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Old 01-25-2009, 12:11 PM   #601 (permalink)
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Golden Gloves 1893 - Madison Square Garden

Lightweight Semi Final's

Jimmy Reilly (17-3-4)(6) UD4 Battling Nelson (23-1-0)(6)

A bad time for Nelson to lose his perfect record.

Reilly pulled off an upset win thanks to right hand combination that dropped Nelson in the second stanza.


Jack Goldswain (19-1-3)(5) MD4 Kid McPartland (19-2-3)(1)

Big efforts in the last two rounds saw Goldswain secure a majority draw.

Judge McDougall was the official able to split the pair, he surprisingly gave it 40-36 to Goldswain, enabling the Englishman to advance to a final bout against Jimmy Reilly.
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The following boxer's handed in their license's at the end of 1893.

Bill Baxter (BW) (13-10-1)(0)
Sam Blakelock (LW) (16-4-1)(2)
Mike Daly (LW)(16-13-1)(11)
Reddy Gallagher (MW)(17-8-0)(12)
Jack Hopper (LW)(14-10-0)(12)
Tommy Warren (FW) (9-11-1)(6)
All of Shoreditch is pining the retirement of Bill Baxter
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All of Shoreditch is pining the retirement of Bill Baxter
As 'commissioner' of the WBF it's probably best that I don't go out at night in Shoreditch!
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Golden Gloves 1893 - Madison Square Garden

Middleweight Semi Final's

Charles Goff (13-6-5)(3) D4 Jewey Cook (13-7-4)(0)

Goff edges past Cook in a substandard affair.

Goff and Cook were equal on punches landed but the American moves into the final courtesy of punches thrown.

Tom Thomas (12-7-5)(2) KO4 Australian Billy Edwards (8-11-5)(0)

With 15 seconds left in the fight, Thomas was on his way back to Wales.

From nowhere he exploded a thunderous right cross on the chin of Edwards and all the Australian's previous hardwork had come to nothing.
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Golden Gloves 1893 - Madison Square Garden

Featherweight Semi Finals

Dave Sullivan (17-4-3)(1) UD4 Jimmy Lawler (11-6-7)(2)

Smooth win for Sullivan.

Young Corbett II (20-3-1)(3) UD4 Mike Sears (13-5-6)(0)

Corbett fought hard inside and easily had the measure of Sears.

The final between Corbett and Sullivan will be the classic 'boxer V slugger' confrontation.
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Golden Gloves 1893 - Madison Square Garden

Welterweight Semi Final's

George Cole (19-1-3)(4) D4 Eddie Connolly (13-4-4)(4)

After a blistering display of boxing in the second round, Cole took his foot off the pedal and nearly paid the price. The Canadian came back strongly and forced a draw on the cards. Cole gained his final place on superior punches landed totals.

Young Peter Jackson (21-0-3)(8) MD4 Billy Gardner (14-6-2)(5)

Jackson moves into a fascinating final against Cole.

Some at ringside ar eof the opinion that Jackson ids the best young talent on show across the weights.
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Golden Gloves 1893 - Madison Square Garden

Heavyweight Semi Final's

Jimmy Elliot (18-3-3)(9) TKO2 Black Bill (12-12-0)(6)

Black Bill, the conqueror of Jack Johnson, had no answer to the power and hand speed of Elliot. Bill was out on his feet in the second round when the referee stepped in.

Harry Laing (18-4-2)(8) D4 Theo Van Buskirk (19-0-5)(7)

No holding back here!

Van Buskirk started strongly, dominating the first stanza.

Laing made all the running in the next two rounds. He came within a whisker of stopping Van Buskirk in the third round after landing a fusilage of hooks and uppercuts.

The American came back strongly in the fourth round and forced a draw on the scorcards.

Laing will face Elliot in the Heavyweight final courtesy of a superior amount of punches landed.
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The Finals

Here is how they will line up for the Golden Gloves finals.

