Bear’s 4-Fs (Fictional Fighters of Film and Fiction)

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In the musical there is

Joe Wellington LW E10

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The Baltimore Chocolate Drop (uncredited) played by James 'Cannonball' Green in Golden Boy (1939). In the play The Drop never appears onstage.

Baltimore Chocolate Drop LW E9

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The Chocloate Drop was replaced by Lopez in the musical. He was played by Jaime Rogers who had previously played Loco in West Side Story.

Jaime Lopez LW S10 Mexico

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Henry Bratsburg (better known today as Harry Morgan-of Dragnet and Mash fame) as Pepper White in the Group theatre's 1937 production of Golden Boy.

Young Pepper White LW s6

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Pepper White (uncredited) played by Frank Jenks in Golden Boy (1939)

Pepper White LW S7

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Arthur O'Connell played Pepper White in 1952 theatre revival.
Created

Pepper O'Connell LW S4

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IMDB gives the following
Fighter (uncredited) played by Al Bayne in Golden Boy (1939)
Ex-Pug (uncredited) played by Irving Cohen ibhof inductee in Golden Boy (1939)
Fighter (uncredited) played by Joe Grey in Golden Boy (1939)
Fighter (uncredited) played by John Kerns
Fighter (uncredited) played by Cy Schindell in Golden Boy (1939)
Created these to reflect these guys using mostly surnames from the play .

Cy Fulton LW B6
Al Guffey LW B3
John K. Talbot LW B3
JoeJoe Pulaski LW S1
Con Irving LW S1

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The following fighters are mentioned in the play by surname only.

Britt Kaplan LW B4
Bags Lombardo LW S6
Vince Vincenti LW S1

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Named in the play are:

Benny Simon LW E12
Paul Weiner LW S4
Phil Mateo LW S3
Eddie Newton LW S2
Kid Peters LW B2

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Also named in the play are:

Frisco Samuels LW 2
Mike Mason LW B2
Marty Welch HW S4
Cy Webster HW S3

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elrorrente
I got my video out today. Also have the book around here somewhere.
Will get to it after a rewatch and a reread.

I'd rate him higher working on retired prime. Gossett was 55 when he took the role and had ballooned to over 240 pounds for his role in The Punisher.
He trained like hell to both loose weight and develop a believable boxing physique. Romano describes his traing regimen. He ate5 to 7 small meals a day to drop 40 pounds. He also did a four month 6 day a week training routine that included sparring sessions. I wish that some of our lard butt heavies like Jam-a-Meal McCline would find this kind of dedication, Gossett did it for a movie role.

I take he insights into the actor's training given in Romano into account when I rate these guys and Gossett gets a big plus for his work to prepare for the film


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Originally Posted by eltorrente

Don't forget Honey Roy Palmer! He should have good endurance, high intellect, recovery, and endurance, since he fought 10 guys in only 12 hours. I was gonna put him in my universe- maybe an overall rating around 7 or so (since he is 48years old in the movie I think).

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Originally Posted by bear

I'd rate him higher working on retired prime. Gossett was 55 when he took the role and had ballooned to over 240 pounds for his role in The Punisher.
He trained like hell to both loose weight and develop a believable boxing physique. Romano describes his traing regimen. He ate5 to 7 small meals a day to drop 40 pounds. He also did a four month 6 day a week training routine that included sparring sessions. I wish that some of our lard butt heavies like Jam-a-Meal McCline would find this kind of dedication, Gossett did it for a movie role.

Another one that needs to take that advice, even more than "Pig Time" is James Toney. I don't think he ever misses a buffet table.

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When I watch classic bouts even the party-animals of yesteryear--guys like Bonavena are in shape to go into championship rounds.

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Originally Posted by a87star

Another one that needs to take that advice, even more than "Pig Time" is James Toney. I don't think he ever misses a buffet table.

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Robert B. Parker, author of the Spenser series is one of my favorite writers. His novel Doubleplay is about an ex-marine, ex-boxer, Joseph Burke who bodyguards Jackie Robinson. Fighters are:

Joseph Burke HW S2
Kid Congo HW B4
Tar Baby Johnson HW B4
Maurice Pitt HW S1

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Originally Posted by bear

When I watch classic bouts even the party-animals of yesteryear--guys like Bonavena are in shape to go into championship rounds.

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That is why Frazier called him the toughest opponent he ever faced. Bonavena was relentless in those fights and in top physical condition.

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I've been adding files to this thread. Why are the images appearing as jpg file and not as pics. The only pic I've been able to transfer is the Joe Plooka belt on another thread. I've moved image files here in the past but I'm obviously missing a step now.

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Originally Posted by bear

I've been adding files to this thread. Why are the images appearing as jpg file and not as pics. The only pic I've been able to transfer is the Joe Plooka belt on another thread. I've moved image files here in the past but I'm obviously missing a step now.

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When you load more than one file on a single post they all appear as line items and photos have to be opened in a separate window. If the only attachment is a single photo file, it will appear as the photo.

Christopher

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Thanks, Chris
I thought I might have been having a senior moment.

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

When you load more than one file on a single post they all appear as line items and photos have to be opened in a separate window. If the only attachment is a single photo file, it will appear as the photo.

Christopher

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Originally Posted by a87star

That is why Frazier called him the toughest opponent he ever faced. Bonavena was relentless in those fights and in top physical condition.

Now we can count the heavies that are in shape on one hand.

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Robert Parker is most noted for creating Spenser, a PI who once fought professionally. Robert Urich played Sepnser in a TV series and several films.

Shamus Spenser HW E5


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