New Non-HW Boxers Rated

[IceTea]

Originally Posted by Elite66

IceTea, I don't think that your file had anything to do with my issue. I was saying tahnk you for the file and just asking a question about my proble. Sorry, I should have made that clearer. Bill

MY bad. Sorry I can't help you with your issue. I'm lucky if I know how to turn my computer on.

MJ

[CONN CHRIS]

Jimmy McNamara - LW (1926-1936) Overall Rating = 5

Hometown - Greenwich Village, New York
42(8)-16-8

McNamara was touted as a protege of Gene Tunney. He feasted on local and lesser talent but had difficulties with the better fighters of the thirties. He scored eight round decisions over Joe Glick and Marty Goldman but lost to Petey Sarron, Sammy Dorfman, Pete Nebo, Kid Wolfe, Eddie Ran and Ray Miller among others. He was only stopped by Wolfe and Ran but the stoppage to Ran was a dousey. Ran put him down and the referee dispensed with the count because McNamara was so out.

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Jimmy McNamara

[David Myers]

Only after I posted his photo did I realize that Andres Antonio Selpa had not been rated. An Argentine middleweight, he fought from 1951 to 1968, compiling a career record of 139-49-30 (81). He was stopped six times.

Selpa defeated Eduardo Lausse for the South American title in October 1956, defended it against Ubaldo Sacco and Humberto Loayza before losing it to Lausse in September 1958. Apparently a dirty fighter, he lost eight bouts via disqualification.

[David Myers]

Welterweight from Englewood, N.J., who fought from 1948 to 1957, compiling a record of 26-18-2 (8). He was stopped just once--by Wilfredo Miro, via seventh-round knockout, in February 1949.

Largely a trial horse, Al Wilson lost to a young Randy Sandy, Johnny Bratton (twice, once on a split decision), Ramon Fuentes, Maurice Harper, Ronnie Delaney, Isaac Logart, Garnet Hart, and Jimmy Moulton. He split with Bobby Lloyd, Jetson Arnold, and Ted Murray. He defeated Billy Mims, Phil Burton (twice), Pat Lowry, and Jackie O'Brien among others.

Action photo to follow.

[David Myers]

Wilson in his September 1955 unanimous-decision loss to Isaac Logart.

[Rocco Del Sesto]

Originally Posted by David Myers

Only after I posted his photo did I realize that Andres Antonio Selpa had not been rated. An Argentine middleweight, he fought from 1951 to 1968, compiling a career record of 139-49-30 (81). He was stopped six times.

Selpa defeated Eduardo Lausse for the South American title in October 1956, defended it against Ubaldo Sacco and Humberto Loayza before losing it to Lausse in September 1958. Apparently a dirty fighter, he lost eight bouts via disqualification.

Here's a Middleweight version of Selpa that I'd had. I thought it was a game version that came with TB2. Also I've attached a LHW version. His career had breakdown in it first MW and then LHW that I took a stab and posted sometime back the LHW version.

Rocco

[David Myers]

A native of Oregon who fought out of San Diego, Al Trulmans was active from 1929 to 1939, compiling a record of 35-16-8 (11). He was stopped just once--by Ceferino Garcia in his next-to-last bout.

Trulmans beat Bermondsey Billy Wells, Charley Feraci, Indian Mike Payan, Manuel Victoria, and Augie Arellano. He split with Swede Berglund and Johnny (Bandit) Romero, and lost to Young Jack Thompson, Don Fraser (twice), Ron Richards, Jack Carroll, Sammy Slaughter, Jack Gibbsons, and Garcia.

As is too common, no photo to be found. Have a nice weekend, everybody!

[David Myers]

Another in my seemingly endless line of New York Jewish fighters.

Herbie Kronowitz was a ranked middleweight in the forties, ending his ten-year career with a record of 56-23-5 (10). He was stopped twice.

According to a brief biography at Jews in Sports, Kronowitz grew up idolizing Ben Jeby and "always" wanted to be a fighter.

I playtested the attached ratings against over 1,100 fighters with ratings of 4 and below. Against this cohort, Kronowitz performed with superb accuracy.

A good photo to follow.