Bantamweight - Terry McGovern (USA) V Harry Harris (USA)
Featherweight - Dave Sullivan (IRE) V Young Corbett II (USA)
Lightweight - Jimmy Reilly (USA) V Jack Goldswain (ENG)
Welterweight - George Cole (USA) V Young Peter Jackson (USA)
Middleweight - Charles Goff (USA) V Tom Thomas (WAL)
Heavyweight - Jimmy Elliot (IRE) V Harry Laing (NZ)
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I know I sent you copies of the table of merit that appeared in

Jack Scroggins (Paperback)
by R.A. Hartley (Author), Richard Humphreys (Author)
Paperback: 140 pages
Publisher: Nimrod Press Ltd (December 1989)
ISBN-10: 1852592206
ISBN-13: 978-1852592202
Amazon is selling a used copy for $148.28

Also in this volume is an appendix by Humphreys that is a chronicle of fights that occured with descriptions. It is a good supplement to Fistiana's chronicle. Humphreys has some interesting commenmtary on some of the bouts. If a mill was 2nd rate he is very explicit. Have I sent you a copy of this already? I don't remember.

I do not think that I have seen that yet Bear. In fact, I am certain of it.

I am finding the book on Maher quite enjoyable, there is a wealth of information even though it sorely needed a good editor's touch before going to print.
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Wow, Johnson sure took an early bow. I suppose that we'll hear from that fellow again though.
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Wow, Johnson sure took an early bow. I suppose that we'll hear from that fellow again though.
Maybe

He's actually already started in the pro WBF, but I've got another three years of catching up left at the lower weights.
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December 1893 - Madison Square Garden

Golden Gloves Bantamweight Title

McGovern by a whisker!

Terry McGovern (21-1-2)(11) MD4 Harry Harris (18-4-3)(4)

McGovern (below) became the inaugural Golden Gloves Bantamweight Champion courtesy of a Majority draw. Two of the judges were unable to split the pair, whilst Lord Lonsdale gave it to McGovern by a point.

Harris had started the better of the pair, boxing well behind his lead left. McGovern piled on the pressure in the last two rounds, landing heavy hooks to the body and generally out working his opponent.
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December 1893 - Madison Square Garden

Golden Gloves Featherweight Title

Dave Sullivan (17-4-4)(1) MD4 Young Corbett II (20-3-2)(3)

Sullivan (below) avenged to previous defeats at the hands of Corbett by securing a majority draw and the Golden Gloves trophy.

In a poor affair Sullivan dominated the second round only to take his foot of the pedal and let Corbett back into the fight.
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December 1893 - Madison Square Garden

Golden Gloves Lightweight Title

Jack Goldswain (20-1-3)(5) UD4 Jimmy Reilly (17-5-3)(6)

Goldswain (below) outclassed his opponent and took the inaugural Golden Gloves Lightweight Trophy back to England.

Reilly staged a brave rally in the last stanza but left himself too much to do after a first round knockdown, Reilly barely beat the count after shipping a nasty right uppercut.
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December 1893 - Madison Square Garden

Golden Gloves Welterweight Title

George Cole (20-1-3)(4) SD4 Young Peter Jackson (21-1-3)(8)

Cole (below) was the derserved winner of the Welterweight Trophy.

He outboxed his talented opponent, none more so than in the third round when he landed a number of good right hands.

Jackson not only lost the chance for the title but also his unbeaten record.
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December 1893 - Madison Square Garden

Golden Gloves Middleweight Title

Charles Goff (14-6-5)(3) UD4 Tom Thomas (12-8-5)(2)

At the end of the second round things were going to plan for the visiting Welshman, he had dominated the first two rounds, finding Goff (below) to be an easy target.

It was all change in the third stanza. Goff went on the offensive and landed a sickening right hook to the ribcage of Thomas, forcing him to take a knee.

Goff boxed well in the last round, edged the point and won the trophy.
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December 1893 - Madison Square Garden

Golden Gloves Heavyweight Final

Jimmy Elliot (19-3-3)(10) KO3 Harry Laing (18-5-2)(8)

A wild right hook halfway through the third round ended the inaugural Golden Gloves Tournament.

