Cuts were even at 15 and he was more accurate (36%/27%). He is not eligible to comeback.

Mike Daly retires at 21-22-2 with 109pp Daly was another original who dropped to club in 04/02 at 1-6-1. He went back to main in 02/06 at 11-11-2 and promptly lost his next 5 fights to drop back to club in 11/07 at 11-16-2. He never made it back up despite winning 6 of his final 7 fights. He never fought for a title. He was knocked down a lot more (24/44) but had more stoppages (17/10). He was cut a lot more also (11/23) and was far less accurate (25%/44%). He is not eligible to comeback.

mh2365 · 03-09-2007, 07:16 AM

Thomas Palmer retires at 21-23-3 with 66pp Palmer was an original member of the LBA but he got off to a rough start going 2-7 to drop to club 01/02. He evened his record out at 16-16-2 in 10/08 to move back to main where he managed to stay until he retired. He never fought for a title, he did have a UD10 over Solly Smith though back in 09/02. He was knocked down more (13/19), stopped more (4/6), cut more (12/17) but was more accurate (36%/29%). He is not eligible for comeback.

mh2365 · 03-22-2007, 06:02 AM

Tug Wilson retires at 18-23-1 with 24pp Wilson goes out on a winning note defeating Nils Tieleman in his final bout. He only had a 5-5 record in his last 10 bouts. Wilson dropped to club on 1/03 and never made it back up. He finished strong winning 5 of his last 6 all against TC's though.
He had less knockdowns (12-35), less stoppages (3-12) but cut his opponent more (17-15) and was more accurate (42%-38%).

mh2365 · 04-18-2007, 08:56 PM

Joe Goddard retires at 20-20-1 with 47pp Despite winning his last 4 bouts Goddard decides to hang them up. Goddard was one of the originals. Goddard dropped to club with an 8-13 record in November of 1906. He made it back November of 1909 with a 15-15-1 record. His two biggest wins were over George Godfrey and Bob Armstrong.

He had 37 knockdowns and was down 38 times. 11 stoppages and was stopped 11 times. Landed 42% compared to 39%.

mh2365 · 05-14-2007, 06:38 AM

Dan Hickey retires at 9-39-1 with -746 PP Hickey was one of the orginals. Hickey dropped to club in 11/02 with a record of 3-8. It never really got better from there. He lost his last 9 fights.

He was only stopped 4 times but his opponents landed 50% of their punches. He was only dropped 25 times but only scored 13 knockdowns. 5 of his 9 wins were by KO.

mh2365 · 12-02-2007, 08:42 AM

Matty Matthews retires at 22-25-2 with -119PP

Matthews was one of the originals. He dropped to club in 12/01 with a record of 2-7. He came within a win of getting back to the main division several times but never was able to pull it off. His longest winning streak was 4 fights. He was knocked down 32 times and stopped 14 times. He only scored 8 knockdowns and 3 stoppages.

He was not a good 6 rated fighter. He retired after two straight wins over TC's.

mh2365 · 04-06-2008, 01:00 PM

Fighter: Tompkin Gilbert
Division: Heavyweight
Record: 13(1) - 30(6) - 5

Notes: Gilbert was never a player in the main division dropping to club in 10/02 and never making it back. Won 4 fights in a row in 1908/9 but that was his best effort. Gilbert only scored 4 knockdowns in his career but was fairly sturdy going down 25 times in 48 bouts and only being stopped 6 times.

Brooks TVB · 04-06-2008, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

Fighter: Tompkin Gilbert
Division: Heavyweight
Record: 13(1) - 30(6) - 5

Notes: Gilbert was never a player in the main division dropping to club in 10/02 and never making it back. Won 4 fights in a row in 1908/9 but that was his best effort. Gilbert only scored 4 knockdowns in his career but was fairly sturdy going down 25 times in 48 bouts and only being stopped 6 times.

