Ratings of the Day Council - Page 13

djday45 · 05-11-2009, 06:58 PM

I usually shy away and dislike rating active fighters until their careers are over and complete.
It is very hard to get accuracy until you see
thewhole
picture.

bear · 05-11-2009, 07:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djday45

I usually shy away and dislike rating active fighters until their careers are over and complete.
It is very hard to get accuracy until you see
thewhole
picture.

I don't like rating them either, and for the same reason you give. Even in the case of some obvious TC types I tend to leave them alone if they are still acive unless I'm looking for a fighter from a particualar country and weight class and pickings in boxrec are slim. The only active "name" fighters I might think about rating would be guys that have fought in a number of weight classes and have definitely "outgrown" a class. I think a snapshot of that portion of their career, could be viable, but aside from that, I like having a complete picture.

bear

djday45 · 05-11-2009, 09:36 PM

yep exactly, to me rating a fighter is like solving a great puzzle, each fight is like a tiny clue.

Rating active fighters is an exercise in guesswork that I also find harder for another reason im too emotionally involved.

I need some time and distance so I can get dispassionat regarding their strengths and weaknesses.

John Dewey · 05-11-2009, 10:10 PM

While I undertand that philosophy, I don't adhere to it. I habitually rate any fighter I see on TV even if he's making his pro debut and now post it in my Miscellaneous Fighters thread. I acknowledge that these fighter's records will undoubtedly need adjustmanet, perhaps even major adjustment, but these are unofficial fighter ratings after all and are there for the fun of it. If historical accuracy was the only consideration in the game then we wouldn't have a random fighter mechanism in it and we wouldn't have tons of fictional fighters posted. By the way, while I'm mainly focused right now on reviviing fighters from earlier versions of the game, I've been toying around with the idea of creating templates for fighters whose overall ratings are higher then zero going all the way up to 15. These templates could theoretically be adjusted to fit any historical fighter that is being rated or form the base upon which a fictional fighter could be fleshed out.

bear · 05-11-2009, 11:31 PM

The template project sounds wonderful

djday45 · 05-12-2009, 02:37 AM

Gene Tunney

djday45 · 05-13-2009, 03:47 AM

Stanley Ketchel

djday45 · 05-13-2009, 04:28 AM

Carlos Monzon

djday45 · 05-13-2009, 04:58 AM

Joe Walcott

djday45 · 05-13-2009, 06:39 AM

Rocky Marciano

djday45 · 05-13-2009, 08:35 AM

Tony Canzoneri

djday45 · 05-13-2009, 11:43 AM

Barney Ross

djday45 · 05-13-2009, 12:05 PM

Pancho Villa

djday45 · 05-13-2009, 03:24 PM

Larry Holmes

djday45 · 05-14-2009, 05:21 AM

Sandy Saddler

djday45 · 05-14-2009, 05:44 AM

George Dixon

djday45 · 05-14-2009, 07:54 AM

Roy Jones Jr

djday45 · 05-14-2009, 09:25 AM

Ike Williams

djday45 · 05-15-2009, 05:02 AM

does not seem to create much intrest in the fighters im posting which is a shame, oh well.

Mad Bomber · 05-15-2009, 08:21 AM

Dean, I am very interested to see what your take is on the fighters of the past, but at the moment I don't have the capacity to open a zip file with my current system since my system crashed in October, and was replaced with less than what I had previously.

05-11-2009, 10:10 PM	#244 (permalink)
John Dewey Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2008 Posts: 2,114 Thanks: 3 Thanked 729x in 547 posts	Rating active fighters While I undertand that philosophy, I don't adhere to it. I habitually rate any fighter I see on TV even if he's making his pro debut and now post it in my Miscellaneous Fighters thread. I acknowledge that these fighter's records will undoubtedly need adjustmanet, perhaps even major adjustment, but these are unofficial fighter ratings after all and are there for the fun of it. If historical accuracy was the only consideration in the game then we wouldn't have a random fighter mechanism in it and we wouldn't have tons of fictional fighters posted. By the way, while I'm mainly focused right now on reviviing fighters from earlier versions of the game, I've been toying around with the idea of creating templates for fighters whose overall ratings are higher then zero going all the way up to 15. These templates could theoretically be adjusted to fit any historical fighter that is being rated or form the base upon which a fictional fighter could be fleshed out.

05-11-2009, 11:31 PM	#245 (permalink)
bear Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Chicago Posts: 10,961 Thanks: 113 Thanked 1,388x in 1,029 posts	The template project sounds wonderful __________________ Bear's Unstable UTBA Season Four Gold Conference Central Division Champion First UTBA expansion franchise to win a conference divisional title

05-15-2009, 05:02 AM	#259 (permalink)
djday45 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,474 Thanks: 3 Thanked 19x in 12 posts	mmm does not seem to create much intrest in the fighters im posting which is a shame, oh well.

05-15-2009, 08:21 AM	#260 (permalink)
Mad Bomber All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Toronto, Canada Posts: 1,554 Thanks: 93 Thanked 18x in 17 posts	Dean, I am very interested to see what your take is on the fighters of the past, but at the moment I don't have the capacity to open a zip file with my current system since my system crashed in October, and was replaced with less than what I had previously. __________________ Keep on Punchin' There are three things that go on a fighter, first your reflexes go, then your chin goes, and then your friends go. Willie Pep

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05-11-2009, 06:58 PM	#241 (permalink)
djday45 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,474 Thanks: 3 Thanked 19x in 12 posts	I usually shy away and dislike rating active fighters until their careers are over and complete. It is very hard to get accuracy until you see thewhole picture.

05-11-2009, 09:36 PM	#243 (permalink)
djday45 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 1,474 Thanks: 3 Thanked 19x in 12 posts	yep exactly, to me rating a fighter is like solving a great puzzle, each fight is like a tiny clue. Rating active fighters is an exercise in guesswork that I also find harder for another reason im too emotionally involved. I need some time and distance so I can get dispassionat regarding their strengths and weaknesses.