Conine traded from Orioles to Marlins

BasicGuy · 09-01-2003, 03:40 PM

Conine traded from Orioles to Marlins
http://www.sportingnews.com/baseball...31/490382.html

Looks like the Marlins are trying to lock up that wildcard race in the NL....I hope they can make the playoffs

jaxmagicman · 09-01-2003, 07:51 PM

I agree with you Basic. I am happy Conine came back.

Skipaway · 09-01-2003, 10:55 PM

They gave up two prospects for one months of a $4.25mil .290/.338/.460 1B-3B-LF-RF, while they could have a whole year of a $2mil .282/.355/.487 1B-3B-LF-RF.

And they are gonna rework Conine's contract through 2005?!? He's really old. Isn't Derek Lee better, much younger, and about the same price? Or one Hollandsworth is not enough?

draven085 · 09-01-2003, 11:42 PM

I think Lee is arbitration eligibile after this season. That said, I still don't understand picking up Conine.

holyroller · 09-02-2003, 05:31 AM

Yup, the Marlins are definitely trying to win the wildcard. Unfortunately, they have no idea how to maximize their chances of doing so. Picking up Conine is a negative, not a positive, no matter what they gave up for him.

EagleEye_0 · 09-02-2003, 08:25 AM

They actually gave up a couple nice prospects. terrible deal for the Marlins.

jaxmagicman · 09-02-2003, 08:38 AM

This is going to sound like a joke, but it is important to have someone like Conine who understands the playoffs, and the push for the wild card. He has been an MVP of an allstar game, he has a world series ring, he knows how to win. He brings leadership other intangibles to his team. Marlins have Talent. But how many players on their roster have world series rings?

holyroller · 09-02-2003, 08:40 AM

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Originally posted by jaxmagicman
This is going to sound like a joke, but it is important to have someone like Conine who understands the playoffs, and the push for the wild card. He has been an MVP of an allstar game, he has a world series ring, he knows how to win. He brings leadership other intangibles to his team. Marlins have Talent. But how many players on their roster have world series rings?

You are right, that did sound like a joke.

draven085 · 09-02-2003, 08:41 AM

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Originally posted by holyroller
You are right, that did sound like a joke.

At least he qualified it first

jaxmagicman · 09-02-2003, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by holyroller
You are right, that did sound like a joke.

They have Gerald Williams, who knows what it is like to lose a world series.

LivnLegend · 09-02-2003, 09:35 AM

Quick trivia: How many players who appeared in the Marlins first ever opening day lineup are still active in the majors?

jaxmagicman · 09-02-2003, 09:48 AM

Without looking it up, I will say, just Jeff Conine, or it could be Conine and Sheffield.

EagleEye_0 · 09-02-2003, 09:51 AM

Sheff was not there during their expansion season. Conine is one, Benito Santiago is another. Im not sure about others.

jaxmagicman · 09-02-2003, 10:07 AM

Eagle Eye, Gary Sheffield was in Florida during their Expansion year, but he didn't start with the team. That year he started with San Diego, so I will say that Sheffield was not one of the correct answers. I had to go look and see when he came to the team.

Skipaway · 09-02-2003, 10:53 AM

I think EagleEye 0 got it. Since it's opening day lineup not opening day roster. Otherwise there might be some others. Chris Hammond? Trevor Hoffman? Dave Weathers?

jaxmagicman · 09-02-2003, 11:02 AM

So Conine and Santiago. Wow, Marlins need to stage a reunion.

fluharty · 09-02-2003, 11:17 AM

"Picking up Conine is a negative, not a positive, no matter what they gave up for him."

Why?

SoxWin · 09-02-2003, 11:28 AM

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Originally posted by jaxmagicman
This is going to sound like a joke, but it is important to have someone like Conine who understands the playoffs, and the push for the wild card. He has been an MVP of an allstar game, he has a world series ring, he knows how to win. He brings leadership other intangibles to his team. Marlins have Talent. But how many players on their roster have world series rings?

They could have brought in Doug Glanville but his greatness was probably unavailable.

ctorg · 09-02-2003, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by SoxWin
They could have brought in Doug Glanville but his greatness was probably unavailable.

Or maybe Ross Gload.

matskralc · 09-02-2003, 12:05 PM

Too bad the Yankees got to Sojo first.

09-01-2003, 03:40 PM	#1
BasicGuy Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: ND Posts: 478	Conine traded from Orioles to Marlins Conine traded from Orioles to Marlins http://www.sportingnews.com/baseball...31/490382.html Looks like the Marlins are trying to lock up that wildcard race in the NL....I hope they can make the playoffs

09-01-2003, 07:51 PM	#2
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	I agree with you Basic. I am happy Conine came back. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

09-01-2003, 10:55 PM	#3
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	They gave up two prospects for one months of a $4.25mil .290/.338/.460 1B-3B-LF-RF, while they could have a whole year of a $2mil .282/.355/.487 1B-3B-LF-RF. And they are gonna rework Conine's contract through 2005?!? He's really old. Isn't Derek Lee better, much younger, and about the same price? Or one Hollandsworth is not enough? __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

09-02-2003, 05:31 AM	#5
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	Yup, the Marlins are definitely trying to win the wildcard. Unfortunately, they have no idea how to maximize their chances of doing so. Picking up Conine is a negative, not a positive, no matter what they gave up for him. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

09-02-2003, 08:38 AM	#7
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	This is going to sound like a joke, but it is important to have someone like Conine who understands the playoffs, and the push for the wild card. He has been an MVP of an allstar game, he has a world series ring, he knows how to win. He brings leadership other intangibles to his team. Marlins have Talent. But how many players on their roster have world series rings? __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

09-01-2003, 11:42 PM	#4
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,074	I think Lee is arbitration eligibile after this season. That said, I still don't understand picking up Conine.

09-02-2003, 08:25 AM	#6
EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,426	They actually gave up a couple nice prospects. terrible deal for the Marlins.

09-02-2003, 09:35 AM	#11
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Quick trivia: How many players who appeared in the Marlins first ever opening day lineup are still active in the majors? __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

09-02-2003, 09:48 AM	#12
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Without looking it up, I will say, just Jeff Conine, or it could be Conine and Sheffield. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

09-02-2003, 09:51 AM	#13
EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,426	Sheff was not there during their expansion season. Conine is one, Benito Santiago is another. Im not sure about others.

09-02-2003, 10:07 AM	#14
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Eagle Eye, Gary Sheffield was in Florida during their Expansion year, but he didn't start with the team. That year he started with San Diego, so I will say that Sheffield was not one of the correct answers. I had to go look and see when he came to the team. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

09-02-2003, 10:53 AM	#15
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	I think EagleEye 0 got it. Since it's opening day lineup not opening day roster. Otherwise there might be some others. Chris Hammond? Trevor Hoffman? Dave Weathers? __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

09-02-2003, 11:02 AM	#16
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	So Conine and Santiago. Wow, Marlins need to stage a reunion. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

09-02-2003, 11:17 AM	#17
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	"Picking up Conine is a negative, not a positive, no matter what they gave up for him." Why?

09-02-2003, 12:05 PM	#20
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