Holy crap, I think I just found the greatest player of all-time..

Habsfan18 · 06-23-2016, 02:33 PM

*I'll start off by saying this player was NOT edited in any way, whatsoever.

Sorry for starting another thread, but I just HAD to share this with everyone. The wife and I are on holidays, so just for fun I created a fictional league that started in 1950 and set it to simulate to 2016, leaving automatic league evolution on, just to see where and how the league ends up. Just something I sometimes like to do for fun. Then glance over league history - look at dynasties, legends etc..

Anyways, I started with 24 clubs and tried to mimic real life baseball history by automatically adjusting league strategy, financial settings, league totals modifiers, and using accurate player creation modifiers based on the correct years. The only change I really made, was using the default/modern player origins right from the creation of the league.

So I set it to sim, and decided to stop it in 1996 just to see how the league is going - check out expansions and relocations, look at current records etc.. I decide to go to historical leaderboards, and something catches my eye. Tiburcio Suggia is the all-time leader in home runs with....1055!. I thought there's no way that could be right, but I went to his player profile..and low and behold..

7 Triple Crowns
14 MVP's (5x 2nd place in voting)
21 All-Star appearances
20 Silver Sluggers
3 WBA Championship Rings
3 WBA Championship MVP's
5 additional Playoff Series MVP's
53 Batter of the Month awards
64 Player of the Week awards

This is absolute insanity. At least compared to anything I've ever personally seen in OOTP. I swear, this player was NOT edited in any way.

He was also ridiculously reliable when it came to health. Barely missed any time in his entire career. His biggest injury was a sprained thumb that kept him out a week.

He HAD to have been on the juice..right? Never got caught - no suspensions at all in his history..but c'mon, look at those totals.

ashantewarrier · 06-23-2016, 02:37 PM

Must be the 'roids

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JcBoscan · 06-23-2016, 02:47 PM

Mercy.

Matt Arnold · 06-23-2016, 02:56 PM

72 HR with a .412 average as a 23-year old? Yeah, I guess that's alright...

Habsfan18 · 06-23-2016, 02:57 PM

I've never seen anything like it lol

It has to be assumed it was roids right? I mean, 20+ year career and was never caught, but 1,000 home runs is ridiculous.

Habsfan18 · 06-23-2016, 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

72 HR with a .412 average as a 23-year old? Yeah, I guess that's alright...

1.327 OPS. That is just ridiculous. Lol

koohead · 06-23-2016, 03:03 PM

and yet he didn't get 100% of the vote for HOF.

Habsfan18 · 06-23-2016, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koohead

and yet he didn't get 100% of the vote for HOF.

My guess is that a few of the voters wrote him off, doubting that he was clean.

Habsfan18 · 06-23-2016, 05:15 PM

Pretty sure I'm re-naming the MVP award, the Tiburcio Suggia award. Doesn't have a good ring to it, but with a legend like that it would be fitting.

dave1927p · 06-23-2016, 05:18 PM

his name is legendary in itself

Habsfan18 · 06-23-2016, 09:11 PM

I'm thinking of printing out his player page, just in case I ever lose the save file (hopefully not, but you never know). This is a once in a lifetime player, and no matter how many league histories I sim, not sure I'll ever see that level of excellence again.

What's everyone thinking? Legitimate greatness? Or steroids?

BeanballComin · 06-23-2016, 09:15 PM

Maybe he's an Easter Egg.

catcherjul · 06-23-2016, 10:04 PM

The only player in my league history that beats your player's war is HOF Brendan Bennett.

But what is impressive is the amount of All-Star presence and awards!! HR number too. I hope one day I'll have a player like yours. 60 seasons and still waiting for it

OakDragon · 06-23-2016, 10:17 PM

I'm guessing evolution added some offense, but still, that's awesome!

edit: I stand... er... confused. Nothing really strange in the rest of the leaders. Wow.

Habsfan18 · 06-23-2016, 10:26 PM

Not evolution. I only left that on for relocations and expansions.

And damn, that Bennett guy is a beast as well!

MizzouRah · 06-23-2016, 10:52 PM

1961... what an incredible season!!!

Habsfan18 · 06-24-2016, 12:44 AM

And to think I still have Suggia's 1959 Rookie of the Year card. Guess I'll put it in my OOTP valuable memorabilia folder.

Markus Heinsohn · 06-24-2016, 05:08 AM

Wow. That is certainly impressive and probably a combination of various rare circumstances. I suppose he was created with great ratings to begin with, but then got a few more talent boost (which are increasingly rare the better you already are) which turned him into that monster. Holy crap.

RchW · 06-24-2016, 07:41 AM

The only edit that would have been fun was to rename him Sluggia.

CMH · 06-24-2016, 07:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RchW

The only edit that would have been fun was to rename him Sluggia.

I nominate this as his nickname.