Irishman Elliot (below), walked away with the coveted Heavyweight prize. The fight was warming up nicely when Elliot delivered the knockout blow.
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Golden Gloves Tournament 1893

Lord Lonsdale (below) was on hand to award the trophy for 'Most Promising Amateur 1893' to Middleweight Champion George Cole.
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7th January 1894 - National Sporting Club, London

Featuring the Commonwealth Middleweight Title

MW - Jack Bonner (19-1-0)(12) KO9 Peter Newton (13-1-0)(13)

Newton arrived at the NSC with a perfect 13-0 record, all by knockout.

By the end of the eighth round you could see why, he had landed some terrible blows to the face of Bonner causing some bad swelling.

The pair went at it again in the ninth. Just as Newton went to land another right hook Bonner caught him with a peach of a right cross. Newton tried to get to his feet but was counted out.

LW - Bobby Dobbs (29-1-0)(15) MD10 Andy Bowen (26-12-0)(21)

Dobbs scrambled past Bowen.

A year ago Dobbs was regarded as near enough unbeatable, McAullife put paid to that theory and now Bowen came within a whisker of pulling of an upset win.

Bowen landed his right hooks with ease, whilst Dobbs failed to dominate with his jab.

Some at ringside thought that Bowen had done enough to gain the points verdict, though he did tire markedly in the last six minutes of the fight.

WW - Abe Hicken (15-2-0)(12) SD10 Andy Watson (15-3-1)(2)

Hicken is on a roll!

After dismantling Tommy West, winning both a European and Commonwealth belt, Hicken won a tight points verdict over the talented but tame Andy Watson.

Hicken, who had alledgedly been enjoying himself after the West victory, was on the front foot throughout and although Watson 'nicked' the last two rounds Hicken had done enough.

Commonwealth Middleweight Title

Ted White (15-1-1)(13) KO10 Billy McCarthy (Holder)(22-4-2)(11)

This bout swung one way then t'other.

White started well and landed the better blows in the first half of the fight.

The bout changed in the eighth stanza when McCarthy landed an uppercut to the temple forcing White to take a knee. The ninth round was all one way traffic with McCarthy landing heavily to the head and body.

It swung White's way again in the tenth. He connected early on with a right cross which floored McCarthy. The Australian veteran struggled to his feet only to ship another right hand from White, the last punch of the bout.

McCarthy is certainly past his best, but the crowd were delighted fro the home man nonetheless.
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1894 Middleweight Update

World Champion - George LaBlanche
American Champion - Vacant
European Champion - Irish Jack Burke
Commonwealth Champion - Ted White
Pacific Champion - Billy McCarthy

Middleweight World Title History

May 1886 - Jack Dempsey TKO10 W C McClellan
Aug 1886 - Jack Dempsey TKO5 Billy Baker
Mar 1887 - Jack Dempsey TKO11 Pete McCoy
Nov 1887 - George La Blanche SD15 Jack Dempsey
May 1888 - George La Blanche TKO9 W C McClellan
Sep 1888 - George La Blanche D15 Jack Fogarty
Dec 1888 - George La Blanche UD15 Jack Dempsey
Mar 1889 - George La Blanche KO5 Frank Bosworth
Jul 1889 - George La Blanche KO14 Pete McCoy
Nov 1889 - Jack Dempsey UD15 George LaBlanche
Jun 1890 - Jack Dempsey TKO8 Jim Hall
May 1891 - Jack Dempsey KO8 Reddy Gallagher
Oct 1891 - Jack Dempsey TKO14 Jack Fogarty
Dec 1891 - Jack Dempsey UD15 Billy McCarthy
April 1892 - Jack Dempsey TKO15 Alec Greggains
Jun 1892 - Jack Dempsey D15 Billy McCarthy
Dec 1892 - Jack Dempsey D15 Jim Fogarty
Sep 1893 - George LaBlanche UD15 Jack Dempsey
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