Women Fighters

gocubsgo · 06-20-2007, 10:23 PM

Hey guys other than what is on cornerwork are there any other sources for the women fighters?

IceTea · 06-21-2007, 03:49 AM

I've rated a couple but I know them both and most likely overrated them. Women fighters are more difficult to rate because they haven't been around for long and there isn't much to compare against. Is Christie Martin really a 15? Or is she just the best of a bad lot?

From what I see, female fighters are 100% better than they were ten years ago on average. Many today have good skills in the pro ranks. Even many of the amateur fighters have nice skills.

We have a few in our gym that are pretty good. Mellisa St Vil just turned pro, she trained in Utica for a while.

http://www.uticaod.com/news/photogal...xer/boxer1.htm

MJ

gocubsgo · 06-21-2007, 11:18 AM

Thanks Ice. I had thought about doing a New Uni with just women but it doesnt seem like there would enough of them to last very long.

mh2365 · 06-21-2007, 12:16 PM

You could always add Dirrell since he ran like a woman last Friday night

IceTea · 06-21-2007, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

You could always add Dirrell since he ran like a woman last Friday night

I already did him. I may have to adjust a few things.

MJ

mh2365 · 06-21-2007, 01:33 PM

Is there a scared to fight rating?

hamed · 06-21-2007, 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mh2365

You could always add Dirrell since he ran like a woman last Friday night

Nice!

a87star · 06-21-2007, 03:55 PM

I think womens boxing has gotten better in the last five to ten years but some people choose to have a negative attitude towards it for several reasons. A lot of boxing promoters and fans are very gendered and think women should not be in the ring or if a type of match does take place the participants should look like supermodels, eye candy, ect.

My issue with the above thinking is, if a woman has real talent and can box, why have the attitude they shouldn't be in a ring competing against other women with equal talent? IMO there is nothing wrong with that. However, mismatches are quite prevalent in womens boxing (not saying there isn't on the mens side) and it's usually one of the females like Mia St. John and whoever the promoter is bring in another women who has little skill just to make their fighter look good and make themselves and their fighter money and since womens boxing is in it's infancy, this type of activity happens way more often because the playing field is so uneven but there is definite signs of the matchmaking beginning to improve, albeit at a slow pace.

If anyone sat down and watched WNF, the co-feature was a pretty good matchup between Jamie Clampitt and Jane Couch. It was closer than the judges scorecards read (hometown scoring is another issue) but it seems like ESPN is the only network that is trying to get womens boxing on the air but don't expect the bigger cable networks like HBO or SHO to put it on TV. I hear the execs at those networks bash womens boxing to no end.

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gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,504 Thanks: 21 Thanked 4x in 4 posts	Women Fighters Hey guys other than what is on cornerwork are there any other sources for the women fighters?

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IceTea Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: New Hartford, NY Posts: 8,918 Thanks: 258 Thanked 324x in 236 posts	I've rated a couple but I know them both and most likely overrated them. Women fighters are more difficult to rate because they haven't been around for long and there isn't much to compare against. Is Christie Martin really a 15? Or is she just the best of a bad lot? From what I see, female fighters are 100% better than they were ten years ago on average. Many today have good skills in the pro ranks. Even many of the amateur fighters have nice skills. We have a few in our gym that are pretty good. Mellisa St Vil just turned pro, she trained in Utica for a while. http://www.uticaod.com/news/photogal...xer/boxer1.htm MJ __________________ Don't worry, be happy! Women's Boxing Cyber Boxing Zone IFBA Philadelphia Boxing Fighterlist Boxrec Ross Boxing Last edited by IceTea; 06-21-2007 at 03:54 AM.

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06-21-2007, 11:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
gocubsgo All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 1,504 Thanks: 21 Thanked 4x in 4 posts	Thanks Ice. I had thought about doing a New Uni with just women but it doesnt seem like there would enough of them to last very long.

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mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 posts Infractions: 0/2 (101)	You could always add Dirrell since he ran like a woman last Friday night

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mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3x in 3 posts Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Is there a scared to fight rating?

06-21-2007, 03:55 PM	#8 (permalink)
a87star Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Staten Island, NY Posts: 4,845 Thanks: 110 Thanked 20x in 16 posts	I think womens boxing has gotten better in the last five to ten years but some people choose to have a negative attitude towards it for several reasons. A lot of boxing promoters and fans are very gendered and think women should not be in the ring or if a type of match does take place the participants should look like supermodels, eye candy, ect. My issue with the above thinking is, if a woman has real talent and can box, why have the attitude they shouldn't be in a ring competing against other women with equal talent? IMO there is nothing wrong with that. However, mismatches are quite prevalent in womens boxing (not saying there isn't on the mens side) and it's usually one of the females like Mia St. John and whoever the promoter is bring in another women who has little skill just to make their fighter look good and make themselves and their fighter money and since womens boxing is in it's infancy, this type of activity happens way more often because the playing field is so uneven but there is definite signs of the matchmaking beginning to improve, albeit at a slow pace. If anyone sat down and watched WNF, the co-feature was a pretty good matchup between Jamie Clampitt and Jane Couch. It was closer than the judges scorecards read (hometown scoring is another issue) but it seems like ESPN is the only network that is trying to get womens boxing on the air but don't expect the bigger cable networks like HBO or SHO to put it on TV. I hear the execs at those networks bash womens boxing to no end.