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Old 09-01-2006, 09:38 PM   #2961 (permalink)
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Talking From the list ...

... here are a few updates. We can scratch Flash Elorde (real name Gabriel in the database), Ron Essett (rated by Tea or SAL), Hilton Fitzpatrick (Fitzie in the original database), Paul Takeshi is Paul Takeshi Fuji or Paul Fuji in the database, and Eckhard Dagge is in there and recently updated by Tea in this string. More to come ...
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:43 PM   #2962 (permalink)
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Here are a few ...

... others I rated or found in my database:
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Old 09-01-2006, 09:50 PM   #2963 (permalink)
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And more from ...

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Old 09-01-2006, 09:54 PM   #2964 (permalink)
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And these ...

... are about it for this batch.
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:16 PM   #2965 (permalink)
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Two more Africans

Shadrack Kipruto and Andrew Malgas. Kipruto's first name sometimes spelled Shadrach (I went with the Boxrec spelling).
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Old 09-01-2006, 11:28 PM   #2966 (permalink)
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Great work Mark .. how's that pre 20's project coming along
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Old 09-02-2006, 12:17 AM   #2967 (permalink)
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Great work Mark .. how's that pre 20's project coming along
Well, except for the guy I said I'd start with, Frankie Ash, it hasn't gotten very far ... but at least here he is. (Sorry, no pic.)
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Old 09-02-2006, 07:53 AM   #2969 (permalink)
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Thank you Mark! Would you mind posting Eckhard Dagge?
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The list has been updated for Mark's additions and Romultiltus' recent photos.
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Old 09-02-2006, 07:21 PM   #2971 (permalink)
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Thank you Mark! Would you mind posting Eckhard Dagge?
... here are some others from recent posts that fit into one of my universes ...
Pics for Blay and Tiger (probably Dagge and Giannelli, too, LOL!) were in Romultiltis' great posts on the Missing Photos string.
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Does anyone have ...

... photos for these two guys -- Modest (Yushin) Napunyi and Flywell Botha? I rated both recently, although I thought maybe Chris had rated Botha but I couldn't find that file. Anyway ...

I'm also still looking for an Andrei (Andrej) Schkalikov (Shkalikov) pic, too. Thanks in advance for any help.
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Here are two ...

... more I had rated that Romultiltis recently posted pics of over in the other string: Ray "Lethal" Lathon and Roman George.
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... photos for these two guys -- Modest (Tushing) Napping and Flywell Botha? I rated both recently, although I thought maybe Chris had rated Both but I couldn't find that file.

I'm also still looking for an Andrei (Andrej) Suchlike (Kharkov) pic, too. Thanks in advance for any help.
I did rate Botha some time ago, I think I posted him in your Africa thread. I have him in my universe now and have searched for a photo a number of times to no avail. I will be thrilled but surprised if a pic turns up, he did not have a terribly long career.

Unfortunately, I have none of the others either.
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I just took a look back at Botha. He fought at fly and jfly but I rated him at jfly as a 4 based largely on the two decision fights with Muchoki. (that may be a tad high, but there wasn't much to go on) I assumed that he likely had a decent amateur career and probably more fights than boxrec listed at the time (9). Pretty speculative.
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I just took a look back at Botha. He fought at fly and jfly but I rated him at jfly as a 4 based largely on the two decision fights with Muchoki. (that may be a tad high, but there wasn't much to go on) I assumed that he likely had a decent amateur career and probably more fights than boxrec listed at the time (9). Pretty speculative.
... Now people will have Botha them to choose from ... (GROAN).

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To make up for ...

... the horrendous pun, here are a few universe fillers. Rocky Mosley Sr. and Pete Gil first
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Last two ...

... for tonight: Joe Martinez and Jose Martinez. Both feathers and ones, but no relation. One is from California and the other from Spain.

G'nite, all.
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Here's another one ...

... for Mike's 1910-1919 flyweight files -- Johnny Rosner, who fought and lost in the first IBU flyweight world title fight. Sorry, once again no pic.

What I'm finding, more for the guys of that era even than my 1940s universe, is that these guys didn't stay in one weight class and it's hard to define a true fly because the ones I've looked at so far (Ash, Rosner, working on Frankie Mason and Roy Moore) all fought guys anywhere from paperweight to lightweight, bouncing between classes freely.

For instance, this guy fought Wilde, Herman, Coulon, Mason, Pancho, Montreal, Genaro, Burns, Buff, Dunn, Zulu Kid and Murray ... guys who are listed anywhere from fly to lightweight.
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