* Updated Fighters * - Page 12

IceTea · 05-12-2007, 02:34 PM

Bob Armstrong HW
Bio added

IceTea · 05-18-2007, 10:05 PM

LC Morgan

Bio added

IceTea · 05-20-2007, 01:55 AM

Corey Spinks MW
Rating: 5

IceTea · 05-20-2007, 01:58 AM

Edison Miranda MW
Rating: 6

IceTea · 05-20-2007, 02:04 AM

Kelly Pavlik MW
Rating: 7

IceTea · 05-21-2007, 01:31 PM

Vladimir Virchis

lethal liberal · 05-22-2007, 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethal liberal

Yeah,Bute and Pascal are both top notch prospects. I have been watching Bute for a couple of years now..he is a tough dude that throws some very crisp,nasty combos. Straight punches with power. Also Diaconu from that area...not really as high on him. I like Ward,but like you say..his chin is a BIG question mark. He reminds me of Allen Green,not style wise,just the way he seems to get hit flush just a little too often for someone with his physical skills.

Change that to really high on Diaconu..LOL. What an aggressive and exciting fighter. What he did to Hoye just surprised the hell out of me. He just walked through him...impressive. What did you guys think of him. Have you rated him Ice? I have him rated as a strong 6..should probably re-rate him again.

lethal liberal · 05-22-2007, 08:56 PM

Sorry Ice...nevermind about the Diaconu rating..I found him in the other thread. Thats about where he should be. Amazing how close some of our ratings are! Take care my friend.

Jim_Kidd · 05-22-2007, 11:20 PM

The updated fighter files are much appreiciated. It's a true labor of love. It's hard, too, because while a fighter's career is in progress, there is often a series of ups and downs which can make it easy to overreact - either way when considering how good a fighter really is.

Great and good fighters have ordinary nights and can be very beatable from time to time. Decent fighters can rise to the occasion and look great for a fight or two before falling back into a pattern of being very average and beatable.

I started creating boxer ratings back in 1979 when I started playing the box game. And I quickly found that it's much easier rating guys who were retired. Then, you have two options.

1. Rate the fighter based upon what he actually did in the ring.
2. Rate the fighter based upon what you thought he might be capable of doing had he been given the chance.

I remember Larry Holmes' ratings when he was rated with the gray cards (current fighters). He was very, very beatable.

What's nice about the current version of the PC game is; You can rate a fighter one way and then affect that rating by moving him to post-prime or end with just a few clicks.

Fighters like Fernando Vargas and David Reid are good examples. Both were different fighters after their respective losses to Felix Trinidad. When I use those kinds of fighters in my universe, I usually give them the benefit of the doubt when rating them in their primes. Then, I move them to post-prime as soon as they suffer the same kind of loss as they did in their actual careers.

That's just how I do it, anyway. I guess there's no right and wrong, it's just up to the individual.

Anyway, the point is, I think you do a good job adjusting the ratings as the fighter's career is in process. You don't overract to a single performance. With guys like Ike Ibeabuchi, there's not much choice. All you have is a few fights. But he's the exception to the average career.

Just a sidebar, it's nice to see so many others who started playing the game when I did, back in the late 1970's!

IceTea · 05-22-2007, 11:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethal liberal

Change that to really high on Diaconu..LOL. What an aggressive and exciting fighter. What he did to Hoye just surprised the hell out of me. He just walked through him...impressive. What did you guys think of him. Have you rated him Ice? I have him rated as a strong 6..should probably re-rate him again.

Don't go overboard.....I have a rating of him on the "new non-heavyweight boxers" thread New Non-HW Boxers Rated

IceTea · 05-22-2007, 11:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lethal liberal

Sorry Ice...nevermind about the Diaconu rating..I found him in the other thread. Thats about where he should be. Amazing how close some of our ratings are! Take care my friend.

Thanks...you are also brilliant.

IceTea · 05-22-2007, 11:50 PM

Pernell Whitaker LW

IceTea · 05-23-2007, 01:49 AM

Domenico Adinolfi LHW/HW

IceTea · 05-23-2007, 01:49 AM

Lucien Rodriguez HW

IceTea · 05-26-2007, 02:27 PM

Lamont Peterson
Anthony Peterson
Stacy "Stay-Lo" Reile

IceTea · 05-26-2007, 02:37 PM

Sebastian Kober HW
Rating: 3
9(9)-0-0

Mark42661 · 05-30-2007, 04:23 AM

Has anyone done a rating for John Duddy?

Thanks

IceTea · 05-30-2007, 12:23 PM

Irish John Duddy MW
Rating: 6

IceTea · 05-30-2007, 02:31 PM

Zbik Sebastian MW
Rating: 5

Mark42661 · 06-01-2007, 04:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IceTea

Irish John Duddy MW
Rating: 6

Thanks for the quick response IceTea.