Just one knockout? Atleast he had a good chin.

mh2365 · 05-10-2008, 06:58 PM

Fighter: Mike Brennan
Division: Heavyweight
Record: 22(17) - 23(15)
Retired: Forced, no comeback

Notes: It was kill or be killed for Brennan with 32 of his 45 fights not making the distance. Brennan had some big wins (Dominic McCaffrey KO7 and Joe Goss UD10) but was very inconsistent. He dropped to club in 1/08 but thanks to 7 straight wins got back to main in 03/12. Never fought for a title

mh2365 · 05-10-2008, 07:04 PM

Fighter: Frank Childs
Division: Heavyweight
Record: 27(16) - 18(4) - 6
Retired: Forced, no comeback

Notes: Childs was one of those fighters who never quite made it. He had some decent wins but pretty much lost everytime he stepped up. No title fights

mh2365 · 05-10-2008, 07:10 PM

Fighter: Tom Lees
Division: Heavyweight
Record: 32(19) - 18(11) - 1
Retired: Forced, possible comeback 50/25 (means 50% chance first year, 25% second year)

Notes: Lees had a nice career despite being a bit chinny. He would consistently beat guys who were equal or worse than him, but would lose when he stepped up. He won 9 in row before losing his last fight. No title fights

mh2365 · 05-10-2008, 07:15 PM

Fighter: Johnny Woods
Division: Heavyweight
Record: 21(7) - 23(14) - 3
Retired: Forced, no comebacks

Notes: Woods was chinny with no defense. His opponents landed 44% of their punches against him. He bounced back and forth from club to main. He dropped to club twice over his career but managed to finish in the show. No title fights.

mh2365 · 05-10-2008, 07:22 PM

Fighter: Morris Grant
Division: Heavyweight (club)
Record: 19(3) - 24(10) - 5
Retired: Forced, no comeback

Notes: Dropped to club in 2/09 and never made it back. Grant was a pretty consistent journeyman. Never lost more than five in a row, never won more than four. Never fought for a title.

mh2365 · 05-10-2008, 07:28 PM

Fighter: Jack Stelzner
Division: Heavyweight (club)
Record: 24(8) - 26(2) - 6
Retired: Forced, no comeback

Notes: Solid chin and a good test for youngsters. He dropped to club 01/03 and never made it back. Was only down 17 times. Never fought for a title.

mh2365 · 05-12-2008, 06:44 PM

Fighter: Jack Dempsey NP
Division: Middleweight and Light Heavyweight
Record: 46(31) - 7(7) - 0 (16-3 after comeback)
Retired: forced, second retirement, no comeback

Notes: First HOF candidate to retire for good. Dempsey won the MW title twice before moving up and winning the LHW title. Dempsey was the first (and only so far) to defeat Jack Dillon. Only had one bad loss (to Fred Russell) but the rest of his loses came to probably future HOF'ers (Fitzsimmons x 2, Ketchel, Ryan, Papke and Klaus). He finished 5-5 in title fights.

HOF Eligible - 1914

mh2365 · 05-12-2008, 06:45 PM

Fighter: Jack Dempsey NP
Division: Middleweight and Light Heavyweight
Record: 46(31) - 7(7) - 0 (16-3 after comeback)
Retired: forced, second retirement, no comeback

Notes: First HOF candidate to retire for good. Dempsey won the MW title twice before moving up and winning the LHW title. Dempsey was the first (and only so far) to defeat Jack Dillon. Only had one bad loss (to Fred Russell) but the rest of his loses came to probably future HOF'ers (Fitzsimmons x 2, Ketchel, Ryan, Papke and Klaus). He finished 5-5 in title fights.

HOF Eligible - 1914 (stats will be available for his HOF poll)

Brooks TVB · 05-12-2008, 06:51 PM

I'll miss seeing Dempsey in the LBA. He has my vote for the Hall.

mh2365 · 05-12-2008, 06:53 PM

Yeah his fights were always action packed.

Romdawg88 · 05-12-2008, 07:08 PM

Dammit, the man is finally putting together a solid reign and he retires. This sucks as Dempsey was always my favorite guy in the LBA. Oh well, at least he went out on top.

mh2365 · 05-12-2008, 07:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Romdawg88

Dammit, the man is finally putting together a solid reign and he retires. This sucks as Dempsey was always my favorite guy in the LBA. Oh well, at least he went out on top.