[David Myers]

The Brooklyn middleweight who fought from 1940 to 1950.

[David Myers]

Another Brooklyn middleweight. Vinnie Cidone carried a lethal left hook, which brought him to a record of 35-12-0 (21) in four years. In his best fight, he floored Rocky Graziano before losing on cuts. (Cidone cut easily. He lost eight times on TKO's, usually because of cuts.)

A contemporary and rival of Herbie Kronowitz--they split their two bouts--Cidone was playtested against the same set of fighters and performed quite accurately.

No photo, although I've included a link to a nice little article on Cidone.

[jofre]

Originally Posted by Rocco Del Sesto

Here's a Middleweight version of Selpa that I'd had. I thought it was a game version that came with TB2. Also I've attached a LHW version. His career had breakdown in it first MW and then LHW that I took a stab and posted sometime back the LHW version.

Rocco

Selpa was rated in an earlier version of the game.

[IceTea]

I had to create him for my "All-Time Cruiserweight Tournament" and moma always said, share!

Bobby Czyz
7(2)-1-0 as a Cruiserweight
Champion when he defeated Daniels in 1991.
Rating: 6

[IceTea]

Bert Cooper
Philadelphia, PA
Rating: 5
19(14)-2-0 as a CW

* Update The TB boxer data base contains a Bert Cooper at CW, though mine is close, somehow, that file maybe a more accurate for your use.

MJ

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[Rocco Del Sesto]

LHW 1961-72 Rating 1 Netherlands
19 wins / 15 losses / 4 draws / 6 KO

Hometown: Amsterdam, NH

Rating by: Rocco Del Sesto

Bas fought a good many of the better know light heavies from Europe of the 60's with a sprinkling of heavyweights. His many opponents included wins over Valere Mahau,, Hans Waschlewski, Gerd Englbrecht, Harry Kneipp, Helmut Bal, Horst Benedens, Sugar Boy Nando, Lloyd Walford, Arno Prick, and Roy John. He fought draws with Finn Jensen, Kneipp, Lars Olov Norling, and Ivan Prebeg.

He lost bouts to Heini Meinhardt twice, Lennart Risberg, Klaus Peter Gumpert, Pekka Kokkonen, Wilhelm von Homburg, Horst Benedens, Bernard Thebault, Alfredo Vogrig, Pedro Miranda, Vittorio Saraudi, Piero Del Papa, Jose Manuel Urtain, and finally in May and again in November 1971, Bas lost two bids for the Dutch Heavyweight Title loosing first to Rudi Lubbers by 12 round decision and then was KO'd by Lubbers in the 5th round in the 2nd bout.

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All the photos in this thread prior to this post have been re-filed in the photos forum.

If you post a new photo here, please be sure to post a duplicate in the proper folder (by decade of debut) over there as well. This way, future and current board members will be able to more easily locate the photo that you made an effort to find and re-size.

Thank you!
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[vistaman44]

Has anyone rated Yodsanan or Kwanjai (or any others, LOL!) 3K Battery? I have pics for three different guys with that "last name," but only a Fahsan file. I would appreciate anyone's ratings of others with that name. Maybe Chris or Scot? Anyone?

Thanks in advance!

[CONN CHRIS]

Yodsanan was done by the Trunzos I believe but is under one of his other aliases. I think I may have done Kwajai along with a few of the 13 Riantowers. I may have another 3K fighters too, I will check tonight at home Mark.

The biggest of the 3Ks, Samson, was done by the Trunzos but under the Dutch Boy Gym moniker if memory serves. He was best known as 3K so I changed him in my database.

[vistaman44]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Yodsanan was done by the Trunzos I believe but is under one of his other aliases. I think I may have done Kwajai along with a few of the 13 Riantowers. I may have another 3K fighters too, I will check tonight at home Mark.

The biggest of the 3Ks, Samson, was done by the Trunzos but under the Dutch Boy Gym moniker if memory serves. He was best known as 3K so I changed him in my database.

I have Samson Dutch Boy Gym (a/k/a 3K Battery) and Fahsan 3K Battery. What is Yodsanan's other name? Don't have Kwanjai or any others, so all appreciated. You da man!