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[jofre]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Thank you Jofre:

It can be tough to rate someone who you never saw or have any knowledge of. Looking through his record, Veranis appears to have beaten a string of quite unimpressive fighters and to have quit when he met resistance. Do you have any suggestions for a rating?

Thanks,

Christopher

Chris, Veranis was very talented, but unfortunately he just wasn't dedicated enough to get to the next level. Here is what I have on him.

[CONN CHRIS]

Thanks Jofre, and my appologies for undervaluing a fine Bay stater

Christopher

[jofre]

Chris,

Its difficult to rate fighters we haven't seen. So basically we have to look at their level of competition and rate them on how they fared against other rated Fighters. The more difficult factor is downgrading their skill ratings to reflect real life scenarios.

For example, take Ted Whitfield of Amherst, MA, former world rated welter mid 60s.

Ted Whitfield was a gifted boxer-puncher in the Ray Robinson mold. He possessed better than average power, a hard left jab, fast hands and legs and threw dazzling combinations. Ring Magazine New England Correspondent Don Hamill considered Whitfield the best New England prospect he had seen since Willie Pep.
Ted started boxing in his native Buffalo, NY. He won two golden gloves titles before entering the U.S. Army. While in the service with the 101st Airborne Division he won the All-Army 118 lb title in 1962 and the All-Service 126 lb title in 1963.
Upon his discharge from the Army in 1964, he settled in Massachusetts and captured the Western Massachusetts Golden Gloves Title in the featherweight class and went on to take the New England championship in Lowell, Massachusetts.
Ted turned professional in October 1964 and over the next year and a half went undefeated in 23 fights, winning 14 by knockout.
During that stretch he captured the New England Welterweight Title and fought his way into a number 3 world ranking in the welterweight division with victories over Gaspar Ortega and Charley Scott.
During his unbeaten run it was rumored that Ted was hard to handle and lacked dedication. The rumors turned out to be true as a less than prepared Whitfield lost two consecutive fights in an eleven day span to the ordinary Leroy Roberts and fringe contender Pete Toro.
Three months later a less than confident Whitfield met welterweight champion Curtis Cokes in Dallas in a non title fight and was knocked out in the third round.
Ted stayed out of the ring for three months and returned only to drop back to back decisions to Mike Cruz in Worcester, MA and Marcel Cerdan, Jr. in Paris, France. Six months later Ted won a split decision over journeyman Dave Dittmar in Walpole and retired shortly after.
Who knows what heights Ted would have achieved if he hadn’t squandred his god-given talents.
I personally saw him in action from his dazzling display in winning the New England Golden Glove title in Lowell and his seven professional fights in Boston. Until his career started to unravel, he was the best New England prospect I had the pleasure of watching until Marvelous Marvin Hagler.

[CONN CHRIS]

Thank you Dan,

Good insights, please feel free to jump in anytime you see a stinker of a rating. It always helps to get input from someone who knows the fighter somewhat.

Take care,

Christopher

[SAL]

Eddie Connors WW 1954-1960
Overall rating = 5
22-7-1 (18)

[jofre]

Originally Posted by SAL

Eddie Connors WW 1954-1960
Overall rating = 5
22-7-1 (18)

Sal, here is his photo.

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Jackie Burke BW 1964-1971
Canada
17-15-0 (2)
Overall rating = 2

Former Canadian BW Champion

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Alex Burlie Flyweight 1923-1928
Canada
12-6-1 (2)
Overall rating = 4

Lost to Newsboy Brown in 10 rounds on points.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by jofre

Sal, here is his photo.

Thanks for the photo jofre

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Jimmy Connors FW 1957-1963
Boston, MA, USA
29-8-1 (16)
Overall rating = 5

Hometown: Boston, MA

Birthplace: New Bedford, MA

29-8-1 (16)

#14 Ring Prospect for the month of November, 1957.

Jimmy started his pro career out going 14-0-1 (7). In his 16th pro fight he met Willie Pep and suffered his first defeat as a pro losing in 10 rounds on points. Jimmy's amateur record was 22-2-0 fighting for the McGuire Air Force Boxing Team in 1956. Jimmy was the 118 pound Northeast Air Force Champion and the 118 pound All-Air Force World Wide Champion. Jimmy also was the 1956 National AAU Tournament Quarter-Finalist.

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Jackie Conway WW 1920-1927
Minneapolis, MN, USA
7-7-2 (1)
Overall rating = 1

[jofre]

Originally Posted by SAL

Jimmy Connors FW 1957-1963

Jimmy is alive and well and still in great shape. Only, much less hair.

[CONN CHRIS]

GEORGE TORRECILLAS LHW (1959-1968) Overall Rating = 1

Hometown - Oran, France

6(2)-15-0

Torrecillas beat Wladislas Kopec while losing to Germinal Ballarin, Lennart Risberg, Pekka Kokkonen, Yao Kouame and Alfredo Vogrig. He was stopped eight times in 22 bouts.

[CONN CHRIS]

BERNIE TERRELL WW (1968-1972) Overall Rating = 3

Hometown - Edmonton, England, UK

23(12)-4-1

British Southern Area Welterweight Champion

Terrell lost a bid for the British and Commonwealth titles to Ralph Charles via eighth round TKO. He beat Chris Jobson, Des Rea, Ricky Porter and Peter Cragg. Terrell lost to Joergen Hansen Barry Claderwood , John H Stracey and was stopped three times.

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Kenny Craven HW 1996-active
Ellisville, MS, USA
25-15-0 (22)

All 15 of his losses have been TKO or KO's. Six rounds is the longest fight he has been in so far.

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I'm cleaning up my image folder for fighters and have found some photos that I've downloaded from the forum but I don't have the TBDX files to go with them.
Anybody have tbdx. files for:
Vic Caltaux, Tony Cancela, Frank Carbone, Paul Cardoza, Larry Carney,
Roy (Ace) Clark, John P Clow, James Robertson (JR) Couper, Charles Cox
and Jesse Crown.

Scot

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Clarence Brown HW 1938-1947
Chicago, IL, USA
17-21-3 (6)
Overall rating = 1

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Three more for the list, photos posted below.

Ramon "Bobby" Cervantes FW 1956-1962
La Laguna, Mexico
32-9-1 (20)
Overall rating = 5

George Cooper MW 1966-1978
Oakland, CA, USA
38-5-3 (25)
Overall rating = 6

Rocky Cudney WW 1972-1974
Buffalo, NY, USA
11-2-1 (8)
Overall rating = 5

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Ramon (Bobby) Cervantes #106235

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George Cooper #021274