I even cheated and rolled twice ... both times he was the only one of the 7 up for retirement that retired ... guess it was meant to be. Almost cheated and ignored it though

03-08-2007, 05:53 AM	#81 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	LW retirements end of 1911 Billy Edwards retires at 24-23-5 with 282pp Edwards was another orginal fighter who started off losing his first 3 and dropping to club in 12/02 at 3-9. He finally made it back to main in 08/10 with a record of 21-21-4. He had a few good wins but never a big one. He never fought for a title. He was knocked down more (9/12) but had more stoppages (5/3). Cuts were even at 15 and he was more accurate (36%/27%). He is not eligible to comeback. Mike Daly retires at 21-22-2 with 109pp Daly was another original who dropped to club in 04/02 at 1-6-1. He went back to main in 02/06 at 11-11-2 and promptly lost his next 5 fights to drop back to club in 11/07 at 11-16-2. He never made it back up despite winning 6 of his final 7 fights. He never fought for a title. He was knocked down a lot more (24/44) but had more stoppages (17/10). He was cut a lot more also (11/23) and was far less accurate (25%/44%). He is not eligible to comeback. __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters Last edited by mh2365 : 03-08-2007 at 06:01 AM.

03-09-2007, 07:16 AM	#82 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	BW retirements Thomas Palmer retires at 21-23-3 with 66pp Palmer was an original member of the LBA but he got off to a rough start going 2-7 to drop to club 01/02. He evened his record out at 16-16-2 in 10/08 to move back to main where he managed to stay until he retired. He never fought for a title, he did have a UD10 over Solly Smith though back in 09/02. He was knocked down more (13/19), stopped more (4/6), cut more (12/17) but was more accurate (36%/29%). He is not eligible for comeback. __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

03-22-2007, 06:02 AM	#83 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	Tug Wilson retires at 18-23-1 with 24pp Wilson goes out on a winning note defeating Nils Tieleman in his final bout. He only had a 5-5 record in his last 10 bouts. Wilson dropped to club on 1/03 and never made it back up. He finished strong winning 5 of his last 6 all against TC's though. He had less knockdowns (12-35), less stoppages (3-12) but cut his opponent more (17-15) and was more accurate (42%-38%). __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

04-18-2007, 08:56 PM	#84 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	Joe Goddard retires at 20-20-1 with 47pp Despite winning his last 4 bouts Goddard decides to hang them up. Goddard was one of the originals. Goddard dropped to club with an 8-13 record in November of 1906. He made it back November of 1909 with a 15-15-1 record. His two biggest wins were over George Godfrey and Bob Armstrong. He had 37 knockdowns and was down 38 times. 11 stoppages and was stopped 11 times. Landed 42% compared to 39%. __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

05-14-2007, 06:38 AM	#85 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	Dan Hickey retires at 9-39-1 with -746 PP Hickey was one of the orginals. Hickey dropped to club in 11/02 with a record of 3-8. It never really got better from there. He lost his last 9 fights. He was only stopped 4 times but his opponents landed 50% of their punches. He was only dropped 25 times but only scored 13 knockdowns. 5 of his 9 wins were by KO. __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

12-02-2007, 08:42 AM	#86 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	*Matty Matthews retires at 22-25-2 with -119PP* Matthews was one of the originals. He dropped to club in 12/01 with a record of 2-7. He came within a win of getting back to the main division several times but never was able to pull it off. His longest winning streak was 4 fights. He was knocked down 32 times and stopped 14 times. He only scored 8 knockdowns and 3 stoppages. He was not a good 6 rated fighter. He retired after two straight wins over TC's. __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

04-06-2008, 01:00 PM	#87 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	stealing Brooks' format Fighter: Tompkin Gilbert Division: Heavyweight Record: 13(1) - 30(6) - 5 Notes: Gilbert was never a player in the main division dropping to club in 10/02 and never making it back. Won 4 fights in a row in 1908/9 but that was his best effort. Gilbert only scored 4 knockdowns in his career but was fairly sturdy going down 25 times in 48 bouts and only being stopped 6 times. __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

05-10-2008, 06:58 PM	#89 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	Fighter: Mike Brennan Division: Heavyweight Record: 22(17) - 23(15) Retired: Forced, no comeback Notes: It was kill or be killed for Brennan with 32 of his 45 fights not making the distance. Brennan had some big wins (Dominic McCaffrey KO7 and Joe Goss UD10) but was very inconsistent. He dropped to club in 1/08 but thanks to 7 straight wins got back to main in 03/12. Never fought for a title __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters Last edited by mh2365 : 05-10-2008 at 07:00 PM.