06-23-2016, 02:33 PM	#1
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,244	Holy crap, I think I just found the greatest player of all-time.. I'll start off by saying this player was NOT edited in any way, whatsoever. Sorry for starting another thread, but I just HAD to share this with everyone. The wife and I are on holidays, so just for fun I created a fictional league that started in 1950 and set it to simulate to 2016, leaving automatic league evolution on, just to see where and how the league ends up. Just something I sometimes like to do for fun. Then glance over league history - look at dynasties, legends etc.. Anyways, I started with 24 clubs and tried to mimic real life baseball history by automatically adjusting league strategy, financial settings, league totals modifiers, and using accurate player creation modifiers based on the correct years. The only change I really made, was using the default/modern player origins right from the creation of the league. So I set it to sim, and decided to stop it in 1996 just to see how the league is going - check out expansions and relocations, look at current records etc.. I decide to go to historical leaderboards, and something catches my eye. Tiburcio Suggia is the all-time leader in home runs with....1055!. I thought there's no way that could be right, but I went to his player profile..and low and behold.. 7 Triple Crowns 14 MVP's (5x 2nd place in voting) 21 All-Star appearances 20 Silver Sluggers 3 WBA Championship Rings 3 WBA Championship MVP's 5 additional Playoff Series MVP's 53 Batter of the Month awards 64 Player of the Week awards This is absolute insanity. At least compared to anything I've ever personally seen in OOTP. I swear, this player was NOT edited in any way. He was also ridiculously reliable when it came to health. Barely missed any time in his entire career. His biggest injury was a sprained thumb that kept him out a week. He HAD to have been on the juice..right? Never got caught - no suspensions at all in his history..but c'mon, look at those totals. Attached Images Last edited by Habsfan18; 06-24-2016 at 03:42 PM.*

06-23-2016, 02:37 PM	#2
ashantewarrier Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, NJ via Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,301 Blog Entries: 7	Must be the 'roids Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ "I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being." -Jackie Robinson, #42 Brooklyn Dodgers *"Hitting is better than sex."* - Reggie Jackson

06-23-2016, 03:03 PM	#7
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,195	and yet he didn't get 100% of the vote for HOF. __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;

06-23-2016, 05:18 PM	#10
dave1927p FHM Moderator Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Brantford, ON Posts: 2,896	his name is legendary in itself __________________ IN 1964 THE LEAFS WON THE STANLEY CUP :: IT'S ALSO THE YEAR THE CANADIAN FLAG WAS DESIGNED...coincidence?

06-23-2016, 10:04 PM	#13
catcherjul Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Montréal Posts: 311	The only player in my league history that beats your player's war is HOF Brendan Bennett. But what is impressive is the amount of All-Star presence and awards!! HR number too. I hope one day I'll have a player like yours. 60 seasons and still waiting for it Attached Images

06-23-2016, 02:47 PM	#3
JcBoscan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 65	Mercy.

06-23-2016, 02:56 PM	#4
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,539	72 HR with a .412 average as a 23-year old? Yeah, I guess that's alright...

06-23-2016, 02:57 PM	#5
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,244	I've never seen anything like it lol It has to be assumed it was roids right? I mean, 20+ year career and was never caught, but 1,000 home runs is ridiculous.

06-23-2016, 05:15 PM	#9
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,244	Pretty sure I'm re-naming the MVP award, the Tiburcio Suggia award. Doesn't have a good ring to it, but with a legend like that it would be fitting.

06-23-2016, 09:11 PM	#11
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,244	I'm thinking of printing out his player page, just in case I ever lose the save file (hopefully not, but you never know). This is a once in a lifetime player, and no matter how many league histories I sim, not sure I'll ever see that level of excellence again. What's everyone thinking? Legitimate greatness? Or steroids?

06-23-2016, 09:15 PM	#12
BeanballComin Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 162	Maybe he's an Easter Egg.

06-23-2016, 10:17 PM	#14
OakDragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: San Jose, CA USA Posts: 3,494	I'm guessing evolution added some offense, but still, that's awesome! edit: I stand... er... confused. Nothing really strange in the rest of the leaders. Wow. Last edited by OakDragon; 06-23-2016 at 10:18 PM.

06-23-2016, 10:26 PM	#15
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,244	Not evolution. I only left that on for relocations and expansions. And damn, that Bennett guy is a beast as well!

06-23-2016, 10:52 PM	#16
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,252	1961... what an incredible season!!!

06-24-2016, 12:44 AM	#17
Habsfan18 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Canada Posts: 2,244	And to think I still have Suggia's 1959 Rookie of the Year card. Guess I'll put it in my OOTP valuable memorabilia folder. Attached Images Last edited by Habsfan18; 06-24-2016 at 12:46 AM.

06-24-2016, 05:08 AM	#18
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,805	Wow. That is certainly impressive and probably a combination of various rare circumstances. I suppose he was created with great ratings to begin with, but then got a few more talent boost (which are increasingly rare the better you already are) which turned him into that monster. Holy crap. __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

06-24-2016, 07:41 AM	#19
RchW Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Toronto ON by way of Glasgow UK Posts: 15,629	The only edit that would have been fun was to rename him Sluggia. __________________ Cheers RichW If you’re looking for a good cause to donate money to please consider a Donation to Parkinson’s Canada. It may help me have a better future and if not me, someone else. Thanks. “Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition …There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.” Frank Wilhoit