* Updated Fighters *

[IceTea]

Charlie "Choo Choo" Brown LW
Rating: 3
Not sure if I poseted this one?

* He worked out in a gym I belonged to back in the early 90's.

[Jim_Kidd]

Orlando Canizales - BW Champion. Holds record for most consecutive title defenses at 16. Never stopped.

[vistaman44]

Originally Posted by Rasmuth

anybody interested in actually posting the ratings...so losers like me...well...maybe just me, can use them in TBCB1?

I know the upgrade is well worth it...but for now...I'm still TBCB1...

... Right, Todd? I'm still on TBCB1 for the immediate future, too. In the process of moving one state over to "The Show-Me State," so Internet access will be touch-and-go for a while. Hang in there, man.

[meade95]

Originally Posted by hamed

Great idea Ice Tea - as per usual with you!

Think he's only had 9 fights so far & will fight for the WBA jr fly title in August but I've heard good things about Koki Kameda out of Japan.

Maybe you'll have a better handle on him after he fights for a title?

I've seen 3 of Kameda fights on tape - He is definitely for real - Tons of talent (though he really hasn't been hit yet...so his chin is still a question mark??)

He is fighting for the vacated R. Vasquez WBA Jr. Fly Title next month Vs Juan Landaeta -

R. Vasquez is moving up to Fly Wt to take on L. Parra (which should be another excellent match-up).

[IceTea]

John David Jackson MW
Rating: 6

[IceTea]

Sumbu Kalambay
Rating: 11

[a87star]

Originally Posted by meade95

I've seen 3 of Kameda fights on tape - He is definitely for real - Tons of talent (though he really hasn't been hit yet...so his chin is still a question mark??)

He is fighting for the vacated R. Vasquez WBA Jr. Fly Title next month Vs Juan Landaeta -

R. Vasquez is moving up to Fly Wt to take on L. Parra (which should be another excellent match-up).

Some excellent matchups amongst the FLY's in the next few months. Meade what do you think of the SW fight that Niida will be having this fall?

[hamed]

What about Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero? As I recall, he's rated as a 4 @ FW. Seems like he's better than that now.

[IceTea]

Originally Posted by hamed

What about Robert "The Ghost" Guerrero? As I recall, he's rated as a 4 @ FW. Seems like he's better than that now.

Here is the one from the new data base. He is a 5.

[lethal liberal]

Oh yeah,Kalambay,what a slick fighter. He made some very good fighters look like they were lost in the ring. I think he is one of the guys that you hardly hear mentioned when talking about some of the great fighters of recent years. He is one of the underrated fighters in recent memory. He may not have been the most exciting fighter,but anyone who stepped in the ring with him knew they were in for a very long night.

[IceTea]

Originally Posted by lethal liberal

Oh yeah,Kalambay,what a slick fighter. He made some very good fighters look like they were lost in the ring. I think he is one of the guys that you hardly hear mentioned when talking about some of the great fighters of recent years. He is one of the underrated fighters in recent memory. He may not have been the most exciting fighter,but anyone who stepped in the ring with him knew they were in for a very long night.

* I keep mentioning him to Hall of Fame voters. He did defeat McCallum and several other middleweights of the era. He was my favorite Middleweight of all time.

MJ

[hamed]

Thanks for "The Ghost" IceTea.

I think I saw Sumbu in one fight against Nunn where Nunn took him out with one punch.

[IceTea]

Originally Posted by hamed

Thanks for "The Ghost" IceTea.

I think I saw Sumbu in one fight against Nunn where Nunn took him out with one punch.

The was the first, last, and only time that he got stopped. When I look at a figher's career, I take the best and the worst fight and toss them out. What is left is what you got.

MJ

[hamed]

Originally Posted by IceTea

The was the first, last, and only time that he got stopped. When I look at a figher's career, I take the best and the worst fight and toss them out. What is left is what you got.

MJ

True, it was shocking because I can't recall Nunn taking out too many people like that. He was just a tall, lefty boxer mostly.

[IceTea]

I have set this fighter to retirement since he hasn't been in the ring for two years.

Jovo Pudar HW
Rating: 4
22(12)-3-0
Boxer

[IceTea]

Jason Litzau FW
Rating: 6
Pre-Prime

I rated him last July, this is an update with some tinkering.

MJ

[IceTea]

Freddie Roach FW/LW

Not sure who rated this one but all I did was fill out some of the fighters info. I didn't tweak any ratings.

MJ

[Jim_Kidd]

Originally Posted by IceTea

* I keep mentioning him to Hall of Fame voters. He did defeat McCallum and several other middleweights of the era. He was my favorite Middleweight of all time.

MJ

What did you like about Kalambay? I was curious, because I didn't think we had too much exposure to him over here in the United States. Besides his fights against McCallum and Nunn, I don't know anything about him and haven't seen much written about him, either.

[IceTea]

Originally Posted by Jim_Kidd

What did you like about Kalambay? I was curious, because I didn't think we had too much exposure to him over here in the United States. Besides his fights against McCallum and Nunn, I don't know anything about him and haven't seen much written about him, either.

Look at the fighters on his record. He did defeat McCallum when the "body snatcher" was in his prime. McCallum is a hall of famer. His only bad fight was the one against Nunn. I've read several stories about him over the years. Do a G-search, it is all there. He is now a trainer in Italy. He has the heavyweight P. Vidoz.

MJ

[IceTea]

Terry Smith HW
Rating: weak 4