05-10-2008, 07:04 PM	#90 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	Fighter: Frank Childs Division: Heavyweight Record: 27(16) - 18(4) - 6 Retired: Forced, no comeback Notes: Childs was one of those fighters who never quite made it. He had some decent wins but pretty much lost everytime he stepped up. No title fights __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

05-10-2008, 07:10 PM	#91 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	Fighter: Tom Lees Division: Heavyweight Record: 32(19) - 18(11) - 1 Retired: Forced, possible comeback 50/25 (means 50% chance first year, 25% second year) Notes: Lees had a nice career despite being a bit chinny. He would consistently beat guys who were equal or worse than him, but would lose when he stepped up. He won 9 in row before losing his last fight. No title fights __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

05-10-2008, 07:15 PM	#92 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	Fighter: Johnny Woods Division: Heavyweight Record: 21(7) - 23(14) - 3 Retired: Forced, no comebacks Notes: Woods was chinny with no defense. His opponents landed 44% of their punches against him. He bounced back and forth from club to main. He dropped to club twice over his career but managed to finish in the show. No title fights. __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

05-10-2008, 07:22 PM	#93 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	Fighter: Morris Grant Division: Heavyweight (club) Record: 19(3) - 24(10) - 5 Retired: Forced, no comeback Notes: Dropped to club in 2/09 and never made it back. Grant was a pretty consistent journeyman. Never lost more than five in a row, never won more than four. Never fought for a title. __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

05-10-2008, 07:28 PM	#94 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	Fighter: Jack Stelzner Division: Heavyweight (club) Record: 24(8) - 26(2) - 6 Retired: Forced, no comeback Notes: Solid chin and a good test for youngsters. He dropped to club 01/03 and never made it back. Was only down 17 times. Never fought for a title. __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

05-12-2008, 06:44 PM	#95 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	A fan favorite hangs them up for good Fighter: Jack Dempsey NP Division: Middleweight and Light Heavyweight Record: 46(31) - 7(7) - 0 (16-3 after comeback) Retired: forced, second retirement, no comeback Notes: First HOF candidate to retire for good. Dempsey won the MW title twice before moving up and winning the LHW title. Dempsey was the first (and only so far) to defeat Jack Dillon. Only had one bad loss (to Fred Russell) but the rest of his loses came to probably future HOF'ers (Fitzsimmons x 2, Ketchel, Ryan, Papke and Klaus). He finished 5-5 in title fights. HOF Eligible - 1914 __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

05-12-2008, 06:45 PM	#96 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	A fan favorite hangs them up for good Fighter: Jack Dempsey NP Division: Middleweight and Light Heavyweight Record: 46(31) - 7(7) - 0 (16-3 after comeback) Retired: forced, second retirement, no comeback Notes: First HOF candidate to retire for good. Dempsey won the MW title twice before moving up and winning the LHW title. Dempsey was the first (and only so far) to defeat Jack Dillon. Only had one bad loss (to Fred Russell) but the rest of his loses came to probably future HOF'ers (Fitzsimmons x 2, Ketchel, Ryan, Papke and Klaus). He finished 5-5 in title fights. HOF Eligible - 1914 (stats will be available for his HOF poll) __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

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05-12-2008, 06:51 PM	#97 (permalink)
Brooks TVB All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Loudon, TN. Posts: 1,244	I'll miss seeing Dempsey in the LBA. He has my vote for the Hall. __________________ http://www.myspace.com/abrooks79

05-12-2008, 06:53 PM	#98 (permalink)
mh2365 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,086 Warnings: 1	Yeah his fights were always action packed. __________________ LBA UNIVERSE 01/08 TBCB P4P Management Image Recruiters

05-12-2008, 07:08 PM	#99 (permalink)
Romdawg88 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 3,503	Dammit, the man is finally putting together a solid reign and he retires. This sucks as Dempsey was always my favorite guy in the LBA. Oh well, at least he went out on top. __________________ Romy "Iceman" Alvarez First TBCB Forum Tournament Champion, 10-6 (5). HBF: 2-0 (1)