Performance Points roll back to previous total after closing and restarting game?

[xamdam]

I recently changed from version 2.0.15 (I think) to version 2.0.27. I keep having a problem where I run a fight, the performance points change as they should, and then when I close the game and restart it, the performance points have reverted to where they were before running the last fight. I base my pound-for-pound rankings on those points, so it's really frustrating. I saw something similar posted under the "Public Beta 2.0.25 available! (EDIT: 2.0.27 now)" thread, but didn't see a fix. Is there a way to fix this? Or is their a way to revert to version 2.0.15? I'd love to keep using the new ranking system, but unfortunately it doesn't seem to be stable.

[lethal liberal]

I have had the same problem and I think a few others as well. As far as I know it hasnt been fixed yet. At least the points on the history screen are still there...so if you have the time and patience you could manually figure out the ratings. I assume this will be addressed in a future patch. I am just going back to ranking them myself..use the record and my own judgement for a little while. If you figure it out let me know...I will do the same.

[JCWeb]

I too have run into this same problem (it has been reported to the powers that be at OOTP about a month or so after the patch with the new perf pts came out in early February or so). Until there is a fix, the time-consuming manual adjustment procedure (first posted on this board a few months ago at posts 79-82 on the top thread of the general discussion forum referencing the latest patch) is to manually save each fighters' current PP after each bout. You do this by bringing up the "Statistics" screen for the fighter(s) in question (top of the page once you are in the "Fighters" option) and then click the little arrow next to "Records" which brings up a series of popup screens that gives you the option to change various elements of a fighter's record. Keep clicking until the eighth or ninth window for Perf Pts comes up, then click save near the lower right hand corner and your up to date PPs will be there next time you fire it up. This work-around, while a real pain in the toukas, has worked for me and I recommend it if you care about having accurate rankings.

This same procedure, by the way, will also allow you to adjust a fighter's perf. pts level to any number desired, i.e., it is a way around another bug in the patch that causes the starting values to be set at either 0 or 1000 rather than the default number which is supposed to be 200. If you are adjusting a fighter with no bouts, you need to enter a phony win before you change the perf pts, save it, then do it all over again deleting the phony win, as the program right now will not allow you to change the perf pts numbers of any fighter without at least one bout.

Both these bugs have been reported to OOTP (both to Andreas and Jim Trunzo) and hopefully one of these days they will be fixed.

[mh2365]

Does anyone know if it is happening with ranked fighters? I am only seeing it with unranked guys.

[JCWeb]

My early experience with this bug (until I started compulsively saving every bout) was that it tended to appear more often with the newer fighters, but I have a vague recollection of seeing it happen with a couple of established guys as well. More recently, one time when I think the game froze up on me before I did the manual save, I saw that the perf. pts were there for one bout between established fighters, so you may be right.

Incidentally, in those after-the-fact cases where you observe that a bout's Perf Pts were not automaticallysaved, if you want to re-set the stats to the proper number you can do so just by looking at the history screen for the fighter(s) in question and then add or subtract the PPs listed there (I think it's rounded to the nearest tenth of a point) for any bout which was not saved, using the procedure for editing a fighter's perf pts on the Statistics screen as discussed above.

[lethal liberal]

That is what I have been doing,looking at the history screen and adding or subtracting the points. I will try to do the save for each fighter...that seems easier. I really havent used the ranking system much...just decided to try it since I purchased tbcb2. I usually keep my own rankings. I hope a patch for this is in the works because the system seems to be much better than before.

[mh2365]

The new system is very solid but the pp thing is a problem. Hopefully come next month Andreas will be free to work on it a little bit.

I still would like to get the group 2 fixed to where you can revert it back to blank.

[JCWeb]

Just wanted to add to a prior post on this thread to confirm a recent experience (today actually) where two ranked fighters pp's were not automatically updated. What happened was while I was doing my manual update in the middle of a 6-bout card (two bouts to go) the game crashed, this after I hit the annoying "Show Bout Log" button (does this darn thing bug the heck out of any of the rest of you, by the way?) after I had accidentally auto-simmed a bout in my Uni I wanted to get more details on. When I restarted, I found the pps for the fighters in one of the two bouts were automatically saved, but for the second bout neither fighter's pp were updated. Both were established fighters in my Uni, and in fact both were fighters who were active at the time I converted to the new perf pts system with the patch. So, as it's very time consuming to constantly manually save the pp after every bout (about 10-12 mouse clicks for each boxer) I feel compelled to do so until OOTP puts out something to fix the darn bug.

[mh2365]

Maybe it would be easier to put a fighters pp in their biography after each fight? That way when you restart you could tell if it is updated or not. Might be an easier work around.

[lethal liberal]

Now that I have gotten used to saving the points after each match,it really isnt too bad. I like the new system,it isnt perfect but it gives you a pretty good set of rankings to go by. I have not encountered the problem that some have had..fighters who win getting negative points. So far,all of the winners have recieved points,while the loser has lost. I may have just jinxed myself..lol.

[lethal liberal]

You know that we have really become a lazy society when we start to complain about having to click the mouse a few times..lol.

[mh2365]

Originally Posted by lethal liberal

Now that I have gotten used to saving the points after each match,it really isnt too bad. I like the new system,it isnt perfect but it gives you a pretty good set of rankings to go by. I have not encountered the problem that some have had..fighters who win getting negative points. So far,all of the winners have recieved points,while the loser has lost. I may have just jinxed myself..lol.

I never seen negative but I did have an 8 ranked fighter beat a 97th ranked fighter and he got like 6 points.

[JCWeb]

while I have as been noted above religiously been manually saving the perf pts numbers on the fighter screen(s) after each and every bout, today a power shortage provided me with an opportunity to test out what is happening (this is with the 2.0.27 most recent patch for TB2 installed). I had run 5 of the 6 bouts on a fight card (and frustrationwise, was in the middle of round 14 of a 15-round title bout in bout #6) when the power went down. When it came back on, I checked and saw the first four bouts were saved and the perf pts adjusted. It was the 5th bout where the W-L and other stats were saved, but the perf pts were pre-fight, not post-fight. Of course, the 6th and final bout had to be redone.

Not sure how the experience would be different with the "Start Fight" versus the "Fight Card" menu, but it would be interesting to compare (perhaps another test some other time).

(By the way, for those interested, the fighters whose perf pts were not saved were well-established non-TC types, so no distinction there as to which fighters are affected by the non-save bug).

[Cap]

Originally Posted by mh2365

I never seen negative but I did have an 8 ranked fighter beat a 97th ranked fighter and he got like 6 points.

I saw one fighter get 0.01 points for a win, so I wouldn't be surprised to see -122.

Cap

[CONN CHRIS]

I think this may be just happening when using the Start Fight (single bout) option. I know that it does not happen for me during auto-scheduling and fight cards seem to be ok.


** Please note the system that you have if this is a problem for you **


Thank you

[JCWeb]

Chris, I don't use Autoscheduler for saved fights in my Uni but I have seen the problem arise from both the "Start Fight" and "Fight Card" menus. Since I now religiously do the manual save of PPs after every completed bout, I now see the problem only occasionally, at times when I either (1) forget to do the save and/or (2) suffer a temporary power outage when playing the game.

The info for my operating system is Windows XP and I am using the TB 2 game with the 2.0.27 patch.