05-12-2007, 02:34 PM	#221 (permalink)
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05-18-2007, 10:05 PM	#222 (permalink)
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05-20-2007, 01:55 AM	#223 (permalink)
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05-20-2007, 01:58 AM	#224 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hartford, NY Posts: 8,918 Thanks: 258 Thanked 324x in 236 posts	Edison Miranda MW Rating: 6 __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:17 PM.

05-20-2007, 02:04 AM	#225 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hartford, NY Posts: 8,918 Thanks: 258 Thanked 324x in 236 posts	Kelly Pavlik MW Rating: 7 __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Last edited by IceTea; 06-19-2007 at 07:54 PM.

05-21-2007, 01:31 PM	#226 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hartford, NY Posts: 8,918 Thanks: 258 Thanked 324x in 236 posts	Vladimir Virchis __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:17 PM.

05-22-2007, 08:56 PM	#228 (permalink)
lethal liberal All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Logan,WV Posts: 1,124 Thanks: 74 Thanked 5x in 3 posts	Sorry Ice...nevermind about the Diaconu rating..I found him in the other thread. Thats about where he should be. Amazing how close some of our ratings are! Take care my friend. __________________ Member of UTBA Coach of Left Jab Inc (You have to be great to be consistently mediocre) Title Bout devotee since 79 The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have little. FDR

05-22-2007, 11:20 PM	#229 (permalink)
Jim_Kidd All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Florida, West Coast Posts: 578 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	The updated fighter files are much appreiciated. It's a true labor of love. It's hard, too, because while a fighter's career is in progress, there is often a series of ups and downs which can make it easy to overreact - either way when considering how good a fighter really is. Great and good fighters have ordinary nights and can be very beatable from time to time. Decent fighters can rise to the occasion and look great for a fight or two before falling back into a pattern of being very average and beatable. I started creating boxer ratings back in 1979 when I started playing the box game. And I quickly found that it's much easier rating guys who were retired. Then, you have two options. 1. Rate the fighter based upon what he actually did in the ring. 2. Rate the fighter based upon what you thought he might be capable of doing had he been given the chance. I remember Larry Holmes' ratings when he was rated with the gray cards (current fighters). He was very, very beatable. What's nice about the current version of the PC game is; You can rate a fighter one way and then affect that rating by moving him to post-prime or end with just a few clicks. Fighters like Fernando Vargas and David Reid are good examples. Both were different fighters after their respective losses to Felix Trinidad. When I use those kinds of fighters in my universe, I usually give them the benefit of the doubt when rating them in their primes. Then, I move them to post-prime as soon as they suffer the same kind of loss as they did in their actual careers. That's just how I do it, anyway. I guess there's no right and wrong, it's just up to the individual. Anyway, the point is, I think you do a good job adjusting the ratings as the fighter's career is in process. You don't overract to a single performance. With guys like Ike Ibeabuchi, there's not much choice. All you have is a few fights. But he's the exception to the average career. Just a sidebar, it's nice to see so many others who started playing the game when I did, back in the late 1970's!

05-22-2007, 11:50 PM	#232 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hartford, NY Posts: 8,918 Thanks: 258 Thanked 324x in 236 posts	Pernell Whitaker LW __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:17 PM.

05-23-2007, 01:49 AM	#233 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hartford, NY Posts: 8,918 Thanks: 258 Thanked 324x in 236 posts	Domenico Adinolfi LHW/HW __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:17 PM.

05-23-2007, 01:49 AM	#234 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hartford, NY Posts: 8,918 Thanks: 258 Thanked 324x in 236 posts	Lucien Rodriguez HW __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:17 PM.

05-26-2007, 02:27 PM	#235 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hartford, NY Posts: 8,918 Thanks: 258 Thanked 324x in 236 posts	Lamont Peterson Anthony Peterson Stacy "Stay-Lo" Reile __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:17 PM.

05-26-2007, 02:37 PM	#236 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hartford, NY Posts: 8,918 Thanks: 258 Thanked 324x in 236 posts	Sebastian Kober HW Rating: 3 9(9)-0-0 __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:17 PM.

05-30-2007, 04:23 AM	#237 (permalink)
Mark42661 All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 749 Thanks: 50 Thanked 52x in 40 posts	Has anyone done a rating for John Duddy? Thanks

05-30-2007, 12:23 PM	#238 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hartford, NY Posts: 8,918 Thanks: 258 Thanked 324x in 236 posts	Irish John Duddy MW Rating: 6 __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:17 PM.

05-30-2007, 02:31 PM	#239 (permalink)
IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hartford, NY Posts: 8,918 Thanks: 258 Thanked 324x in 236 posts	Zbik Sebastian MW Rating: 5 __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Last edited by IceTea; 02-23-2008 at 05:17 PM.

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